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It's great, trust me! Hippos... are... quite... large! C'mon, it'll be fun, I promise you...

Seriously.

You'd think most of these people have never seen a hippo before.

They are like the biggest things ever.

Really big, man.

Maybe they are confusing hippos with hedgehogs, because I've seen a hedgehog before and, believe you-me, that little thing was nowhere near the size of a hippo.

I mean, sure, if you fling a hedgehog at a sheep hard enough, it will stick, but that doesn't mean hedgehogs are big, am I right?

I personally find it quite sizeist about hippos being large. I mean, they can't help the way they are. so why the hell should we start making awareness days about them. :x

Pitty on you all!
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Fools! :!:

I personally find it quite sizeist about hippos being large. I mean, they can't help the way they are. so why the hell should we start making awareness days about them. :x

Pitty on you all!
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Fools! :!:

why have a bill about hippos? shouldn't the u.n. concentrate it's efforts on world peace, human rights, healt care, etc.? I think the whole idea is stupid. we need to get back on track.

Sincerely,
Zorro

The bill isn't just about hippos. Read past the title, man.

It is also about other endangered species.

Like hens.

Hens cluck.

Yes, hens may cluck Architeuthis, but they cluck in Evil, devil-inspired ways. If a hen ever starts to cluck at you, get an exorcism.

I see no reason anyone should vote against the proposed Hippo bill. People say its stupid and frivolous and we should concentrate the UN's efforts on more important or pressing matters, but those people fail to see that this bill is nothing more than fun! Well, why should we have fun, i mean its the UN were talking about right? Wrong! Its our model UN in a GAME. What are games if they're not fun? So, to reiterate, i dont see why anyone should vote against this bill. If you take the time to look past the generally funny hippo aspect, you'll see the bill also begins some quality environmentally conscience intitiatives. That should be enough for those of you who are opposed to fun to still consider this a worthy resolution which deserves an affirmative vote. For the rest of you nay-sayers, who oppose both fun and the environment, your beyond my help.

I see no reason anyone should vote against the proposed Hippo bill. People say its stupid and frivolous and we should concentrate the UN's efforts on more important or pressing matters, but those people fail to see that this bill is nothing more than fun! Well, why should we have fun, i mean its the UN were talking about right? Wrong! Its our model UN in a GAME. What are games if they're not fun? So, to reiterate, i dont see why anyone should vote against this bill. If you take the time to look past the generally funny hippo aspect, you'll see the bill also begins some quality environmentally conscience intitiatives. That should be enough for those of you who are opposed to fun to still consider this a worthy resolution which deserves an affirmative vote. For the rest of you nay-sayers, who oppose both fun and the environment, your beyond my help.
1. You can have all the fun you want on the message boards, but keep the stupidity out of the UN agenda. If it was actually funny, maybe I would vote for it, but it sounds like a giddy third-grader wrote it.
2. The two sentences about the environment were clearly just stuck in to attract votes. They are poorly written, vague, ridiculously brief, and they do not detract from the overall stupidness of the resolution.
3. Die.

Eric the Half a Bee Wrote:
1. You can have all the fun you want on the message boards, but keep the stupidity out of the UN agenda. If it was actually funny, maybe I would vote for it, but it sounds like a giddy third-grader wrote it.
2. The two sentences about the environment were clearly just stuck in to attract votes. They are poorly written, vague, ridiculously brief, and they do not detract from the overall stupidness of the resolution.
3. Die.

Your concept of humour concerns me not, and therefore you can vote against the resolution if you so choose. I would hope someone who takes their name from a classic Monty Python skit would better appreciate a bit of sillyness, even on the sacrosanct UN agenda. I can even accept your position that the environmental portion of the resolution was an area givin less thought by the author. But it is there, however poorly written it may be, and applies as much as the rest of the bill. I don't think it was stuck there just to garner votes though, it seems more of an attemp to appease those such as yourself who are all buisness and would dismiss the bill as simple frivolty without it. The one thing I cannot account for is your desire for my death. For one so concerned with proper conduct, it seems illogical to step outside the normal bounds of civilized interaction between nations, and i will not do so myself. Whether its because I am, myself, too civilized, because I liked the Eric the Half a Bee skit, or because I generally don't care enough to do so is yet to be seen. That is all.

The Federation of Friedylvania applauds this progressive step to alleviate the appalling gaps between big and small in the world. It should be noted that, while efforts to help preserve hippoes are being lambasted by the holier-than-thou, those same people have no problem with the many programs aimed at preventing seal-clubbing, for instance. As well the legislation is more-or-less free, since the big expense - the preserves - are funded by voluntary donations.

