The hippo proposal is the dumbest thing i've ever read...
I can't believe that this got approved to be voted for. What about important things? This is ridiculous.
Do they really let anyone and anything into the UN?
Vote this down, please.
Gladly. Freedom of humour is one thing, but not in things which really should be held up in dignity and respect, such as UN proposals. Besides, it's more lame than funny.
DHO
Eastern Newfoundland
12-12-2003, 20:14
This has to be the stupidest thing I have ever seen... if it passes......
:evil:
All my hippoes died in the great hippo fire of 2000... :cry:
whats the point of me worshiping hippoes if I dont have any on my nation?
Again, I do not like this idea because it makes me sad. I lost me hippoes.
oh well
Hippoes or no hippoes, I'm not voting for this outrageous "national hippo day"
Booo to hippos
Yaaay Beer
now... all I need to do is to start a Panda Fire and we'll be all set
Alabammy
12-12-2003, 20:51
Ya UN folks want a buncha tree-huggin' hippies, well we'll give ya'll a bunch of tree-huggin' hippies.
Alabammy's votin' YES for the hippos.
-Prez Billy Bob Hicklee
people, peolpe people,
many of you have no idea how hard these hippos fight ot survive, especially the house hippos.
did you know that house hippos (about 5 inches in length), in the middle of the night, get out from their hiding place in your closet to snack on leftovers that they find in your house. they make their nests out of pocket fluff and other soft materials. they are especially endagered in a house where a neat freak lives...
in short vote yes for hippos... i know i will
Was this something like preserving hippos or just some hippo-day?
What are those who vote yes against hippos? I'm sure they'll want to keep living their lives without any hippo-days. It would be too commercial, everything related to natural preservation is too commercial. Or would it be free-day? One efficient work-day off??
Hippos are fine, there is no need to add any hippo-days in calendars.
Balilaba will vote against.
Etanistan
12-12-2003, 21:33
Our nation is amazed, that while other nations stand by and vote for poorly written and legislatively redundant proposals, that they could be so vehemently opposed to a proposal that is actually well written and adds a little fun to our lives. Humor is not frivolous or ignoble; rather it adds a necessary and delightful dimension to life in NationStates.
We whole-heartedly endorse the Hippo Proposal and urge other UN members to do the same.
- Garbanzo Villa-Gibraltar de la Corn Palace, Associate Vice Minister for Public Support of International Bibliophilic Informatics, Most Serene Republic of Etanistan
Foofadilly, for one, will vote in favor of the hippos. Anyone who disagrees can speak to the moose population of the Foofadillian forests, close friends of the hippos. Dig it.
If it were a "Protect the hippos" resolution, I would be prepared to vote "yes" for it. As it is, however, I find myself unable to find any worth in this proposal. Therefore, I will vote against it.
Oppressed Possums
12-12-2003, 21:57
I've read worse but never on the floor of the general assembly.
Teakland
12-12-2003, 22:00
A message from The People's Republic of Teakland
On behalf of the humble people of Teakland, I would like to take this opportunity to speak out in favour of the U.N. resolution. The use of the much-maligned hippo for humour - as outlined by the charter -would seem to be, in this instance, a terrible mistake. It would appear that the leaders of many nations have not fully read the proposal, skimming it for instances of the word Hippo that they can condemn, and have ignored the very important second-to-last proposal.
AND LET IT BE STILL FURTHER RESOLVED that the member nations of the UN are encouraged to broadcast a national telethon on Hippo Awareness Day to raise money for the establishment of national parks and wildlife sanctuaries.
While it is true that some people may be against having a United Nations-sanctioned fundraiser for National Parks, we feel that many nations have missed the point of the thread entirely. If you are against Environmental Awareness and Protection, or at least the idea of Environmental Awareness and Protection disguised as a Large Hippo bill, by all means, vote No. Anyone who is in favour of protecting our endangered species and habitats, however, I implore you to reconsider your vote. Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Gao Tsin-Hung
Minister of The Environment
The hippo bill is tragically insensitive to rhinos.
It is the rhinoceros, not the hippopotamus, that is the second largest land animal.
This proposal IS pretty stupid. I'm all for saving the hippoes and preserving nature is important to me, which is why balrogs roam through the many lush forests of Belgiustan. I just think that waisting funds to make a hippo day is a waiste of funding and dosen't justify the loss in the economy. That is why Belgiustan and all countries in T M SC supporting Belgiustan as the UN official are voting against this proposal, as I hope all countries who prefer not to waiste money just to overpromote a hippo.
What on earth is wrong with you people? This vote isn't about humour, that one already passed. This is about creating a world-wide hippo day for no reason, as well as "encouraging" which we all know means forcing more often than not in the UN a day long telethon for money to be spent on national parks and other wildlife junk. I could potentially understand why you would vote in favour of this, but it seems foolish to impose the holiday of one country on all UN nations. What if my country doesn't have hippos due to climate conditions? What if there happens to already be a holiday on the first Thursday after the winter solstace? Is National Hippo Day more important than the anniversary of the day Apocs declared victory over the Bigtopians in the fight for the freedom to become our own nation?
Also, I understand humour in the UN (Though not on the UN floor to this degree) as well as humour in these forums for debate, but let's stay SOMEWHAT within the realm of reality. There is no 5 inch long hippo that lives in our houses raiding the fridge at night. Laughing is important, but if you want to run your own nation then so is not having the mentality of an eight year old.
