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Ban Santa! - Help to approve this proposal!

16-12-2003, 16:35
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Ban Santa! A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice Strength: Significant Proposed by: Galuau

Description: It has been noticed that Santa is not distributing christmas presents fairly, poor and 3rd world children are not recieving the adequate number of gifts for their needs.
Besides, the actual Santa's image, the one we see in all the magazines, tv's, advertising... was created by a soda pop company called KaKa-Kola and can not be accepted as a cultural icon, because it does not represent culture, only marketing.
Because of this, and because he's really old and tired and he has a really 'strange' behaviour towards children, Santa should be banned and allowed to be retired to have more time to sip his KaKa on a red villa in South Patagonia.

G'day to you all! :-*
16-12-2003, 18:55
Labour rights activists in my country have informed me that said "Santa Claus" is engaging in unfair labour practices with Elf Union Local Santa's Workshop, and Reindeer Union Local North Pole. In fact, we admitted a refugee named "Rudolph" last year on grounds of political asylum. He informed us that elves and reindeer are not paid living wages, and Santa engages in unionbusting activities.

The suggestion has also been raised that this whole "present distribution" scheme is actually a money laundering front for an extensive drug trafficking plot which possibly funds terrorism.

Londana is concerned about these activities, and hopes that the UN will investigate these charges.
16-12-2003, 20:26
Santa Claus 'friend' of creatures from outer space!

"Santa Claus"´s bank accounts are beeing investigated, recently rumours about his implication in the production of a new drug have been confirmed , it's the BLACK DOGSPEED EMPEROR (wich is available in tablets, ground leaf ashes and canned, better watch for expiration and inspiration date!) wich takes you in a 11 month oblivion sleep, and it can be easely mixed in drinks witout altering its flavours. The factory in the Galuau's North Pole has been shut down, and all forced labour prisioners released.

Therefore it's impossible to let this old pervert (Facts proved in Galuau's main courts: he's been sleeping with aliens in their beds, without their consent and flying them to NoverminLand, wich is ou neighbour, where they play tennis all day long!) to fly around our nomad territories, so we are building a new recreational space called "Santanas Nunhouse" , where he can play as he wishes...

We are looking for a place to build it, republics, countries, territories open to this project only have to call any of our citizens. We will build it with our materials, work force, no charges for the countries receiving this project.

We are also launching a countest to find 12 other charachters that will turn christmas in a real loving fun spicy season, the most irreverent, original, imaginative creations will be free to go wherever they want, do what they want, except alien molesting rituals (It's not allowed in Galuau!) to make your christmas a joyfull, sweet tasting (sugar free), stormy as you always and ever wished.
Scream if you are a candidate!
Patoxia
16-12-2003, 20:37
OOC:
RL South Africa is already working on this issue (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3307695.stm), so it's a valid UN issue. strangely... :wink:

Edit: some text from the article:

"'Disillusioned youth'

The ASA took action after journalist Andrew October from Cape Town made a complaint.

He said the Post Office's ad encouraged "a falsehood that could break the fragile spirits of the already disillusioned youth of South Africa".

Unless the Post Office was willing to give all the children who wrote to the address the presents they wished for, the ad should be banned, he added.

The ASA agreed with Mr October, and also noted that an additional aspect of the Father Christmas myth was the belief that only good children got presents on Christmas Day.

Any child who wrote to the address, but did not receive the presents they wished for, may feel they were being punished for naughtiness, the ASA found.

This could prove "extremely upsetting" for them, it added."

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3307695.stm

Edit Mk II:
England is working on it too: Vicar tells children Santa is dead (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2562109.stm)

Edit Mk III: Yeah, Austria as well (carols at least): "This is psychological terror for shop workers." (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3291889.stm)
16-12-2003, 21:09
:shock: of course it's a valid issue UN! 8) We need your vote... :wink: or not :(
16-12-2003, 21:10
:shock: of course it's a valid issue UN! 8) We need your vote... :wink: or not :( ...
17-12-2003, 01:31
Oh great, now we have anti-Santa d!ckheads. When will the putrid, crazy, maniacal actions of the incompetent and dangerous left stop?