If it was actually funny, maybe I would vote for it, but it sounds like a giddy third-grader wrote it.

Seriously, it doesn't. Ask your mom to explain the big words to you.

Also, I must admit that I seriously misjudged my audience. Here's a joke for Eric: One time, I asked my brother to pull my finger. Then I farted.

I would hope someone who takes their name from a classic Monty Python skit would better appreciate a bit of sillyness, even on the sacrosanct UN agenda.

I hadn't remembered the reference, but I agree completely. The notion of a Monty Python fan being so sanctimonious and joyless is beyond reason, completely alien to the spirit of their work.

There must be some intellectual pretentions about liking Monty Python that I was hitherto unaware of. Maybe it's something you have to do at his little school to get the smart kids to like you.

Also, I just read Eric's last post doing John Cleese in my head. No trace of humor there.

You don't really expect me to support this bill, do you? If I went home and told my people that I had gotten them an anual holiday for hippos, I would be a laughingstock! Some people in Galdon3 already laugh at and complain about the government regularly. This proposal could easily be enough to drive those people to a coup d'etat.

You don't really expect me to support this bill, do you? If I went home and told my people that I had gotten them an anual holiday for hippos, I would be a laughingstock! Some people in Galdon3 already laugh at and complain about the government regularly. This proposal could easily be enough to drive those people to a coup d'etat.

Tell them that you got an annual day for environmental awareness and wildlife preservation. That's what the proposal really does.

That wouldn't garner me much appreciation, as we already have a monthly recognition of environmental concerns and wildlife preservation. One more would make thirteen a year, which would scare some of the supersticious voter population and, again, lead to a coup d'etat. The only way this is better is that the coup could be stopped by a hoard of black cats.

I would like to clarify a bit of the last two statements I made. The supersticious people, of whom I fear a coup d'etat, Make up much of the people who often laugh at and complain about the government that I mentioned earlier. The people of Galdon3 are not all out to destroy their government.

Jesus, you people are dicks. Its a proposal about hippos, its funny yet aware, if you keep acting like you are sitting on a fence post than the who UN will fall apart, some good humour is good here and there. Lighten up :idea:

OOC: It would appear you are the one who needs to lighten up, ducky. My posts have been in this thread have been in good fun and in character, while yours appears to be humorless and out of character.

IC: A coup d'etat is not something to be taken lightly, Anduckstavianomonobia! It is one thing to lose your job, and another entirely to lose your life!

That wouldn't garner me much appreciation, as we already have a monthly recognition of environmental concerns and wildlife preservation. One more would make thirteen a year, which would scare some of the supersticious voter population and, again, lead to a coup d'etat. The only way this is better is that the coup could be stopped by a hoard of black cats.

I don't get it, if you agree that such a thing is enough of a good idea to hold one twelve times a year and your population accepts that, then make the day in December coincide with Hippo Awareness Day and you're done.

Also, picture a penguin slow-dancing with a hedgehog. That is funny.

I would love to, Nebula, but as I've already said, 13 could bring about a coup. I should also probably mention that adding 2 new holidays in one year could break our fragile economy, since nobody works on holidays, so that option is also out of the question.

And I don't find penguins slow dancing with hedgehogs funny. Penguins swing dancing with badgers, however, is quite amusing.

Tell them that you got an annual day for environmental awareness and wildlife preservation. That's what the proposal really does.

uhhh...it's a little more to it than that: look at what is affected...

ALL industries

It is not a 'feel-good' resolution that's 'fun & lighthearted'; it is actually a proposal that threatens EVERY industry in EVERY nation! People can say the 'Alternate Fuels Resolution' justly affected the automotive industry, this one will affect all industry, including 'basket weaving'.

It is not about hippos..it is an attack on every single industry in every nation: this proposal is simply wrong, the cute hippos are clouding the real issue of the author; namely, all the worlds economies will suffer. That is the true proposal.

Tell them that you got an annual day for environmental awareness and wildlife preservation. That's what the proposal really does.

uhhh...it's a little more to it than that: look at what is affected...

ALL industries

It is not a 'feel-good' resolution that's 'fun & lighthearted'; it is actually a proposal that threatens EVERY industry in EVERY nation! People can say the 'Alternate Fuels Resolution' justly affected the automotive industry, this one will affect all industry, including 'basket weaving'.

