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NO!!!!!! IM TRYING TO BE A CRAZY DICTATOR BUT I CAN'T DO THAT WHEN HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR HUMAN RIGHTS ETC.....! SO STOP IT! ANY DICTATOR OR CONSUMERISTS PLEASE VOTE !~*AGAINST*~! THE NEWEST RESOLUTION TO OUTLAW TORTURE THAT HAS A STRONG EFFECT ON HUMAN RIGHTS. PLEASE CONVINCE OTHERS TOO.

Agreed. The Kingdom of Skullzz will not take part in the banning of such a beautiful art as torture. I have voted against the resolution, but I fear it may be in vain. The ignorant masses of the world seem to believe human rights are the answer to all their problems. Human rights will be our undoing. Should this resolution pass, The Kingdom of Skullzz will leave the UN and allow a lesser nation to become regional delegate.

every nation should be ruled by a single minded dictatorship governement. WITHOUT HUMAN RIGHTS EVERYONE!

Wow, you corrupt dictators really ~ARE~ idiots

If this act goes through, what will I do in my spare time between starving my people and going to war?
:(

Wow, you corrupt dictators really ~ARE~ idiots

The Kingdom of Skullzz is a PSYCHOTIC dictatorship. Who's the idiot now? :twisted:

Not to mention i was psychotic to. EMPHASIS ON WAS!

The people of Jaru no likea the torcher... Weze vote no torcher..

The people of Jaru no likea the torcher... Weze vote no torcher..


The people of Jaru should consider the safety of their puny nation when they vote on UN resolutions. :twisted:

We don't like the torcher but we do like the torching

Weze herd dat befor...Weze still here...

Weze herd dat befor...Weze still here...

You would think differently if you sent your highest government officials for a stay in one of Skullzz's pristine resorts. I think the beachside "Lament of Thousands of Tortured Souls" would be an excellent getaway. On me, what do you think?

If you come to Jaru you would find it not so easy to take...It is a rugged land..With a rugged and Native people...But still a people of the 21st century..You would not find it so easy..

Bombers handle rugged terrain well, mortal.

I said we were a 21st century people.. We have a high tech automated National Security screen... We might not do it ourselves but we dont mind sending out the robots..Superior technology always wins..

I said we were a 21st century people.. We have a high tech automated National Security screen... We might not do it ourselves but we dont mind sending out the robots..Superior technology always wins..

You are a nation of 5 million people. Surely you don't consider yourself a match for a nation of 405 million? :lol: I can easily field a soldier for every citizen of your nation, and then some. Your mobile trash cans will not last five minutes against the Kingdom of Skullzz. :twisted:

If this act goes through, what will I do in my spare time between starving my people and going to war?
:(

They merely need to see psychiatrists... then they'll be all right.

also because we are where your army's generals are getting their drugs and women and we have pictures..

also because we are where your army's generals are getting their drugs and women and we have pictures..

:lol: You think you can blackmail the Kingdom? My nations generals get superior drugs and women to yours, and that's a known fact. :twisted:

I would suggest you read the pinned thread in International Incidents about godmoding before you continue attempting to threaten me.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15957

Have a vid of your VP in bed with your wife..

If you don't agree with the UN quit. it's that simple

Not only is this resolution daft in what it calls for but the implacations of it could do if passed is great. This is useless for who would impose the fine on the country that uses torture. Then along with that a life is now just worth a fine that is imposed after death. If anything this resolution needs to be redone to have stronger powers for it to have an use anywhere. Though don't do that for what it wants to do now it is too strong. The UN was set up to help the nations of this server come to terms with their problems. It was not created to invade the soverginty of the member nations and impose the will of other nations on lesser ones. The banning of landmine I was and is against though it had world implacations. This on the other hand deals with the internal running of the nation. It interfers with the way I want to get testomoy and how I wish to run my court system. You, the people wishing to pass this, want to come in and tell me how to run my nation. This is something I will not have. :!: I ask that all nations vote against this resolution not because they disagree with it but because it seeks to curb our nations independence. :!:

Have a vid of your VP in bed with your wife..