Sounds like Islam is the religion for you party-poopers. Stop trying to destroy Western culture, you disgraceful scumbags.
States of Stephenson
17-12-2003, 02:51
The UN does not have this type of power. I have yet to see a government who can ban something that is not real. Please, aren't there more important issues for the UN to deal with?
17-12-2003, 04:27
Where did Santa get all those elves, I wonder. Since Santa is a jolly old elf, as is his wife Mrs. Claus, it makes sense that the elves are all his children. How else could he force them to work without pay? Child abuse is a grave charge, but Kris Kringle (just one K away from a certain white supremacist group we all know, the Aryan Nation) is definitely G-U-I-L-T-Y to the MAX, boyeee!
United Typos
17-12-2003, 05:19
santa isnt an elf -.^ besides, there are too many versions of santa claus lore..

a resolution to instead ban ridiculuous resolutions would be more useful -.-
Calembel
17-12-2003, 05:21
*pulls out a notebook and starts writing down names for Santa's Naughty list*
Carlemnaria
17-12-2003, 05:44
the mind boggles at the implications of implimentation though the motivation and intention certainly has our entire sympathies. and 'western''civilization' which is an oxymoron if there ever was one, can bend over and kiss whatever portions of its own anatomy it can reach in the proccess.
there is of course a great deal positive to recomend the santa myth as well and it is not our intention to be one way about these things, but the problems pointed out in the world the mundanes of earth increasingly live in are all too very very real.

a santa who kept getting fatter as chimneys kept getting skinnier must surely have begged the credibility of even the youngst and must gullable of children, however much we might all at any age desire such fulfilment of our dreams and wishes, and taxed their parent's dialectic acumen to super human proportions.

it is well to make the point that hope is always possible, but it is a terrible thing to inductively demonstrate unneccessarily its so often for so many appearant futility.

we won't endorse an outright ban (or recomend doing so) as we seldom see bans as any more effective a solution to most problems as wishing on a santa for them to go away. but we certainly prefer and encourage real people and creatures of good will to celibrate the season in genuine affection and well wishes toward each other without the need for such flimsy and fallable premis and pretense.

the stars do shine magicly crisp and cold on a winter solstice night, and people bringing each other good cheer, comfort and closeness at such times, require neigher anthropomorphised alligory nor monaterist feeding frienzy, let alone a such a bewildiringly self contradictory symbol.

it perhaps sufficeth to say:

belief that something nontangable wishes us well does not require that historical myths of the supernatural be narrowed to any one single source. nor one of such vested origen.

its fun to have stories like that
and we have no wish to diminish such fun
rather to protect sense of wonder by encouraging
far more robust compelling mythologies
more readily and easily suspending of disbelief

=^^=
.../\...
Oppressed Possums
17-12-2003, 05:49
You shouldn't have to ban Santa unless the children are perfect and completely innocent only then would they not fall onto the "naughty" list.
Carlemnaria
17-12-2003, 06:23
You shouldn't have to ban Santa unless the children are perfect and completely innocent only then would they not fall onto the "naughty" list.
not so by any means
there being but one true evil
and that being to knowingly cause avoidable harm (though PREMEDITATED ignorance is no excuse either)

=^^=
.../\...
Oppressed Possums
17-12-2003, 06:26
So just because you don't like doesn't make it automatically "evil"

He's just misunderstood.
17-12-2003, 06:27
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17-12-2003, 06:34
I don't understand why people aren't taking this resolution seriously. These are SERIOUS CHARGES against Mr. Claus. Drug trafficking. Funding terrorism. Unfair labour practices.

Londana, for one, will not tolerate such activities, and urges other countries to investigate the issues and support this proposal.
Santin
17-12-2003, 06:59
All my other disagreements with this proposal aside, you got the wrong category. Social Justice increases taxes on the wealthy and the like to decrease the wage gap. Does banning Santa have anything to do with the gap between the rich and the poor? Nooo. This proposal falls under Moral Decency.
17-12-2003, 07:09
Does banning Santa have anything to do with the gap between the rich and the poor?

1. Santa engages in unfair labour practices. By banning him, you will be assisting the cause for unionization in reindeer and elf workplaces everywhere. This will help reduce the gap between the rich and the poor.

2. Santa uses his 'present-distribution' scheme as a money-laundering front for an extensive drug trafficking plot. It is a well-known fact that economically disadvantaged persons are disproportionate users of recreational drugs, and by cracking down on this unregulated industry, you will be helping their plight.

