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I submitted a proposal to the Un. So please look at my proposal and if you want my endorsement than back me in my proposal and my endorsement is yours.

:shock: I don't think you should continue your battle against dictatorships. Some of they are actually powerful and if you anger them, your nation will be a heap of ashes.

Wrong forum genius. UN forum = UN related posts!

Wrong forum genius. UN forum = UN related posts!
But it is the right forum he submitted a message about a UN proposal Genius

Dictators don't have to answer to anyone. What makes you think you can dictate what you want to them?

Like me.

I have just submitted a proposal and has one approval for the "Furtherment of Democracy". So please support it. It's called Furtherment of Democracy

This is a treacherous proposal. My country is a dictatorship, and I am quite pleased with the way things are going. You would be playing with fire.

I agree with Rebeland, i feel that the control of dictatorships would be not only dangerous but foolhardy, you would only anger the more powerful ones.

Dictatorships have never been good for nations! So I think dictators out Democracy in!

Dictatorships have never been good for nations! So I think dictators out Democracy in!

To put this quite simply; prove it.

Our dictatorship works pretty well, our people are happy, our Civil rights are ‘Superb’ and we have no crime. Our Queen is constantly working to better our nation and the lives of our people and it seems to be working.

The majority of our population want her in power and who are we to argue with them.

“Who said that democracy works? It just takes longer.”

Desdemona,
UN representative for The Black New World.

:shock: I don't think you should continue your battle against dictatorships. Some of they are actually powerful and if you anger them, your nation will be a heap of ashes.

Hmm, I have to say I agree with you.

Communist, Dictatorship, and Police states are abundant. There is little if no political freedom.

You imply that this is a bad thing.

I propose we help these nations have a turnabout and switch to democracy.

Why?

We should further the word of Democracy, thru issues that push the need for democracy.

Again, why?

It seems to me that you think Democracy is a good thing and it is right for your people but you have to remember that not all countries are the same. Just because it works for your people dosn't mean it will work for mine.

Desdemona,
UN representative for The Black New World.

My nation and I agree 100% with the fact that dictatorships should be removed from every nation of this planet. The Democratic Republic Of Studium recognize and acknowledge the great threat dictatorships may be if we try and oppose them but as a democratic country I feel it is our duty to but everything we have on the line to save those oppressed by evil dictators. In my seperate post concerning a new South Pacific UN delegate I tackle the issue of evil and propose a total eradication of it. If you endorse me, I may hopefully become the new South Pacific UN delegate and therefore will be able to have more of an impact on things that really matter. In the long term, together we may one day restore Earth to the peaceful, beautiful place it once was, and allow all to freely enjoy this planet without fear of oppression because of race, religion, creed, sex, beliefs from any dictator or dictatorship. Let us come together and win the war against evil.

In hope,
President Pitt
The Democratic Republic Of Studium

You can't tell people how to run their country, and also some mods, delegates and a lot of u.n members will vote this out, and political freedoms activists

End of dictatorship?
As if it would ever happen :roll:

My people refer to me as a benevolent dictator which I'm proud of. They have excellent civil rights and my economy is always on the rise. My nation might need one constant ruler.

Perhaps a better phrasing would have been the dismantling of tyrannies, which are in all cases dictatorships, aristocracies, and even democracies gone bad.

A properly run dictatorship, respectful of its citizenry and looking out for their best interests, is no worse than a democracy in the large scale view of things.

The word "dictator" indicates very plainly what it is. The 'ruler' is dictating to its people what to do and how to do it. People should not be told what to do. They have the right to do as they wish and how they wish. They also have right to decide who runs the nation. Dictatorships are established with only one person in mind - the leader. Dictators run their countries in order to get rich and to comfort themselves by abusing the power and authority entrusted in them - however in dictatorships this power and authority is not often entrusted in the leader; more often 'taken' by the dictators or 'given' by the citizens in fear of what would happen if they did not. I ask you all: Would you be happy if I came into your home and took over? Would you be happy if I took your property and sold it in order for me to build luxorious palaces which you can only dream of? Would you be happy if I told you what to do every second of the day and exactly how to do it? And would you be happy if I shot a member of your family or tortured you every time you expressed a dislike to my ways or tried to replace me with somebody else? This is what a dictatorship is and this is exactly what we need to end.

I will disagree completely with this purposal, I've seen some radical left-wing purposals but this takes the cake. Your talking about obliterating an entire political system from a politic simulation game. Really you can't do that we need a full range of nations in this game.

Firstly, each nation (even in the real world) is governed in a different fashion. For some people, they might need, enjoy and even *GASP* prosper under a dictatorship. For others it may be a monarchy governed by a single family because God said so. For still more it may be a representative democracy or a total democracy (both are vastly different and for those in the US who don't know we live in a Representative Democracy)

The simple fact of the matter is this: who are you to tell someone they can't be a dictator? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I abhor dictatorships, both IC and OOC, probably because I'm anarchist, once again both IC and OOC. As such, I really don't see anything good about them. A UN proposal probably won't be all that effective, considering that you can just leave the UN if it's about to pass. Still, it will keep the dictatorships out.

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I ask you all: Would you be happy if I came into your home and took over? Would you be happy if I took your property and sold it in order for me to build luxorious palaces which you can only dream of? Would you be happy if I told you what to do every second of the day and exactly how to do it? And would you be happy if I shot a member of your family or tortured you every time you expressed a dislike to my ways or tried to replace me with somebody else?

No I wouldn't, but I would like to be the one doing that. :D
I think that we should let dictatorship remain, it is one of the reasons why so many people like this game, because you can't do it in real life, well, you can, but... you know... I mean, c'mon, where's the fun if you can't shoot those damn soccer moms? :twisted: I say screw that proposal. :p

The word "dictator" indicates very plainly what it is. The 'ruler' is dictating to its people what to do and how to do it.
That’s what governments do.