United Typos
12-12-2003, 22:47
"ALSO Hello" is well written?
:twisted: If this passes than I am starting my Ununited natinons. It would be something like the Warsaw Pact. :twisted:
:twisted: If this passes than I am starting my own orginaztion called the Ununited natinons. It would be something like the Warsaw Pact. :twisted:
The Orion Nebula
12-12-2003, 22:54
I can't believe that this got approved to be voted for. What about important things? This is ridiculous.
Hippos are known for their environmental activism and are very concerned with the way that Humans are treating the Earth. There is nothing more important than the survival of the Biosphere.
Gladly. Freedom of humour is one thing, but not in things which really should be held up in dignity and respect, such as UN proposals.
Freedom of humor would be hollow indeed if we weren't allowed to mock things that "should be held up in dignity and respect."
Besides, it's more lame than funny.
I bow to your superior knowledge.
This has to be the stupidest thing I have ever seen...
May I introduce New Christopia and Hydrogen Oxide?
If this gets approved then we might as well vote for April 20th (4/20) to be International Iguana Day.
There are so many reasons to vote against this proposal. I am surprised that the moderators didn't kill this resolution a long time ago. I'm surrounded by fools.
1) The UN is not a place for joke proposals. Post them on the forum all you want, but keep them out of the vote.
2) It's not even that funny. In fact, it's just pretty stupid.
3) Hippos are not the second largest land animal anyway, especially in NationStates where there are nations with dragons and such as their national animal. Elephants are clearly larger, and giraffes are larger in terms of height. So really, it should say second fattest land animal.
4) No.
5) The one or two sentences with some good legislation are vague and are outweighed by how bad the rest of the resolution is.
6) Why hippos? Why not half-bee awareness day, or just endangered species awareness day?
7) If you want a resolution for environmental conservation, write a good one.
8 ) Not every nation has hippos. The Dominion of Eric the Half a Bee only has one hippo, and his name is Eric. He is very well regarded, and having a day in his honor would only make everyone else notice how fat he is and how much he smells.
9) Hippos are actually quite dangerous. More people die from hippo attacks each year than from lion attacks. Really.
10) Hippos are not very intelligent, and they don't give a hoot what the lesser human race thinks of them.
There are more reasons, but I don't have the time or the patience to pick apart the entire resolution.
However, I would like to say that in terms of structure, this resolution was fairly well written, and I hope that someone will make a good proposal with a similar structure, though there were still many faults.
This smacks in the face of discrimination against all other animals!
Why should the great animal that is the woodpecker have to put up with the Hippo getting all this attention.
Whilst we may well encourage animal welfare, our great nation cannot possibly agree with such animal discrimination and if such an act was to be passed, would have to reconsider our position within the United Nations, and possibly even declare war on the United Nations for such discriminatory behaviour!
The Orion Nebula
12-12-2003, 23:45
All my hippoes died in the great hippo fire of 2000... :cry:
whats the point of me worshiping hippoes if I dont have any on my nation?
Again, I do not like this idea because it makes me sad. I lost me hippoes.
Here in the Whimsical Republic of the Orion Nebula, we have many Hippos who would be willing to relocate to The Covanant if your nation would promise to put more effort into Environmental Conservation.
Also, National Hippo Day is in June. The proposal calls for "Hippo Awareness Day".
If it were a "Protect the hippos" resolution, I would be prepared to vote "yes" for it. As it is, however, I find myself unable to find any worth in this proposal.
AND LET IT BE FURTHER RESOLVED that each member nation shall create programs that, on this day, educate its populace to the plight of all endangered species and Hippos in particular. These programs should also raise the environmental awareness of the citizenry and encourage conservation. Furthermore these programs should contain the information that HIPPOS ARE BIG to help them regain their rightful place as the Earth's second largest land animal.
Thank you TechnoGeeks for your support.
While it is true that some people may be against having a United Nations-sanctioned fundraiser for National Parks, we feel that many nations have missed the point of the thread entirely. If you are against Environmental Awareness and Protection, or at least the idea of Environmental Awareness and Protection disguised as a Large Hippo bill, by all means, vote No. Anyone who is in favour of protecting our endangered species and habitats, however, I implore you to reconsider your vote. Thank you for your time.
Well said. It appears that many people have passed judgement on this fine piece of legislation without truly understanding it.
The hippo bill is tragically insensitive to rhinos.
It is the rhinoceros, not the hippopotamus, that is the second largest land animal.
LIES!
What on earth is wrong with you people? This vote isn't about humour, that one already passed.
I see, so we are entitled to Freedom of Humor/Humour provided that nothing funny ever happens.
This is about creating a world-wide hippo day for no reason, as well as "encouraging" which we all know means forcing more often than not in the UN a day long telethon for money to be spent on national parks and other wildlife junk.
I think "wildlife junk" is a pretty damn good reason myself. Do you frequently contradict yourself in the space of a single sentence?
What if my country doesn't have hippos due to climate conditions?
We'll send you some. In a UFO! Hippos can adapt to almost anything, especially if they have their windbreakers.
What if there happens to already be a holiday on the first Thursday after the winter solstace?
There is, the first Thursday after the winter solstice is the Hippos most sacred holiday. That is why this day was chosen to honor our Hippo Brothers for their leadership on the environment.