Your futile attempts at blackmail are nothing short of amusing. Skullzz is currently unmarried, your lies are worse than those of the American they call Bush. And we have no Vice President either! Skullzz alone is leader, there is no Vice Skullzz! :lol: Quit while you still can, Jaru. I would hate to have to destroy you with such impunity.

EDIT: Quote added for clarity.

I could get you better drugs at a cheeper price maby in exchange for a favor or two??? Nudge nudge...

I could get you better drugs at a cheeper price maby in exchange for a favor or two??? Nudge nudge...

I thought I already told you to be careful with your negotiations with the Kingdom. Our nation does not need your drugs, and you're lucky you're even in a position to ask for favors. I think an apology from the government of Jaru is in order if they truly value the lives of their citizens.

Got the best pot the coastal mountians of Jaru can grow..

A humble appology from Jaru..We only wish to kiss your but and sell you goods..But please do not tourcher..The Gods get angry at that and make us act..

See our goods.They are all made i our native way of life and show our native traditions..Are they not beautiful?

A humble appology from Jaru..We only wish to kiss your but and sell you goods..But please do not tourcher..The Gods get angry at that and make us act..

Your gods are powerless against an atheist Kingdom. We torture as an art form, and all we ask is that our art be respected. Is it so much to ask that our artists are respected?

See our goods.They are all made i our native way of life and show our native traditions..Are they not beautiful?

They are quite interesting. The symmetry of the patterns on them is exquisite.

many have gone against the Gods in their silver sailing ships in the sky..And many have lost... It was they who gave us the sheild..

You se the round disks in our art..Those are the sky ships of the Gods..

You se the round disks in our art..Those are the sky ships of the Gods..

Your nation's mythology intrigues me.

Your gods are powerless against an atheist Kingdom. We torture as an art form, and all we ask is that our art be respected. Is it so much to ask that our artists are respected?
The Whole of the Grand and Soverign People's Republic of Sildonia Does State in One Unwavering Voice:
How can this torturing be art? You can not hang it up in a museum (or at least only for a short while before decomposition).

- Viktor Annar, Sildonia's Chief Minister of International Relations
in conjucture with
Mikholt Storbog, Sildonia's Chief Minister of the Arts and Sciences.

Art is sacrid in Jaru..

The Whole of the Grand and Soverign People's Republic of Sildonia Does State in One Unwavering Voice:
How can this torturing be art? You can not hang it up in a museum (or at least only for a short while before decomposition).

- Viktor Annar, Sildonia's Chief Minister of International Relations
in conjucture with
Mikholt Storbog, Sildonia's Chief Minister of the Arts and Sciences.

We do not have museums. We have public access dungeons. Photographs are taken of torture victims and those are put in foriegn art galleries.

Art is sacrid in Jaru..

Art is sacred in Skullzz. Torture is our artistic expression, can you see the common ground we have reached here? We see things differently, but it turns out we are not all that different.

Humans have rights? Why didn't I get the memo?

You se the round disks in our art..Those are the sky ships of the Gods..

Your nation's mythology intrigues me.

Tis not Mythology... I myself have been on these ships.. I myself comand the Jaru Fleet... Thus my present state as head of Jaru...Course election is comeing up.So I might losse that possion.Ah well.Its only a figure head possion anyway..

Humans have rights? Why didn't I get the memo?

:roll: Tell me about it!

Tis not Mythology... I myself have been on these ships.. I myself comand the Jaru Fleet... Thus my present state as head of Jaru...Course election is comeing up.So I might losse that possion.Ah well.Its only a figure head possion anyway..

Elections? Why, if you did away with elections, you could retain your power as spokesperson for your gods eternally! :wink:

Humans have rights? Why didn't I get the memo?

:roll: Tell me about it!
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They only exist if other people acknowledge them. Some choose to do so and others not.

Are you (and the UN that CANNOT have a military) going to force people into your ways?

Art is sacrid in Jaru..

Art is sacred in Skullzz. Torture is our artistic expression, can you see the common ground we have reached here? We see things differently, but it turns out we are not all that different.