It is not about hippos..it is an attack on every single industry in every nation: this proposal is simply wrong, the cute hippos are clouding the real issue of the author; namely, all the worlds economies will suffer. That is the true proposal.

This proposal is not an attack on industry nor is it intended to be. If you think about the provisions of the proposal, it is true that the proposal effects all industries, but that effect should be negligible.

Also, Bill Gates is funding slanderous teevee commercials about this fine proposal because Hippos like apples.

it is true that the proposal effects all industries, but that effect should be negligible.

uhhh....ok

the same "negligible" effects on economies like the 'Alternate Fuels' and the 'Union Rights' resolutions???

sorry, but "trusting" that next to nothing will happen to economies, especially when the proposal clearly states:

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment,
at the expense of industry

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses

What you are asking is for people to 'trust you' that a game mechanics outside your control, will NOT adversely affect their economies is simply absurd! Because your proposal affects ALL industry, how can you honestly state that this proposal wont tank people's economies?

The honest answer is because of the game mechanics, ALL nations will suffer, because YOU established that ALL industries will be affected.

It's that simple.

it is true that the proposal effects all industries, but that effect should be negligible.

uhhh....ok

the same "negligible" effects on economies like the 'Alternate Fuels' and the 'Union Rights' resolutions???

sorry, but "trusting" that next to nothing will happen to economies, especially when the proposal clearly states:

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment,
at the expense of industry

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses

What you are asking is for people to 'trust you' that a game mechanics outside your control, will NOT adversely affect their economies is simply absurd! Because your proposal affects ALL industry, how can you honestly state that this proposal wont tank people's economies?

The honest answer is because of the game mechanics, ALL nations will suffer, because YOU established that ALL industries will be affected.

It's that simple.

OOC: I'm asking nor stating no such thing. I really don't know what the game mechanics will do with the resolution if and when it passes, I'm not even concerned with it. But I think that it's axiomatic that if your nation's environment is helped by putting some restrictions on business that's an overall positive outcome.

I will not play some sort of ridiculous meta-game where all I care about is what the game mechanics are going to do with something. I'm either not going to give a damn how my nations stats are effected or I'm going to think about the proposal as it is written and judge it on it's merits, thinking about what reasonable consequences there would be if it were implemented. I will not reason based upon some kind of supernatural powers that a world leader in the game wouldn't know existed. That's simply silly.

OOC : I thought it was actually quite amusing and had a chuckle.

IC : My vote was against for two reasons.

1) There are no Hippos in my nation and even if there were, we would probably eat them. Heck, we eat the Turkey Buzzard...it's a delicacy.

2) I'm not willing to vote for a resolution that might hurt my economy.

Cad

that has to be the worst resolution ever i am glad it will be defeated

it is true that the proposal effects all industries, but that effect should be negligible.

uhhh....ok

the same "negligible" effects on economies like the 'Alternate Fuels' and the 'Union Rights' resolutions???

sorry, but "trusting" that next to nothing will happen to economies, especially when the proposal clearly states:

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment,
at the expense of industry

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses

What you are asking is for people to 'trust you' that a game mechanics outside your control, will NOT adversely affect their economies is simply absurd! Because your proposal affects ALL industry, how can you honestly state that this proposal wont tank people's economies?

The honest answer is because of the game mechanics, ALL nations will suffer, because YOU established that ALL industries will be affected.

It's that simple.

OOC: I'm asking nor stating no such thing. I really don't know what the game mechanics will do with the resolution if and when it passes, I'm not even concerned with it. But I think that it's axiomatic that if your nation's environment is helped by putting some restrictions on business that's an overall positive outcome.

I will not play some sort of ridiculous meta-game where all I care about is what the game mechanics are going to do with something. I'm either not going to give a damn how my nations stats are effected or I'm going to think about the proposal as it is written and judge it on it's merits, thinking about what reasonable consequences there would be if it were implemented. I will not reason based upon some kind of supernatural powers that a world leader in the game wouldn't know existed. That's simply silly.

So, in writing this proposal, you don't care at all about the consequences of your actions? That doesn't sound like the conduct of a UN member. From a certain perspective, that could be considered griefing. You are deliberately making proposals with the potential to destroy economies and have no concern for the universal consequences. Just because you don't care doesn't mean that you should force others to abide by your non-chalant policies. This is an absurd resolution, and you have proved you have no valid defense for your actions.