Is National Hippo Day more important than the anniversary of the day Apocs declared victory over the Bigtopians in the fight for the freedom to become our own nation?
Yes. Also National Hippo Day is in June.
Also, thanks to all the great nations who've expressed their support.
The Orion Nebula
12-12-2003, 23:48
Double post removed.
*Albert G. Brown a senior Patoxian diplomat approaches the podium.*
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Fellow members of the UN, 'Hippos are really quite large' is quite frankly the most irrelevant resolution that I have ever seen.
I don't know how this made it the UN floor, and I urge you to vote against this proposal on the following grounds:
1. It is very very pointless.
2. It is made by group that believes the UN is irrelevant and they plan to prove it with this resolution. (I think.)
3. The creation international holiday called “Hippo Awareness Day”.
4. Think of the precedent we are setting, what's next international caterpillar day.
5. it's a joke proposal.
7. "WHEREAS, although Hippos are indeed quite large there exists some controversy as to whether they are the second or third largest land animal" is not applicable in the NS world with such things as dragons flying about.
8. "ALSO hello." anyone care to explain this?
We wish to urge other UN nations to try to make the system work by actively campaigning and educating others about the UN. Turning away from the system won't change things, we must take the UN back from the inside, it is our duty as the free nations of the world to do so.
Thank you, for your time.
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"No to Hippo Day, Save the UN!!!"
I would like to invite all those who claim this proposal is pointless and/or irrelevant to actually read the friggin' thing. I would like to, but I'm not sure they'd sit still long enough to get to the end of this sentence.
For those of you who have read it and still have these feelings, perhaps the next proposal should have a little something about mandatory reading comprehension classes for the masses.
The people of Galdon3 have no hippos and want no hippos. Quite frankly, they compete with river-dragon populations and cause other dragon species bodily harm and/or gas. Furthermore, the people of Galdon3 do not wish to have an anual day-long telethon interrupting the anual "Dragon Day" Parade which happens the first thursday after the winter solstice. Finally, The Blue Whale is the second largest animal, second in size only to Platinum Dragons.
EDIT: Forgive me. I misread the "Second Largest LAND Animal" part.
How come they didnt just propose a resolution for wildlife preservation in General? It is was not funny, I voted against but am prepared to vote for any resolution on wildlife preservation.
SERVING THE PEOPLE
The Orion Nebula
13-12-2003, 00:25
6) Why hippos? Why not half-bee awareness day?
Based on my admittedly limited experience with half-bees, I can't say I care for them.
I think everyone enjoys a good joke, but what is the UN's job? To deal with something like this? Is this a world issue? If the resolution was a day for all endangered species that would be something altogether different. If the hippo is so close to a countries heart then they can concentrate that for there awareness campaign, but that should be up to the country. In many cases there is a fine line between humor and ridiculous. The resolution does touch on some important issues, but unfortunately they are glossed over because all the reader sees is the imagery brought to us of the poor Jr. High hippo. If I had a vote and not just a voice I would have to vote against this resolution.
The hippo bill is tragically insensitive to rhinos.
It is the rhinoceros, not the hippopotamus, that is the second largest land animal.
You're wrong. The asian elephant is second biggest.
#1: African Elephant
#2: Asian Elephant
#3: the various species of rhino's
#4: hippo
Besides, hippos are gassy. The fewer, the better. People say cow farts are destroying the ozone, but it's really animals like the hippo. :)
id like to touch on several things...
1) i wasnt aware hippos went to school
2)hippoes arent endangered...actually they kill more peeps then crocs
3)as to the debate of rather hippoes are 2nd or 3rd largest animal...the answer is simple...neither...elephants, every species of whale and whale sharks are bigger
i just think its funny that he loves hippos so much and only seems to know that they are big...but i obviously voted this one down mostly due to immaturity (or stupidity) and where it says "to learn the plight of all endangered animals...but mostly hippos" or something like that...theres hundreds of species that are actually endangered that are much worse off than hippos...i just think this whole thing is really dumb
If this gets approved then we might as well vote for April 20th (4/20) to be International Iguana Day.
I like iguanas... but my nations animal is the penguin... lets go all out and give everyone's animal a day...
I am frankly disgusted. I joined the UN with the intent of having a place to vote on current, contoroversial issues. Even though some are poorly worded, they are more relevant to what this organization is for. Keep the humor to the humor to the forums, that what they're for. I voted against this resolution.
my god, i can't even believe that this was passed for us to even VOTE for!! it is ridiculous!!! :evil:
Wrynne Dynn votes Helllll no.
Goobergunchia
13-12-2003, 04:09
With all due respect, I vote AGAINST. We do not feel that this resolution is appropriate for this august body. If the proposal was raised as a generic (non-species-specific) proposal, we could support it. However, we do not know why hippos should be singled out as a special species of interest.
Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Founder of the DU Region
Votes For: 2251
Votes Against: 4017
This is absolutely stupid can anyone take the UN seriously anymore if this resolution passes? i dont think i can, neither will any of my constituents which i represent! vote it down and lets propose better things to help out our nations.
Omzian Democratic Federal Republic is deeply disappointed by the acceptance of this senseless resoultion by inexperienced delegates from The Orion Nebula by the UN. It just seems that the resolution qualities are going down everyday, every moment.
By all means, we vote AGAINST. Relating to that, we are also suprised that 2296 (as of the timestamp of this post) delegates to the UN voted FOR.