People should not be told what to do. They have the right to do as they wish and how they wish.
No they don’t that’s why most nations have laws.


They also have right to decide who runs the nation.
I think you mean they should have the right to decide who runs the nation. Why would that be exactly?

Dictatorships are established with only one person in mind - the leader. Dictators run their countries in order to get rich and to comfort themselves by abusing the power and authority entrusted in them
And elected leaders don’t? Strangely enough some dictators (like our Queen) do work for the good of the people.

- however in dictatorships this power and authority is not often entrusted in the leader; more often 'taken' by the dictators or 'given' by the citizens in fear of what would happen if they did not.
If it is given out of fear it is still given. Our people support our Queen because they fear chaos and loss of civil rights if she goes out of power.


I ask you all: Would you be happy if I came into your home and took over? Would you be happy if I took your property and sold it in order for me to build luxorious palaces which you can only dream of?
This does not necessarily happen in dictatorships.

Would you be happy if I told you what to do every second of the day and exactly how to do it?
This does not necessarily happen in dictatorships. Like a democratically elected government we place guidelines on how to live.

And would you be happy if I shot a member of your family or tortured you every time you expressed a dislike to my ways or tried to replace me with somebody else?
Once again; this does not necessarily happen in dictatorships. You will notice that my civil rights are ‘Superb’ and yours are ‘Good’.


This is what a dictatorship is and this is exactly what we need to end.
That is what you think a dictatorship is, although it may be true for some dictatorships it is definitely not true for all.

To sum up, your argument was largely based on assumptions and therefore doesn’t apply to all dictatorships.

Desdemona,
UN representative for The Black New World.

My nation and I agree 100% with the fact that dictatorships should be removed from every nation of this planet.
My people don’t.

The Democratic Republic Of Studium recognize and acknowledge the great threat dictatorships may be if we try and oppose them but as a democratic country I feel it is our duty to but everything we have on the line to save those oppressed by evil dictators.
Evil is a relative term. I assume you mean those dictators that harm the people of their nation, not all dictators do that.

In my seperate post concerning a new South Pacific UN delegate I tackle the issue of evil and propose a total eradication of it.
I believe it is impossible to eradicate evil because while you may see dictators as evil, they may think the same of you. Evil is a relative term.

If you endorse me, I may hopefully become the new South Pacific UN delegate and therefore will be able to have more of an impact on things that really matter.
I don’t quite see how this is relevant, perhaps because I am not in the south pacific.

In the long term, together we may one day restore Earth to the peaceful, beautiful place it once was, Some UN nations don’t exist on earth. [/quote]

and allow all to freely enjoy this planet without fear of oppression because of race, religion, creed, sex, beliefs from any dictator or dictatorship. Like in my nation for example.

Desdemona,
UN representative for The Black New World.

The word "dictator" indicates very plainly what it is. The 'ruler' is dictating to its people what to do and how to do it.
That’s what governments do.


People should not be told what to do. They have the right to do as they wish and how they wish.
Yes they should be told what to do. And no, they do not. That’s what they have me for.


They also have right to decide who runs the nation.
No, they don't. I made that clear in my speech to them.

Dictatorships are established with only one person in mind - the leader. Dictators run their countries in order to get rich and to comfort themselves by abusing the power and authority entrusted in them
No. I was born rich. (IC anyway) And I don't abuse my power. Everytime I lock someone away or have someone executed, I'm just doing my job. (And then I sell the video tapes :twisted: )

- however in dictatorships this power and authority is not often entrusted in the leader; more often 'taken' by the dictators or 'given' by the citizens in fear of what would happen if they did not.
Beeing a King, I was born into power. I did not just take it.


I ask you all: Would you be happy if I came into your home and took over? Would you be happy if I took your property and sold it in order for me to build luxorious palaces which you can only dream of?
Why don't you try and find out. :lol:

Would you be happy if I told you what to do every second of the day and exactly how to do it?
My people are happy. Feel free to ask them. *Royal Guardsmen escort former terrorist leader G.W. Bush to the microphone*
Once upon a time I was deluded and thought God wanted me to remove our Gloriouse Ruler. And that He wanted me to plunge this country into the Evils that come without our Gloriouse Ruler. But after a few years of enlighightening torture I came to see the errors of my ways and the Evil that comes from Christianity and what some morons call freedom. I am so happy now that I've finally seen the light. May Odin allow our Gloriouse Ruler to rule us eternaly. Now, if you'll excuse me. It's time for my daily whipping.

And would you be happy if I shot a member of your family or tortured you every time you expressed a dislike to my ways or tried to replace me with somebody else?
Only if you did it after I told you to do so.


This is what a dictatorship is and this is exactly what we need to end.
And who gave you the right to end anything outside of your own little f*cked up nation?

Aren't we all dictatorships? After all, we all decide on issues wthout consulting any elected body. There is no judiciary to say whether our actions are legal. If someone decides on an issue, that decision is the law and there is no debate. Why should it matter whether people have the right to vote, if I'm the only one who makes decisions in my country, and I know that no matter what I do, I cannot be thrown out of office.

John Smith
"Elected" President
Germany and France

Furtherment of Democracy

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: The Furtherment of Democracy
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: The Golden Simatar

Description: Communist, Dictatorship, and Police states are abundant. There is little if no political freedom. I propose we help these nations have a turnabout and switch to democracy. We should further the word of Democracy, thru issues that push the need for democracy.

Approvals: 4 (Dovaan, The Basilicus, Aamerricaaa, Monstranian)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 132 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Tue Dec 23 2003

We have no objection to this proposal. However, how are we going to "help these nations...switch to democracy"? Hopefully not by military action.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Founder of the DU Region