OOC: I'm asking nor stating no such thing. I really don't know what the game mechanics will do with the resolution if and when it passes, I'm not even concerned with it. But I think that it's axiomatic that if your nation's environment is helped by putting some restrictions on business that's an overall positive outcome.

I will not play some sort of ridiculous meta-game where all I care about is what the game mechanics are going to do with something. I'm either not going to give a damn how my nations stats are effected or I'm going to think about the proposal as it is written and judge it on it's merits, thinking about what reasonable consequences there would be if it were implemented. I will not reason based upon some kind of supernatural powers that a world leader in the game wouldn't know existed. That's simply silly.

uhh..ok, so let's look at what your 'position' really is...

"I really don't know what the game mechanics will do with the resolution if and when it passes"
= hello????? all resolutions are dependent on the game mechanics!!!

"I'm not even concerned with it."
= yes, well, that is clearly obvious

"I think that it's axiomatic that if your nation's environment is helped by putting some restrictions on business that's an overall positive outcome. "
= gee...lets see...you, by YOUR action, propose to damage ALL businesses..smart move :roll:

"I will not play some sort of ridiculous meta-game where all I care about is what the game mechanics are going to do with something."
= that is EXACTLY what this NS game is all about!!!! what planet are you on???

" I'm either not going to give a damn how my nations stats are effected"
= you mean 'affected', and even so, others ARE concerned

"I will not reason based upon some kind of supernatural powers that a world leader in the game wouldn't know existed. That's simply silly"
= you lost me here

As to 'simply silly' (in your own words) I find a resolution that:
a) would damage ALL national industries
simply for some dumb ass
b) hippo day
is the height of hubris!!!

Learn to understand the mechanics of the game before you espouse a proposal that you freely admit you do not consider the essentials of the game itself.

Seriously, this is possibly the worst proposal ever. It is not only a failed attempt at humour, but it is an attempt by tree hugging hippies to ruin the economy of my nation. We have no hippos, as the cerberus, our national animal, is their fiercest predator. We want no hippos. Preserving wildlife isn't going to put food on my plate or the plates of my citizens, and such a ridiculous proposal has no right to endanger my industry for the sake of some non-sentient being.

To the Orion Nebula: In the spectacularly impossible event of this resolution, expect my country to declare war. You proposed a bill to the UN to hurt my economy? Well I say an eye for an eye. Don't mess with a nation that uses nuclear warheads as currency.

Yes, hens may cluck Architeuthis, but they cluck in Evil, devil-inspired ways. If a hen ever starts to cluck at you, get an exorcism.Oh, man I almost died laughing. And Im bleedin because my head hit the computer screen

There seem to me, an amateur at politicks (I mean look at my post count, clearly I know nothing about the game) that there are a few fundamental reasons to vote in favor of the bill.

1) This game is filled with elitists. I mean, I love the game, but not like I love my girlfriend or my mom (Umm, that didn’t sound right). If you look at some of those who post about UN resolutions you would think they wrote the Magna Carta only shortly before signing up for this game. Really, let’s chill and play a game, albeit a game of politics.
2) It’s a game. Humor is allowed (only sometimes).
3) Someone wrote a proposal about Hippos and it got 3000 votes in favor. Seriously, you should vote in favor if for no other reason then to give mad props that way to the author. If you actually think it is simply an easy pass, you try to do the same. I bet you will fail.
4) In game reason, it will boost your social stats. One of the mods posted that it would hurt his economy in favor of helping his social make-up. Do you really want to favor a purely capitalistic mod (just a joke, no ill intended) for the destruction, degeneration, and delayed appreciation of the environment around you?
5) There is no number 5.
6) It is a well written proposal. I have seen some say that this is not well written, ot else you would support it. Poppycock, you would like all make mass edits on Joyce’s Ulysses as well (not that the two are really comparable).

I would ask you to look into the heart of the proposal, and vote for that. This is a game. Someone found a way to use politics to return to the spirit of a game. For any who voted for Freedom Of Humor, you do it a disservice if you vote against this.

ask not what your Hippo can do for you, ask what YOU can do for your Hippo, vote Yes, support the Hippo before we have No Hippo's to support!

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Good sir of Galdon5. I was not acting out of character, but I was in a non humourous way of thinking. I was merely stating that If we stay up tight about things in the UN, things will fall apart, true we should be seroius, but really..The hippo resolution WAS a proposal, but is now a bill, and got enough votes to make it into a resolution and that doesnt happen often, give it a chance and talk to the one who made the resolution to get the true meaning of it.

hippos are cool

So, in writing this proposal, you don't care at all about the consequences of your actions? That doesn't sound like the conduct of a UN member. From a certain perspective, that could be considered griefing.