Foreign Affairs Ministry
OOC: Note - the above is only my in-game opinion, not my personal opinion.
imported_Squintyville
13-12-2003, 04:52
How can this be the stupidest proposal when the World Heritage list and Freedom of Humor actually PASSED this body.
No, I, Lord Chancey Wigglesbottom III stand with the Hippos.
I'm nice to endangered species!
Squintyville votes AYE!
The Class A Cows
13-12-2003, 04:53
Hippos assist the enviroment largely due to the fact that they defecate into ponds, releasing undigested plant fibers into the water that fish feed on.
Vote NO on "HIPPOS ARE REALLY QUITE LARGE" or we will be knee deep in feces every hippo day as we allow them into our schools.
Our nation is amazed, that while other nations stand by and vote for poorly written and legislatively redundant proposals, that they could be so vehemently opposed to a proposal that is actually well written and adds a little fun to our lives. Humor is not frivolous or ignoble; rather it adds a necessary and delightful dimension to life in NationStates.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Some of the recent proposals were just horrible. Everyone remembers the national park bill that potentially allowed you to declare the entire world a national park? Well, this is like that, except not dangerous.
Thespian Way
13-12-2003, 05:07
It amazes me that as far as I can see, not one person thus far has noticed that the first Thursday this year after the Solstice is already
designated for Christmas Goose and visions of Sugar Plums etc.
Find another less crowded day for Hippo's and you might get more votes.
March, June or August might be a better time don't you think? :?:
Thespian Way
13-12-2003, 05:09
What do all you people have against the poor Hippos? Is it really so much to ask to set aside one day to merely recognize the Hippos? Subaquaria has proudly voted in favor of the Hippo resolution.
-President of Subaquaria
The Happy Nation Under The Sea
What do all you people have against the poor Hippos? Is it really so much to ask to set aside one day to merely recognize the Hippos? Besides, the bill is not poorly written - it is in fact excellently written, containing such phrases as "let it be resolved" and "whereas." And come on... have a sense of humor.
Subaquaria has proudly voted in favor of the Hippo resolution.
-President of Subaquaria
The Happy Nation Under The Sea
What do all you people have against the poor Hippos? Is it really so much to ask to set aside one day to merely recognize the Hippos? Besides, the bill is not poorly written - it is in fact excellently written, containing such phrases as "let it be resolved" and "whereas." And come on... have a sense of humor.
Subaquaria has proudly voted in favor of the Hippo resolution.
-President of Subaquaria
The Happy Nation Under The Sea
Soviet Haaregrad
13-12-2003, 05:16
I say we refuse to recognize this bill and no one vote for it. Everyone retract your vote for the hippo bill.
imported_Puffinstuff
13-12-2003, 05:28
The Principality of Puffinstuff is happy to see that somebody has taken it upon himself (or herself) to create a genuinely well-written resolution. The resolution is in proper form, with few actual grammatical errors (if any).
Why did it have to be such an utterly silly resolution?
I'm voting against it: mainly because elephants are funnier, but also because it's so silly.
However, if the authors will change the word "hippo" to "elephant" (or better yet, "manatee"), I may reconsider.
By the way, hello to you too.
:twisted: Lets get all the hippos together on one island and kill them all with nukes. If any nation refuses to do so will also be nuked. :twisted:
Geez, this is so awful. It seems as if people think the UN on Nation States is a real entity that "has to be serious" and such... IT'S A GAME!!!
Get over it people... I would like to repost another's message that I completely agree with, and I think everyone should reread...
<quote>Our nation is amazed, that while other nations stand by and vote for poorly written and legislatively redundant proposals, that they could be so vehemently opposed to a proposal that is actually well written and adds a little fun to our lives. Humor is not frivolous or ignoble; rather it adds a necessary and delightful dimension to life in NationStates.
We whole-heartedly endorse the Hippo Proposal and urge other UN members to do the same.
- Garbanzo Villa-Gibraltar de la Corn Palace, Associate Vice Minister for Public Support of International Bibliophilic Informatics, Most Serene Republic of Etanistan</quote>
And ALSO, Hello!
If it was funny to blow up the moon, would it be. Just because something is funny does not make it right.
BLARGistania
13-12-2003, 05:36
the proposal is actually kinda funny, I'd vote for it just because it would not effect anything except for the fact that a somewhat humorous resolution was passed.
What rejects thought this stupid thing up, what drugs were they on and can I have some?
But seriously this has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read on here.
:twisted:
If it passes, I'm leaving the UN.
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Moontian
13-12-2003, 05:42
I am opposed to the hippo bill, mainly because there are no hippos in Moontian, but also because I do not want to see another environmental issue just yet. There have been plenty recently, and I would like to see one that actually BENEFITS industry, instead of killing it.
It seems the only support for this resolution is "it's a joke, lighten up!" If this is the case then why should we pass it?
Wow. All I can say is LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP! and pardon my language, please. All of you people who are saying that this is stupid can just pull the sticks outta your ass and have some fun. NS is a role play site where you roel play that you own a country. It's nothing serious. I'm sure the UN has had to vote on stupid stuff before and if something like this did pass it'd be ridiculous to leave the UN because of it. For real people... I mean get a grip.
Now for the unserious part of my rant:
Put yourself in the place of a hippo. You'd want a day too.
