NationStates Jolt Archive


Proposal: Committee Against Fascism

Arthuria-Elizabetia
24-12-2003, 22:56
Please take some time and look over my proposal "Committee Against Fascism"

I hope this can become a resolution, through your support.
25-12-2003, 00:32
Not through my support.
Letila
25-12-2003, 00:44
Fascism is junk.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
Soltak
25-12-2003, 00:51
Committee Against Fascism
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: The Furtherment of Democracy Strength: Strong Proposed by: Arthuria-Elizabetia
Description: RECOGNIZING the existence of fascist and semi-fascist nations in our world,

RECOGNIZING ALSO that fascism is a brutal and evil ideology,

DETERMINED to prevent the future growth of fascism,

LET IT BE RESOLVED to create a committee to prevent the further spread of fascism, and to promote the growth of democracy in existing fascist nations.

Approvals: 1 (Philberta)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 135 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Dec 27 2003

The Federation of Soltak has not approved this proposal. [Approve]


The Federation of Soltak refuses to support this proposal. The governing practicing of individual nations should be left up to those nations and is not for anyone else to decide or regulate.
Letila
25-12-2003, 01:03
How can you condone fascism? Are you fascist?

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
25-12-2003, 01:08
How can you condone fascism? Are you fascist?

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
What business of yours is it what another leader does in his or her nation?
Letila
25-12-2003, 01:42
We of Letila abhor fascism. We don't need a reason to oppose your actions. We are sending people to encourage your people to defect. They are well-armed. Remember that anarchists always have plenty of bombs.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
25-12-2003, 01:48
We are sending people to encourage your people to defect. They are well-armed. Remember that anarchists always have plenty of bombs.

Don't worry. Beeing a Dictator I have a nice supply of bombs myself. And other fun stuff. Poison gas, barb wire, psychos who love torturing anarchists(or anyone else).
Letila
25-12-2003, 02:21
Don't worry. Beeing a Dictator I have a nice supply of bombs myself.

Proving my point. For every bomb an anarchist throws, the state throws 100.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
25-12-2003, 03:16
Don't worry. Beeing a Dictator I have a nice supply of bombs myself.

Proving my point. For every bomb an anarchist throws, the state throws 100.
100? I won't go beyond 10 for every anarchist. Besides, I only start bombing if one of those anarchists starts bombing us first. I'm a benevolant dictator.
Letila
25-12-2003, 03:23
Most anarchists are like me and chat on how spread their ideas. Many don't even support the idea of a revolution and even if they do, more people die from state started wars and class system related deaths than from one revolution.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
25-12-2003, 03:26
Most anarchists are like me and chat on how spread their ideas. Many don't even support the idea of a revolution and even if they do, more people die from state started wars and class system related deaths than from one revolution.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
Yeah, the Russian and French revolutions hardlt killed anyone. :lol:
Letila
25-12-2003, 03:29
Neither was anarchist and the governments killed just as many people. Then you got the class system choking the unlucky.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
Soltak
25-12-2003, 16:47
[quote]Don't worry. Beeing a Dictator I have a nice supply of bombs myself.

Proving my point. For every bomb an anarchist throws, the state throws 100.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!quote]

I've found that most anarchists aren't worth the powder to blow them to hell. I gas a big lot of them no and again, but bombs cost too much.
The Nintendo Emerates
25-12-2003, 17:08
Fascism is a way of life, my way of life. By attempting to "wage war"(albeit in a small form), conflicts arrise(much like that of Vietnam, being a "war" against the spread of communism). Do not force your political system on me, and i will not force mine on you(atleast not until The Dubiously Evil Fascist States of the Nintendo Emerates take over your nation :twisted: :twisted: )
25-12-2003, 20:41
The UN is here to aid in world peace, not to dictate political ideology. I hate facism, but as a democrac I hold each nations right to choose thier own destiny.

In short I will definitly vote against this measure.
25-12-2003, 20:43
That should have read "I hold each nations right to choose thier own destiny sacred" sorry.
Soltak
25-12-2003, 20:45
The UN is here to aid in world peace, not to dictate political ideology. I hate facism, but as a democrac I hold each nations right to choose thier own destiny.

In short I will definitely vote against this measure.

I'm glad that this post was made. It demonstrates what I think many people have been trying to say: A true lover of democracy is willing to accept those ideologies with which they don't agree.

To stamp out fascism would be a bit fascist itself, don't you think?
Letila
25-12-2003, 20:48
To stamp out fascism would be a bit fascist itself, don't you think?

Just like how opposing racism is intolerant.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
Soltak
25-12-2003, 20:53
[quote]Just like how opposing racism is intolerant.[quote]

Ah, the racism defense. I'm glad someone finally pulled that card out of the deck. And what a surprise that it would be Letila.

Racism is the hatred of a person or group simply because of the way they look, act, etc.

Fascism is a government system and tool. It is not biased. Everyone is equally oppressed.

Next time, try to have a real argument and leave the race card in the deck.
Letila
25-12-2003, 20:59
Fascism is a government system and tool. It is not biased. Everyone is equally oppressed.

Except the government.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
Soltak
25-12-2003, 21:03
Except the government.


I think that can be said of any government system. And, since most here would rather not go anarchist, it's simply a fact of life that has to be dealt with.

And, on a side note dealing with anarchy, the UN is most certainly not an anarchical body. Why do you participate in policy debates and submit yourself to the will of the UN? It's a democracy, not exactly an anarchists vision of paradise. Though I suppose no credible government system really is.
25-12-2003, 21:11
Ageed Soltak. While I hold personal freedom dear, I also realize the personal freedom without responsibilty is an unworkable form of living.

Goverment sets down the guidlines for behavior in society. Whithout those rules your personal rights will die, as no one will respect them.
26-12-2003, 19:17
We of Letila abhor fascism. We don't need a reason to oppose your actions. We are sending people to encourage your people to defect. They are well-armed. Remember that anarchists always have plenty of bombs.

This, to me, sounds like the nation of Letila is a "Terroist Sponsoring Nation" and, as such, should be banned from the Community of civil Nations that is the UN and isolated from any foreign trade or diplomatic relations with any Member nation of the UN.
26-12-2003, 19:20
Good luck passing this proposal. I favor it, but you are going to recieve a lot of opposition.
26-12-2003, 19:50
Hmmm... What were you saying about dropping 10 bombs on anarchists nations? isn't that a bit unprovoked? wow. Talk about hypocricy.

p.s.
http://www.laoghaire.net/anarchy.jpg
Letila
26-12-2003, 20:02
Great pic!

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.
The state only exists to serve itself.
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic
of attractive women.
26-12-2003, 20:42
The state only exists to serve itself.

That is so true, the institutional state exist to serve the organic state it is made of, by, and for and ONLY that organic state. If the institutional state serves the interest of any other intity besides that of the organic state it was created to serve it becomes a cancer upon that organic state and should be removed befor it kills its host.
Arthuria-Elizabetia
27-12-2003, 06:49
Well, I am glad to have come back from the Christmas break and see such lively discussion.

I do abhor fascism, but this proposal was more of an experiment for me. I was interested to see whether the ideal of full politicial freedom or the ideal of moral protection would triumph, and it seems political freedom (at least in an idealistic sense) has won out.

Voltaire said something about the fact that while you don't always agree with what someone is doing, you should fight for their right to do so. I have always agreed with that statement, and I am actually quite pleased to see things working out this way.

This was one of those things where either answer was right. Thanks for the lively debate! Next time I hope to me a more active participant!