I didn't say that. I care about what the resolution does. I want a resolution that will improve the environment, I just refuse to determine how I vote based upon what the programming of the game will do with it. If I am playing my character, that does not exist to him.

You are deliberately making proposals with the potential to destroy economies and have no concern for the universal consequences. Just because you don't care doesn't mean that you should force others to abide by your non-chalant policies. This is an absurd resolution, and you have proved you have no valid defense for your actions.

This is complete and utter nonsense. So back and read what I said, try to understand it and when you have something valid to say I'll continue this discussion. I'm going to assume that you aren't stupid and so, I'm going to say this. You can't understand something just by scanning it. You have to read things. That's why you don't understand my last post and also why you clearly don't understand the resolution. Furthermore, to respond to something that you don't understand is intellectually sloppy and a waste of other people's time.

After reading the proposed resolution on the hippos, it stuck a few thoughts into our mind.

Firstly, the resolution is totally barmy. Enough said there.

Secondly, while it's all fine saving hippos from extinction and all, but is that alright, as opposed to saving other endangered species? I don't think so. If I remember correctly, the resolution states that all efforts must be put into saving hippos and nothing else. Surely that's wrong.

And lastly, saving hippos and nothing else is very hypocritical. It's like Greenpeace campaigning against nuclear power but using a nuclear warhead to blow up a power station. Imagine if the RSPCA said "We don't want dogs! All pets but dogs, we'll save." So there you see. This resoultion is incredibly moronic and thus must not be put into place.

I will not reason based upon some kind of supernatural powers that a world leader in the game wouldn't know existed. That's simply silly.
= you lost me here

And so therefore you understand nothing because therein lies my entire point.

I'll rephrase it.

I think it's reasonable to play the game for the fun of interacting with other people. In that case, national stats are unimportant.

It's also reasonable to play the game pretending to be a world leader and to decide things based on their merit. That world leader would not know he's part of a game and so he can't think things like "I like this Hippo proposal, but I'm not going to vote for it because the game mechanics will hurt my economy." He would look at it and realize that having a day like Arbor Day or Earth Day can't possibly have much of an effect on his economy (regardless of what the game forces you to input to make an environmental proposal).

What I find silly is to think "all I care about is my nations stats, how will this effect them." As if making a category on an internet page change is worth doing.

As to 'simply silly' (in your own words) I find a resolution that:
a) would damage ALL national industries
simply for some dumb ass
b) hippo day is the height of hubris!!!

It's not for some "dumb ass Hippo day", it's a day to promote Environmental Conservation and Wildlife Preservation and it will improve your nations environment. But nice use of the fancy word there, Sparky.

Also "affect" you got me there. Sorry.

Secondly, while it's all fine saving hippos from extinction and all, but is that alright, as opposed to saving other endangered species? I don't think so. If I remember correctly, the resolution states that all efforts must be put into saving hippos and nothing else. Surely that's wrong.

It doesn't say that.

AND LET IT BE FURTHER RESOLVED that each member nation shall create programs that, on this day, educate its populace to the plight of all endangered species, but mostly Hippos. These programs should also raise the environmental awareness of the citizenry and encourage conservation.

"but mostly Hippos" is part of the intended humor.

Orion Nebula, you have the most flawed logic in the world. You claim you want a resolution to improve the environment, and that your leader would not know what the game mechanics would do with this so you can't judge based on that. Your leader does know that the expend resources on promoting and improving the environment, these resources must come from somewhere. If you want to gain anything in life, you must sacrifice something of equal value. All of the UN leaders understand this concept except you. Industry is important, and in the eyes of the citizens of Apocs it is far more important than the enviornment in our country.

By telling us to vote on this without caring about the mechanics of the game, you're essentially asking us to expect to get something for nothing. No one thinks you can improve the enviornment without losing something elsewhere, and the resolution even clearly states where we would be losing out. This has nothing to do with being some omnicient gamer, it is simple logic that any world leader can understand.

Orion Nebula, you have the most flawed logic in the world. You claim you want a resolution to improve the environment, and that your leader would not know what the game mechanics would do with this so you can't judge based on that. Your leader does know that the expend resources on promoting and improving the environment, these resources must come from somewhere. If you want to gain anything in life, you must sacrifice something of equal value. All of the UN leaders understand this concept except you. Industry is important, and in the eyes of the citizens of Apocs it is far more important than the enviornment in our country.