Krizith votes YES to hippos.
King Binks
13-12-2003, 06:13
If it passes, I'm leaving the UN.
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What purpose does that serve? It does nothing much to hurt your country. With an attidude like that however; I would rather see you leave the UN.
If anyone is curious as to why the Moderators didn't delete this proposal, don't be. There are threads in both this forum and Moderation which deal with the issue ad nauseam.
BIteland
13-12-2003, 06:17
the first thing i thought of when i read this resalution is why, why in the hell are we wasting are time with useless resulutions like this.
King Binks
13-12-2003, 06:18
the first thing i thought of when i read this resalution is why, why in the hell are we wasting are time with useless resulutions like this.
Humor? I admit if that was in the real world UN, I would most likely jump off a cliff but this is a game, and some fun never hurt anyone. Looks as its going to be turned down though anyways...
Froggertopia
13-12-2003, 06:25
If this gets approved then we might as well vote for April 20th (4/20) to be International Iguana Day.
The Freeland of Froggertopia would gladly support a measure that gave homage to any fellow herpetofauna. :lol:
While the hippo resolution is written in a funny (and corny) way, the resolution is really trying to promote environmental awareness and education, which are important issues. Please vote yes for the hippos and for the environment.
Honestly, folks, I think you're all looking a little bit TOO hard at the humor, and not enough at the resolution itself. The author used some higher level humor, thinking maybe people could handle it, but it seems as if few can, and are bashing the bill simply because it is beyond their comprehension. The bill is sound, and although it focuses on hippos, the essence of the bill is the promotion of environmental awareness (as a simplification to those who got confused by the hippo references; they were supposed to be funny, by the way). I am a fan of this bill; it's well written, its amusing, and it promotes what I feel to be a good cause. I must say, folks, some of you need to lighten up; this is supposed to be fun, and I'm glad to see someone has taken the initaitive to make the game even more interesting.
imported_Greater Ivarian
13-12-2003, 08:29
this resolution is one of the saner resolutions to come about in a long while, and if it DOESN'T pass I may finally have to resign from the UN on the grounds that most of its voting members are completely INSANE!
I cant believe this turd is even getting as much attention as it already has...
It it were funny...instead of just stupid....i could see it..
But...its not.
This is further proof that people will vote for anything they see.
I had no idea teletubbies made it to the net...
It looks like the person spent a lot of time on that, and what people are saying here is probably hurting their feelings. That being said, its the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. Whoever wrote it has to be tripping on acid or have severe mental handicaps. Since Im pretty sure its the first one, lets rip them a new asshole.
Roycelandia
13-12-2003, 10:56
The Empire of Roycelandia is unable to support any Hippo-saving resolution. Indeed, in many parts of Palm Islands Hippos are an out-of-control pest and sizeable bounties are paid for their killing.
Indeed, should this issue pass the Armies of Roycelandia will be ordered to hunt down and execute every single Hippo in the country. Any person caught trying to implement, encourage, or celebrate any Hippo related events in Roycelandia will be either deported, viciously bashed, or executed without trial.
Furthermore, the Empire of Roycelandia expresses deep concern over this frivolous waste of the UN's time for a trivial, irrelevant, and frankly childish issue.
OOC: I see the humour in the resolution, but good RP etiquette requires me to stay in character, and therefore I am voting against it. Especially since so many well-thought out, pertinent, and interesting proposals never gain enough votes to become Resolutions in the first place.
The UN should worry about more important things than hippos...
Vote no.
The Nibbleton UN Minister's Official Statement:
Nibbleton feels disheartened that this proposal wasn't removed before it came to voting. This shows that the serious parts of NationStates are breaking down and giving way to mere silliness.
We feel that "Freedom of Humor" is a very important thing. However, this does not include "Freedom to waste the UN's time."
For This reason, Nibbleton is refusing to vote either for or agaisnt this proposal, as we do not feel it is worth our time and consideration.
The Opressed Peoples of Nibbleton
I think we need to come together and make a proposal banning all silly nonsense from getting into the UN for voting.
The People of Inebriatedonkies and Pittaland are at this very moment crying into their soggy beds at the severe lack of senses of humour within the UN. To quote several other, slightly more intelligent people... LIGHTEN THE F--- UP. This is a GAME. This is not REALITY. Please learn to distinguish them, before you find yourself becoming more and more absorbed into the game until you start calling yourself by your nations name and trying to declare war on your friends.
If this resolution isn't passed I will personally hunt every single person down who voted against it and throw hippos at them... very hard. The hippos are in pain, people, how can you not recognise that?
Oh, and that's ignoring the fact that this is probably the first resolution I've seen which is framed properly and actually says something, on a purely technical level, this is the best resolution ever.
ALSO ALSO hello
The People of Inebriatedonkies and Pittaland are at this very moment crying into their soggy beds at the severe lack of senses of humour within the UN.
We have a sense of humor, and we realise that this is a game. However, we do like parts of the game to remain serious. This isnt a "control the blob over the block" game, this is a "Create and run your own nation game." Therefore, we would like the UN at least to remain serious.
In addition, You have no business posting here, as your nation is not a UN member.
OOC: To quote several other, slightly more intelligent people... SHUT THE F--- UP. This is not "the best resolution ever," this is a pointless resolution by someone who thought they would be clever by making a resolution about an animal with an amusing-sounding name.
