A UN proposal concerning drug commercials
I have made a proposal to teh UN that involves teh illegalization of drug commercials (not drugs) please tell me what you think, and if you support the proposal, feel free to approve it, if you're a UN delegate
A Proposal on Drug Commericals
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.
Category: Moral Decency Strength: Mild Proposed by: Zachnia
Description: Nowadays, there is much controversy on whether drugs should be made legal or not, and, remembering that the legalization, or illegalization, or drug laws should be left up to the nation itself, I propose that all UN member nations make commercials that depict drugs in a positive, and/or inticing manner, be banned from all televisions, radios, magazines, internet advertisements, or news papers. Drugs being defined as a substance that is widely taken for only recreation, and is intoxicating, or has harmful side effects.
Balligomingo
24-12-2003, 02:59
Would this "ban" include all drugs like: aspirin, sinus medication, coffee, tea, & beer?
coffe tea and beer, maybe, but I don't think sinus medication is taken recreationally too often
Balligomingo
24-12-2003, 03:02
That's what I'm getting at. Where is the word "recreational" in your proposal?
I believe it says something on the last line.
Balligomingo
24-12-2003, 03:17
Sorry got me there.
Might help if you added recreational as an descriptor. It is a real challenge to write resolutions clearly enough that almost everyone understands what you mean. (as a side note: like your flag)
Well, I guess the thought was I'd just say "drugs" and then define what drugs were at the end.
OCC: Glad you like my flag, I really like the photo too. I got it on google (I love that site)
How about no.
What gets advertised on TV is a private matter between the advertiser and the TV station. If people don't like it--guess what--they're free to not watch TV.
Oh don't get me started on the evils of capitalism, you supporter of the inhuman class system.
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Well...
what if science shows that the drug that is sometimes taken recreationally has a valid use in medicine or such? Take a look at most prescription painkillers, or even some asthma inhalers can get you high. If the commercial focused on what it was meant to be used for, could it still be shown?
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How about no.
What gets advertised on TV is a private matter between the advertiser and the TV station. If people don't like it--guess what--they're free to not watch TV.
Well, yes, but, you see, the media has this nasty habit of making things seem better than they really are.
Too true.
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Freedom of speech? What's that?
How about no.
What gets advertised on TV is a private matter between the advertiser and the TV station. If people don't like it--guess what--they're free to not watch TV.
Well, yes, but, you see, the media has this nasty habit of making things seem better than they really are.
The Federation feels that its best to leave the decision making up to the individual citizen. If they're such mental midgets that they believe everything they see on TV, I don't think a little reefer is going to hurt them much.
As a side note: The Federation still does not support the legalization of drugs, but feels that this is an issue of free speech and commercialization, not legalization.
Why ban free speech and harm buisness? I say no.
Thakan Dar
25-12-2003, 21:25
This government officially stands opposed to the proposed resolution.
S. Llaneth il'Korr, Director of the Exterior
Dominion of Thakan Dar
The proposal holds water though. You must keep in mind that television is a very powerfull medium these days. I personally think that the decision should be left up to the individual citizen, however, you can't just say "freedom of speech" and expect to get your point accross. Freedom of speech comes with responsibility. There are restrictions on television when it comes to language, nudity, and violence...so why not restrict drug commercials too? It's simply a matter of who your target audience is. If you air a drug commercial during an after school special called "Just Say No", then there is a level of extreme hypocrisy there. I hope that this issue is raised again in the future...it makes an interesting debate topic.
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Yes, but some people love social classes so much, they will fight to protect them.
I'm Confused.
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pehaps you just don't know what you're talking about.
i hate capitalism.
That's great.
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i'm still not sure what you were getting at, but whatever.
Why don't you just ban all commercials for anything recreational, or even ban all commercials, because they may be deceptive. This proposal doesn't make too much sense.
Ban commercials Down with capitalism!
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Nah, we should only ban all commercials that try to make their products look good or appealing in any way. Those corporations need to learn that consumers make the decisions and stop trying to tell the people what to like and purchase. Only commercials that specifically include the line "This product is total crud," should be allowed.
...you can't just say "freedom of speech" and expect to get your point accross.
I know, I know, it's a bit much these days to expect "freedom of speech" to mean "freedom of speech."
It's simply a matter of who your target audience is. If you air a drug commercial during an after school special called "Just Say No", then there is a level of extreme hypocrisy there.
Firstly, this proposal isn't about making sure that the audience is appropriate for the ad, it just flatly bans them. Secondly, this proposal is NOT about banning these ads on television -- it bans them on all significant mediums ("televisions, radios, magazines, internet advertisements, or news papers"). The sole concern is here is obviously not television, so debate should not center on it.
Collaboration
26-12-2003, 03:03
There should be some sort of line between what is illegal and what is merely distasteful. Drug ads are the latter.
Freedom of speech comes with responsibility. There are restrictions on television when it comes to language, nudity, and violence...so why not restrict drug commercials too?
Is/ought fallacy. What is isn't necessarily what should be.
Well, I believe myself that, yes whether or not people do drugs should be left up to the citizen (although I made a point of not letting the actual il/lagalization of drugs get into the matter) However, in order to make the right decision for themselves, citizens need an unbiased opinion. However, they have these commercials that theyre seeing that it morphing their opinion, and if what they see of drugs is good, then they'll think it's a fine and dandy thing. The citizens have a right to an unbiased opinion.
There isn't really a drug industry in Letila. It really works by some guy sharing the drugs he's grown with the community, perhaps in exchange for some seeds to grow them with or cool pottery or something.
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of attractive women.
No, they don't. If they have a right to it, that means that somebody has to provide it to them on demand--regardless of whether or not they want to. That's called "slavery", and it's bad, mmmkay?
Anyway, even if there was such a right (there isn't), it doesn't preclude allowing biased opinions (isn't that redundant?) as well.
There isn't really a drug industry in Letila. It really works by some guy sharing the drugs he's grown with the community, perhaps in exchange for some seeds to grow them with or cool pottery or something.
Explain to me how that's not an industry...
Explain to me how that's not an industry...
Ok, so it has everything but the CEO and oppressed wageslaves.
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of attractive women.
However, in order to make the right decision for themselves, citizens need an unbiased opinion. However, they have these commercials that theyre seeing that it morphing their opinion, and if what they see of drugs is good, then they'll think it's a fine and dandy thing. The citizens have a right to an unbiased opinion.
Yeah. That's where the concept of "freedom of speech" came from. If the government controls what people can or cannot say, there is no guarantee that what needs to be heard is being heard. I also notice that you're not making a proposal against brainwashing, but rather only against the brainwashing that you disagree with.
So, just so we have the situation entirely clear: We're eliminating one side of an argument to make sure that people hear an unbiased opinion?
The Allied States of Saeder Krupp believe this is a poor proposal. "Happy" drugs are regularly distributed to the citizens, to encourage them to enjoy their jobs and lives. Other mood-altering substances are legal, sold, and taxed. To deny advertisement to these products would be a crippling blow to the people of the Allied States of Saeder Krupp.