By telling us to vote on this without caring about the mechanics of the game, you're essentially asking us to expect to get something for nothing. No one thinks you can improve the enviornment without losing something elsewhere, and the resolution even clearly states where we would be losing out. This has nothing to do with being some omnicient gamer, it is simple logic that any world leader can understand.

hippoes rule. 'nuff said. :D

I am aware that this resolution i SUPPPOSED to be funny, but i find no humor in it what so ever. I laugh quite frequently and at the most random of things, but this put more of a frown on my face than a smile. If it contained actaul humor I would vote for it, if it was actualy benefiting the enviornment I would vote for, if it even made a speck of sense I would vote for it, but the fact is that this proposal does nothing of the aforementioned. I am not trying to offened its supporters or its author, but in my humble opininion I think this resolution to be written by either

1.) A third grader
2.) A stoned wanna-be comedian
3.) Or a very very immature teen or adult

Either way i find htis proposal to be very juvenile and not funny in the least bit. I do not mean to offend anyone who supports this, but I just had to voice my personal opinion.

Hippos are disected in our high school biology courses. So our students are well aware of Hippos, therefore I find this resolution frivilous.

What IDIOT made this stupid, moronic, insane proposal? And how the hell did it ever get to become a resolution? It should never have made it past being a proposal. If this is what this game has been reduced to then it's just sad.

You people must know some extremely intelligent 3rd graders.
Most 8-year-olds I know could barely spell their own name. The "Hippoes really are quite large" proposal is very well written (props to the author)- it takes the proper structure for a UN bill, uses a good balance of language, and more importantly, uses a good quantity of underemphasis humour to get a great point across.
This sort of humour isn't for everyone, of course, but does represent a mind which can sit back and have a laugh at its own expense- which is a sign of a non-stuck-up person. Anyone who doesn't get the humour enclosed in this peace needs to lighten up and have a bit less maturity.
In terms of game mechanics, the UN proposals have so very little effect on my nation (as far as I can tell) that it makes no difference what I vote. The issues I choose are far more powerful in their effects. I suggest that everyone lighten up and remember: In a forum freeform rpg situation, its just that easy to make stuff up. Everyone who is overconcerned with
imposing realism in a game which has its roleplaying element in an unruled text format needs their head checked. Let everyone play the way they want to play, and play with the people who play your way.
I'm going to stop my ramble here now.

IN Character:
I have consulted with the princes of the Co-Dependancy, and it has occurred to them that our great nation is woefully short on national holidays, being a secular state. So, I have decided to vote for the resolution concerning hippoes and environmental awareness in the hope of raising both national environmental awareness and national available leisure time.
-Mayhem, Advocate and foreign representative of the Co-Dependancy of the AH Dynasties.

You people must know some extremely intelligent 3rd graders.
Most 8-year-olds I know could barely spell their own name. The "Hippoes really are quite large" proposal is very well written (props to the author)- it takes the proper structure for a UN bill, uses a good balance of language, and more importantly, uses a good quantity of underemphasis humour to get a great point across.
This sort of humour isn't for everyone, of course, but does represent a mind which can sit back and have a laugh at its own expense- which is a sign of a non-stuck-up person. Anyone who doesn't get the humour enclosed in this peace needs to lighten up and have a bit less maturity.
In terms of game mechanics, the UN proposals have so very little effect on my nation (as far as I can tell) that it makes no difference what I vote. The issues I choose are far more powerful in their effects. I suggest that everyone lighten up and remember: In a forum freeform rpg situation, its just that easy to make stuff up. Everyone who is overconcerned with
imposing realism in a game which has its roleplaying element in an unruled text format needs their head checked. Let everyone play the way they want to play, and play with the people who play your way.
I'm going to stop my ramble here now.

Thanks AH you are a true lady and/or gentleman.

:roll: The UN does not need to wate its time with something as trivial as hippos and the awareness of hippos.It's just plain pitiful that this resolution is even being considered! It's being shot down any way..... :P

How horendous...this is what our world gov't is coming too...

This is the stupidest issue I've ever seen in the UN. I can't even see how it managed to get support. Yes, it's supposed to be a joke, but I'm not laughing. I am glad to see that most people have voted against it though.

i voted yes, becuse, after all, my national animal is THE HIPPO!!!!

they are rather large, and i think that since mothers and faters have their own day, hippos should too!