Completly disagree, this is easily one of the funniest things I've read in a while, all of you just can't stand to be mocked once. Though it did have a few points that would be taken seriously, as in improving zoos and wildlife protection.
This is great.But we have larger issues than saving a bunch of hippos.I like hippos but we still have to go through globas dissarment and comunal problems.Concentrate on that matter.
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Kill them before they kill you!!!
Breed bigger crocodiles to rid us of the Hippo problem!!
Drakosovar
13-12-2003, 15:18
We of Drakosovar cannot help but feel that you people are weird. The protests against this proposal because it is intended to be humourous are staggering. The UN surely is a comedic institution, after all no right thinking international body would remove a nation's right to use torture as a means of interrogation and landmines as a defence. We assumed both of these proposals were an ill thought through and slightly tasteless joke.
Hippos on the other hand are a vastly underrated species. They have many uses, from beast of burden to machine of war and they have every right to be recognised in some kind of formal matter. The fact that Hippo awareness day would replace an anachronistic little-remembered religious holiday is entirely appropriate in these troubled times.
However the undercurrent of environmental awareness that runs through this bill means we cannot support it.
Drakos, Chief Minister in Charge of Hippo Warfare, Drakosovar
The Orion Nebula
13-12-2003, 15:37
I say we refuse to recognize this bill and no one vote for it. Everyone retract your vote for the hippo bill.
Excellent Advice, everyone voting against the proposal, please take note.
I don't know whether to vote against the proposal or for it because I am the UN delegate for my region and I don't want to set a bad example for voting for voting on the wrong side. Which should I do? :?
Do what you think is right, then no one can blame you except yourself. Burn HIPPOS!!!
Xerxes Xavier
13-12-2003, 15:55
I can't believe there's a 4 page debate over HIPPOS... anyone in their right mind wouldn't support a 'Hippo Day' - There are far more important issues that could be dealt with...come on....HIPPOS.. see the light people!
Im voting against, Id rather see the hippos die. Hippos are dangerous territorial creatures that kill humans on sight, and have for thousands of years. The ancient egyptians knew how to handle the hippos, see any attacking anyone, send a hunting party to kill them :twisted:
i have said this before, and am not afreid to say it again.
why can't the un focus on more important issues? we shouldn't have to go to the trouble to try to pass stupid bills like something about hippos. why can't we focus on economy, human rights, health care, military, etc.
it's time to stop such time-wasting bills.
i am intending to start a bill to stop such bills. if anyone has any suggestions to be included, drop me a telagram, thanks.
Although we support the environment, and applaud nations who elect to preserve wildlife, including hippopatami, we cannot support one animal over another and feel this resolution is overbroad in its application. If we wish to encourage evironmental preservation, let's do so in a more specific and less frivolous way.
The other issue in the resolution, the furtherance of humor, has already been addressed - humor is welcome in our region, the Pacific Isles, but this resolution is before the leaders of our World. There is a time and place for levity - it should not be here, at the UN.
The Mighty Republic of Peri urges you to vote AGAINST this resolution.
Bourgeois Corp
13-12-2003, 19:22
Memo
To: The Honourable Assembly of the UN
From: Holly Vanderkampf, Environmental Division, Bourgeois Corp
Dear Honourable Members of the UN,
We at Bourgeois Corp have dedicated a great deal of time and money into the preservation of our own national animal, the crane. We have neither the time, nor funding to begin a UN sanctioned campaign to save an animal that is not indiginous to our country.
Moreover, our Global Services Division has looked over this piece of legislation and discovered that it is worded in such a way as it would cut into our national industries a great deal, and this is something that our current company direction frowns upon. Our economy is our current focus, not our environment.
As such we here at Bourgeois Corp must respectfully vote against the current resolution. Furthermore, by corporate directive, we will resign from the UN in protest rather than pass such a biased, and unfair resolution should it appear that it will be passed.
Sincerely,
Holly Vanderkampf
Director of the Environment
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: If this passes, I'm not only resigning from the un, but I'm not going back to nation states. :tantrum:
Ladies and Gentlemen of the NSUN, I ask why we must be forced to endure the foolishness and puerility of such fools as these who would ask us in all good conscience to vote for a Hippo Awareness Day? This kind of idiocy saddens me deeply to learn that it can pass, yet my proposal to Standardise Limits of Global Emissions was barely able to garner 70 votes. I will not resign from the UN if this passes, (and I hope for our sake it does not), but I know there are many otherwise good nations out there who will, and I will lose much of my faith in the cause of our establishment if this goes to fruition.
Emberlon
13-12-2003, 19:53
The Kingdom of Emberlon does not think the UN is in a position to regulate environmental propaganda, especially not to the benefit of a species which may or may not be endangered in every country in the world. Different nations have different priorities, and many nations do not have the funds to support such a program. Other countries may choose to support the economy of their people at the cost of the environment. It is the choice of every individual nation to support the environment in whatever way they choose. It is not the UN's place to mandate such a resolution. The Kingdom of Emberlon does not support the current UN resolution.
Alsace, Chief Political Advisor
on behalf of Crown Prince Viorel Ekaterin
The Orion Nebula
13-12-2003, 20:30
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: If this passes, I'm not only resigning from the un, but I'm not going back to nation states. :tantrum:
Please tell this to as many people as possible!