This resolution has EVERYTHING to do with social justice.
United Typos
17-12-2003, 07:16
.. he lives in the north pole -.- people who dont want him should just try to catch him, arrest him for illegal entry and deport him -.- i for one would grant him a visa into my kingdom -.-
States of Stephenson
17-12-2003, 07:38
In response to the international incident regarding the alleged labor practices of Santa Claus, the States of Stephenson, by royal decree, grant the individual known as Santa Claus political assylum where he will sin no more. We will move his operation from the North Pole and he shall be subject to the labor laws of the States of Stephenson. In the meantime until he reaches our borders, he shall be regaurded as an ambassador of His Majesty's Government with diplomatic immunity.

We hope this solves the problem. :D

His Royal Highness Bradley I of the States of Stephenson
United Typos
17-12-2003, 07:41
... but he pays the elves -.- and he pays the reindeer -.- probably with some sort of happy drug -.- considering how his reindeer get high, and his elves are always happy and jolly :)

and besides, whose to say he's violating the labor laws of the North Pole -.- does your country envelop the north pole? is the north pole even part of the UN -.-
17-12-2003, 08:26
we need santa to distract the people from the real truth, that the corporate holiday is king!!
United Typos
17-12-2003, 08:49
besides, if you ban santa, some other figure would probably come to replace him.. -.- you might as well just bunbun santa -.-
17-12-2003, 12:06
Does banning Santa have anything to do with the gap between the rich and the poor?

1. Santa engages in unfair labour practices. By banning him, you will be assisting the cause for unionization in reindeer and elf workplaces everywhere. This will help reduce the gap between the rich and the poor.

2. Santa uses his 'present-distribution' scheme as a money-laundering front for an extensive drug trafficking plot. It is a well-known fact that economically disadvantaged persons are disproportionate users of recreational drugs, and by cracking down on this unregulated industry, you will be helping their plight.

This resolution has EVERYTHING to do with social justice.

Unions destroy economies, cause public disturbances and are a thing which needs to be discouraged. Unionization is advocating annoyance. Unionization is an advocacy of destroying the economy. Unionization is an advocacy of blackmail. Unions are a blight on the earth and people would be all the better without them.
United Typos
17-12-2003, 14:00
If Santa is going to be banned, why not ban the boogie man? The monsters under the beds and the closets? They must be in cahoots with lightbulb manufacturers! -.- The easter rabbit? What if you step on an egg and make a mess out of your shoe and the ground and wherever, is that demoralizing and littering? the sandman? does he not commit breaking and entering, application of unknown substances that makes one sleepy and vulnerable? the tooth fairy .. who likes going to a child's room, gets close enough to children to touch pull up their heads and get a tooth from under the pillow? the fairy god mother for choking the rent-a-car industry, the shoe making business, and inhumane treatment of animals and produce? -.^ it's ridiculous to have to vote on such an issue -.- it uses up time otherwise usable for more significant and sensible issues -.-
17-12-2003, 22:09
IMPORTANT!
WANTED!
SANTA CLAUS*, guilty of introducing new drugs to GALUAU!
Guilty for the use of slave labour.
Guilty of financing terrorism against innocent countries.
Accused of sleeping with aliens.
Accused of instigating intollerance and apathy.
*
**
/ \
/ \
^O-O^
. V
'U'U'

Portrait made by an alien that slept with him last week!

Seen monday flying over Galuau's
REWARD: 490000000 rien de riens

Contact any citizen of Galuau!
17-12-2003, 22:10
IMPORTANT!
WANTED!
SANTA CLAUS*, guilty of introducing new drugs to GALUAU!
Guilty for the use of slave labour.
Guilty of financing terrorism against innocent countries.
Accused of sleeping with aliens.
Accused of instigating intollerance and apathy.
*
**
/ \
/ \
^O-O^
. V
'U'U'

Portrait made by an alien that slept with him last week!

Seen monday flying over Galuau's
REWARD: 490000000 rien de riens

Contact any citizen of Galuau!
United Typos
18-12-2003, 00:56
... you're ridiculous -.-
18-12-2003, 16:37
You're aware of this, now you don't have an excuse to not face the truth.