VOTE YES, GO NOW! :D :mrgreen:

Listen. Hippos have a name that sounds really dumb, they are teased all through grade school, and only manage to get jobs as janitors, poolcleaners, or Brocolli Manufacturers because of this. Furthermore, this ingrained reputation causes thsir decline of size, EVEN THOUGH THEY STAY THE SAME SIZE. Trust me, hippos are the BEST, and deserve appreciation for enduring all this vile slander and bias.

(OOC: I thought it was cute, but not a knee-slapper)

The Priests of the Temples of Syrinx have taken a consensus and decided to vote against this resolution. The reasoning being that this gives the hippopotamus (and other non-humans) an individual identity. This will not be allowed! All life forms must serve the Priests, and the Priests must serve Syrinx. We do not appreciate this attempt at disrupting Our Perfect Life.

High Priest of Syrinx
"Never need to wonder how or why"

(OOC: I thought it was cute, but not a knee-slapper)

The Priests of the Temples of Syrinx have taken a consensus and decided to vote against this resolution. The reasoning being that this gives the hippopotamus (and other non-humans) an individual identity. This will not be allowed! All life forms must serve the Priests, and the Priests must serve Syrinx. We do not appreciate this attempt at disrupting Our Perfect Life.

High Priest of Syrinx
"Never need to wonder how or why"

Come on, DON'T YOU THINK THAT'S A LITTLE PREJUDICED????? :x Hippos deserve rights just like anybody else, even your priests.

hippos are cool

and are really quite large

seriously, if you think the resolution is stupid, then you really have no sense of humor. This is one of the best resolutions I've seen in quite a while.

(OOC: I thought it was cute, but not a knee-slapper)

The Priests of the Temples of Syrinx have taken a consensus and decided to vote against this resolution. The reasoning being that this gives the hippopotamus (and other non-humans) an individual identity. This will not be allowed! All life forms must serve the Priests, and the Priests must serve Syrinx. We do not appreciate this attempt at disrupting Our Perfect Life.

High Priest of Syrinx
"Never need to wonder how or why"

Come on, DON'T YOU THINK THAT'S A LITTLE PREJUDICED????? :x Hippos deserve rights just like anybody else, even your priests.

Rights are bestowed by Syrinx through the Priests, and Syrinx has decreed the only right of Her creatures is to serve Her. The Priests find that honoring the hippopotamus in this way would be to single out one of Syrinx's creations as superior, which indeed it is not. We are all equal in Her eyes, the Priests, however, are more equal than the others.

If it is, however, the wish of Syrinx for Us to revere the hippopotamus, She will let us know. As of yet, She hasn't.

High Priest of Syrinx
"It's One for all and all for One, we work together, common son"

have you people ever stopped to think that maybe hippos are ashamed of their weight? I think that someone should make a proposal to offer all hippos the chance to go on the Subway diet that Jared did. Then maybe hippos would be a bit happier.

I think it's reasonable to play the game for the fun of interacting with other people. In that case, national stats are unimportant.

It's also reasonable to play the game pretending to be a world leader and to decide things based on their merit. That world leader would not know he's part of a game and so he can't think things like "I like this Hippo proposal, but I'm not going to vote for it because the game mechanics will hurt my economy." He would look at it and realize that having a day like Arbor Day or Earth Day can't possibly have much of an effect on his economy (regardless of what the game forces you to input to make an environmental proposal).

What I find silly is to think "all I care about is my nations stats, how will this effect them." As if making a category on an internet page change is worth doing.



With all due respect, I think you are missing the point completely. I think we will all agree that everyone here has an interest in his or her own nation, crafting it as one sees fit. People are thus concerned about the consequences of any action affecting their nations.

When others are talking about "game mechanics", that's only shorthand for "unforseen consequences". Real world leaders are concerned about those in the decisions they make.

You say that this resolution should be judged on its merit. That's perfectly reasonable. I think that people are doing that. However, I must side with those who think that this resolution may compel a greater trade-off than that which a member state is willing to sustain. If this were a resolution touching on one industry, that might be one thing. But, I don't think anyone should be surprised that such a widely reaching resolution is seeing so much difficulty in passage.

I weighed its merits and considered them. In the end, I had to vote no.

Cordially,
The President of the Armed Republic of Allstonland

The Kingdom of Sarmatia has read and unconditionally voted NO to this resolution, and we will likewise reject any further meaningless and useless motions on the Floor.

hippos are cool

and are really quite large

seriously, if you think the resolution is stupid, then you really have no sense of humor. This is one of the best resolutions I've seen in quite a while.