The Orion Nebula
13-12-2003, 20:31
If this gets approved then we might as well vote for April 20th (4/20) to be International Iguana Day.
The Freeland of Froggertopia would gladly support a measure that gave homage to any fellow herpetofauna. :lol:
Also iguana are green.
The Orion Nebula
13-12-2003, 20:39
The People of Inebriatedonkies and Pittaland are at this very moment crying into their soggy beds at the severe lack of senses of humour within the UN. To quote several other, slightly more intelligent people... LIGHTEN THE F--- UP. This is a GAME. This is not REALITY. Please learn to distinguish them, before you find yourself becoming more and more absorbed into the game until you start calling yourself by your nations name and trying to declare war on your friends.
If this resolution isn't passed I will personally hunt every single person down who voted against it and throw hippos at them... very hard. The hippos are in pain, people, how can you not recognise that?
Oh, and that's ignoring the fact that this is probably the first resolution I've seen which is framed properly and actually says something, on a purely technical level, this is the best resolution ever.
ALSO ALSO hello
Thanks very much for the kind words of support, Pittaland.
ALSO "Nibbleton" is a funny sounding name.
ALSO, "ALSO ALSO hello," to you also.
The hippo is a big, fat, noble beast and for that reason is a metaphorical universal representative of the entire animal kingdom. A vote for hippos is a vote for every mouse, llama, katydid, penguin and clam on Earth!
Also hippos have the highest percentage of enviromental activists in the animal kingdom and therefore have earned the right to a Day of Acknowledgement, although this certainly does not mean that other animals should not have their own day.
The Allied States of Sylon respects the intent and content of the current proposal. However, we have a vigorous environmental protection program of our own already, and we do not feel that it is the NSUN's place to dictate specific environmental policies to individual nations. Therefore, we respectfully vote against the proposal, though we sincerely hope that individual nations work to increase hippo populations where needed.
- Steven Fox, Ambassador to the UN from the Allied States of Sylon
Coltlandia refuses to support such a silly proposal, on the grounds that a lot of really cool and important stuff never gets any consideration anyway.
Besides, there aren't any Hippos in Coltlandia. We shot them all.
The federation of Friedylvania condemns the insults directed at what is a positive step towards helping the less fortunate animals. Liberals go on all the time about saving the whales, while hippos are left to rot, simply because they are only the second or third largest. For shame - what family of nations is this that caters only to its favoured sons, while those few who fail to meet its ideal appearance are castigated and mocked for their shoes. I recall reading in a popular online newspaper produced in my nation that Milton Bradley has recently pledged food aid for certain hungry, hungry hippoes. If the cold hearts win out in this one, then I call on them to at least bring consistency to the heart of United Nations policy: the next time somebody wants to help cute seals, or tall giraffes, I call on this body - if it rejects this bill - to apply the same heartless principles. For there is but one thing this body holds up more than compassion - and that value is the steadfast support of due procedure.
Ackbar1001
14-12-2003, 08:49
Honestly, folks, I think you're all looking a little bit TOO hard at the humor, and not enough at the resolution itself. The author used some higher level humor, thinking maybe people could handle it, but it seems as if few can, and are bashing the bill simply because it is beyond their comprehension. The bill is sound, and although it focuses on hippos, the essence of the bill is the promotion of environmental awareness (as a simplification to those who got confused by the hippo references; they were supposed to be funny, by the way). I am a fan of this bill; it's well written, its amusing, and it promotes what I feel to be a good cause. I must say, folks, some of you need to lighten up; this is supposed to be fun, and I'm glad to see someone has taken the initaitive to make the game even more interesting.
Great post. You seemed, and you should be, that people are so elitist that they can’t see their own agenda in the proposal, so they vote against it. It is kind of sickening that people vote against something specifically because it does not use the wording they would choose. This from nations who actually claim to be pro-environment.
I think we need to come together and make a proposal banning all silly nonsense from getting into the UN for voting.
You, and the autonomous posts by those like you, did not read the propsal. That or the proposal is too smart for you, which I doubt.
How about this, for all who disagree with the proposal because it is about hippos, go back and actually read it this time. This is not really a prop-hippo resolution, it is a pro-environment resolution.
And if you are against environmental resolutions, after you contact Haliburton, consider the benefits of actually lifting you social stats.
Emberlon
14-12-2003, 10:31
I agree, if you are going to vote against this proposal because it's about hippos, or because it's silly, please do read it again. It's not about hippos, it's a pro-environment proposal with a spin on it intended to make it entertaining.
I just do not think it is within the jurasdiction of the UN to mandate environmental propaganda.
1) It's too specific. The specifications of the proposal will not work in every country. There's also not enough leeway to taylor it to wide ranges of government types and still be within the law, if it's passed.
2) Some countries need jobs more than they need a rainforest. People are more important than hippos. I'm sorry, that's just the priorities most humans have.
3) Some countries need money more than they need a rainforest. Hippos don't pay taxes. People do. That's the way life is.
4) The UN is there to ensure that countries get along and that all the people in the world are treated humanely. Environmental concerns have very little to do with the UN. Propaganda, as long as the people of a country are not mistreated, also has very little to do with the UN. The UN cannot make other countries spread pro-environment propaganda much in the same way the UN cannot force nations to open a propaganda campaign convincing citizens that Santa is real. It's not their job.