The people of Galdon3 do not subscribe to mainstream "humor" where the only things considered funny is what the "cool" people say are funny. We appreciate SNL, blonde jokes, and stand up comedy, but we do not have to believe that something is funny simply because El Jefe says so.

You say that this resolution should be judged on its merit. That's perfectly reasonable. I think that people are doing that. However, I must side with those who think that this resolution may compel a greater trade-off than that which a member state is willing to sustain. If this were a resolution touching on one industry, that might be one thing. But, I don't think anyone should be surprised that such a widely reaching resolution is seeing so much difficulty in passage.

And this is 100% reasonable although I disagree. But you aren't invoking knowledge that would not exist inside the game.

From an outside the game standpoint, if I'd had a logical reason for stating that the resolution would only effect one industry, I'd have gone with that option, but can you suggest why "Hippo Awareness Day" might affect basket weaving but not the auto industry?

Hippos can't drive, but they look cute carrying little baskets full of flowers. Also they look rather stylish wearing berets. Check my flag for proof.

I imagine many publishing industries would actually see positive change, and that in most cases, members of an industry wouldn't HAVE to spend money on the holiday.

Also, I do not believe that Hippo Awareness Day would be a day for the people to take off. If everyone was off for every holdiay, no one would work, ever.

Antoinasia and its people take its environment seriously, and therefore, after passing a vote within our own government, we have agreed to accept this resolution. The people will learn to appreciate all wildlife, endangered or not.

We of Chumba are not sure now, we feel Hippos to be very dangerous.

First of all, hippos produce their own sunblock. That is a fact. Look it up. They really do. It's a red, mucous-y substance.

Second of all, everyone poops, especially hippos. If a hippo poops at the zoo in front of a crowd of children, they will all shout "Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!" together. That is also a fact.

Third of all, you can drill a hole in a hippo and find stuff inside. Also fact.

When the next hippo proposal hits the floor, I hope you will all remember that filling a hippo full of oatmeal and patting it on the butt is a dangerous activity.

Also did I tell you about the mittens?

Anyone who votes against this resolution, would you argue that Hippos are Small? I think not. Therefor you prove hyperbole, blindness, personal politcal motivations, or dishonesty in voting against this.









possibly.

Anyone who votes against this resolution, would you argue that Hippos are Small? I think not. Therefor you prove hyperbole, blindness, personal politcal motivations, or dishonesty in voting against this.









possibly.

I've said a few times that this resolution was the stupidest thing I've ever read. Congratulations on changing my mind.

#edit: that was a subtle shot at you, btw

#edit: that was a subtle shot at you, btw

Boy, it's a good thing that you added this. I never would have picked up on this otherwise.

Congratulations on changing my mind.

Also, I'm glad that you changed your mind and have decided to support the Hippo resolution. Welcome aboard!!

Despite all those self-important, stuck-up, we-know-what's-right-for-everyone-including-hippos nations, HIPPOS ARE VERY LARGE. WHEN YOU THINK OF MICE, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE THE SAME SIZE AS HIPPOS IS NOT MENTIONED BECAUSE HIPPOS ARE LARGE. Therefore everyone should support the resolution. And, if the UN allows the resolution, that should be a SUBTLE HINT that they think that it is an issue worthy of SAYING YES TO. So...SAY YES TO IT :!:

WEEEE ARRRE ALLL HIIPPPPOOOOS! SING IT! :D :D :D

SO WEEEEEEEEEE LOOVE THE HIIIPPPOOOOS! :D :D :D

The people will learn to appreciate all wildlife, endangered or not.

Hehehe... love the ominous phrasing there :wink: There's something Orwell never wrote about: militant ecology.

Despite all those self-important, stuck-up, we-know-what's-right-for-everyone-including-hippos nations, HIPPOS ARE VERY LARGE. WHEN YOU THINK OF MICE, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE THE SAME SIZE AS HIPPOS IS NOT MENTIONED BECAUSE HIPPOS ARE LARGE. Therefore everyone should support the resolution. And, if the UN allows the resolution, that should be a SUBTLE HINT that they think that it is an issue worthy of SAYING YES TO. So...SAY YES TO IT :!:

No, it just means that enough delagates voted for this proposal in order for it to become a bill. This bill is a waste of time. We should be voting on much more important issues, like what to do with time wasters (i.e: throw them all into a large vat of chocolate)