People, I implore you not to vote for this resolution. It is very well-written and I appreciate the humor with which it was presented, but it is very liberal and idealistic and, has nothing to do with human rights. This is just one step toward making the UN into a massive Father Knows Best state. Next you know, the UN will be mandating a socialist health care system.
Alsace, Chief Political Advisor
States of Stephenson
14-12-2003, 10:35
The States of Stephenson believe that this proposal is one of the most useless documents ever produced by the United Nations. Please vote this resolution down so that the UN can escape with some dignity. By decree of His Royal Highness, the States of Stephenson have voted against this resolution. Please do the same.
King Bradley I
The States of Stephenson
I agree, if you are going to vote against this proposal because it's about hippos, or because it's silly, please do read it again. It's not about hippos, it's a pro-environment proposal with a spin on it intended to make it entertaining.
I just do not think it is within the jurasdiction of the UN to mandate environmental propaganda.
1) It's too specific. The specifications of the proposal will not work in every country. There's also not enough leeway to taylor it to wide ranges of government types and still be within the law, if it's passed.
2) Some countries need jobs more than they need a rainforest. People are more important than hippos. I'm sorry, that's just the priorities most humans have.
3) Some countries need money more than they need a rainforest. Hippos don't pay taxes. People do. That's the way life is.
4) The UN is there to ensure that countries get along and that all the people in the world are treated humanely. Environmental concerns have very little to do with the UN. Propaganda, as long as the people of a country are not mistreated, also has very little to do with the UN. The UN cannot make other countries spread pro-environment propaganda much in the same way the UN cannot force nations to open a propaganda campaign convincing citizens that Santa is real. It's not their job.
People, I implore you not to vote for this resolution. It is very well-written and I appreciate the humor with which it was presented, but it is very liberal and idealistic and, has nothing to do with human rights. This is just one step toward making the UN into a massive Father Knows Best state. Next you know, the UN will be mandating a socialist health care system.
Alsace, Chief Political Advisor
Thank you for the post, i think this summarizes my view on this issue better than I could have. As highly as some countries may regard saving the environment, this issue has little to do with interhuman relations Although countries have the full right to freely impose whatever liberal propaganda laws they wish, enforcing such laws in other countries (with different priorities) abuses the power of the United Nations, so until or unless one nation starts killing the hippoes of another country,such interference threatens the rights of the leaders of UN nations to enforce their own domestic policies according to the well-being of their own nation and their own sense of judgment on these ethical topics.
just a bit of advice:
if you think the hippo thing is a load of b****cks then don't vote on it.
i'm not...
:roll: :?:
The Orion Nebula
14-12-2003, 21:07
Next you know, the UN will be mandating a socialist health care system.
Good idea! How about we call it "MY HYENA HAS A WET HACKING COUGH"?
I dont find this resolution funny.
In response to all those who say LIGHTEN THE F--K UP, I have to say this. I consider myself a fairly light person. I enjoy having fun and goofing off with my friends just as much as the next guy. At the same time I enjoy a serious political debate. I enjoy arguing a stance about issues that are pertinent to current events. That is why I joined the UN. Even though we are having a large debate on how stupid or not stupid this resolution is, it isnt that interesting. Even though the resolution on torture was badly worded it still ws much more interesting than this resolution. Leave the fun to the forums and the various region chats. Leave the UN for us that want to have a serious chat about things.
THis is so stuipid! I can't believe they let this is be voted for. There is a diference between humour and just plain stupid. :x
The Orion Nebula
15-12-2003, 02:21
THis is so stuipid! I can't believe they let this is be voted for. There is a diference between humour and just plain stupid. :x
When you're educated enough to know the difference, give me a call.
Well, most leaders already do that, unless it makes them out of character. The purpose of this debate lies in encouraging the proposal's supporters to rethink their decision.
If you feel it necessary to announce to the world that you have a sense of humor, you probably don't.
Ackbar1001
15-12-2003, 14:18
I agree, if you are going to vote against this proposal because it's about hippos, or because it's silly, please do read it again. It's not about hippos, it's a pro-environment proposal with a spin on it intended to make it entertaining.
True that.
Some countries need money more than they need a rainforest. Hippos don't pay taxes. People do. That's the way life is.
I would be for a resolution proposing a tax on Hippos, so this is not nec. The case.
4) The UN is there to ensure that countries get along and that all the people in the world are treated humanely. Environmental concerns have very little to do with the UN. Propaganda, as long as the people of a country are not mistreated, also has very little to do with the UN. The UN cannot make other countries spread pro-environment propaganda much in the same way the UN cannot force nations to open a propaganda campaign convincing citizens that Santa is real. It's not their job. [/quote]
!) The UN doess have a place when it comes to world-wide environmentalism. Without wading into the waters of propaganda, it is simply common sense that a lot of basis for environmentalism is preservation of life, including human life. 2) Suggesting that environment be preserved is not propaganda on it’s own. It is simply a matter of looking at the effect that this has on the world and humans and such. C) Please leave Santa out of this.
People, I implore you not to vote for this resolution. It is very well-written and I appreciate the humor with which it was presented, but it is very liberal and idealistic and, has nothing to do with human rights. This is just one step toward making the UN into a massive Father Knows Best state. Next you know, the UN will be mandating a socialist health care system.
Alsace, Chief Political Advisor
I strongly disagree with your end results, but I appreciate your rationality and appreciation for humor, even if not for other issues I may feel are important.