Yes indeed..I see the art in tourcher.But I see it from the prespective of one who has been tourchered..And the chilling prespective in which I veiw my oppressor.. For them a hell of insanity from wich they can not escape. A deep abismal darkness for witch there is no end.. Hell for everlasting an longing thirst thant can not be quencheed.. oh great sowows of misery never ending.. LOL

Tis not Mythology... I myself have been on these ships.. I myself comand the Jaru Fleet... Thus my present state as head of Jaru...Course election is comeing up.So I might losse that possion.Ah well.Its only a figure head possion anyway..

Elections? Why, if you did away with elections, you could retain your power as spokesperson for your gods eternally! :wink:


Cuz the people get what they want not what I want..

Humans have rights? Why didn't I get the memo?

:roll: Tell me about it!
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They only exist if other people acknowledge them. Some choose to do so and others not.

Are you (and the UN that CANNOT have a military) going to force people into your ways?

I force nobody to abide by my rules. I do not push my ways onto neighboring nations, and my own citizens are free to leave at any time. Obviously, considering my 405 million and growing population, the people do not have a problem with my ruthless leadership.

For starters this is a blatant offense against national sovereignity. Secondly, how is the UN going to prove any of this or create an agency that will ferret out all those nations? Thirdly, who are these idiots who right this drivel up? I've read tabloids that bear more merit than the current crop of UN resolutions.

I force nobody to abide by my rules. I do not push my ways onto neighboring nations, and my own citizens are free to leave at any time. Obviously, considering my 405 million and growing population, the people do not have a problem with my ruthless leadership.

That's the whole nature of the resolution. It's "If you don't agree with it, SCREW YOU" and force people to comply.

For starters this is a blatant offense against national sovereignity. Secondly, how is the UN going to prove any of this or create an agency that will ferret out all those nations? Thirdly, who are these idiots who right this drivel up? I've read tabloids that bear more merit than the current crop of UN resolutions.

Thank you, this is a point that nobody understands. I am tired of being bullied by the UN, they should not have such control over what I do to my citizens in MY nation. I founded this nation, and have led it since its conception. NO international organization is going to tell me that I cannot allow torture. :evil:

For starters this is a blatant offense against national sovereignity. Secondly, how is the UN going to prove any of this or create an agency that will ferret out all those nations? Thirdly, who are these idiots who right this drivel up? I've read tabloids that bear more merit than the current crop of UN resolutions.

Not really..You have a choice as to wheather or not you want to be a member of the U.N. or not.. Non U.N. Members are not subject to U.N. law.

So much for "spreading democracy"

That's the whole nature of the resolution. It's "If you don't agree with it, SCREW YOU" and force people to comply.

And that is why I am so strongly against the resolution. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If this ridiculous resolution is to pass, I will leave the UN, and I will have to put the responsibility of UN Delegate of the Bowels of Hell on another set of shoulders.

I think some people are forgeting were playing a game here..Not talking about RL politics..

Life is merely a game on a larger scale.

If that is the case, shouldn't we be free to torture whomever, and whatever we want when we want? After all, "It's only a game"

democracy -the mistaken belief that more than half the people are right more than half the time. Someone told me that but I cant remember who.

I think some people are forgeting were playing a game here..Not talking about RL politics..

The world should consider itself fortunate that I confine my politics to a game. :twisted:

democracy -the mistaken belief that more than half the people are right more than half the time. Someone told me that but I cant remember who.

Thats why I prefer an anarchy..Where all the people are right all of the time..

I'd lean more to nihilism.

Dude, it posted three times.

If it came to it, blow up the world. "If I can't have it, no one can"

democracy -the mistaken belief that more than half the people are right more than half the time. Someone told me that but I cant remember who.

Thats why I prefer an anarchy..Where all the people are right all of the time..




You must mean where the survivor is right all the time.

democracy -the mistaken belief that more than half the people are right more than half the time. Someone told me that but I cant remember who.

Thats why I prefer an anarchy..Where all the people are right all of the time..

I prefer Ben Franklin:

"A Mob is a monster with many heads, but no brain."

Why do you think the Americans invented Federalism and limited governmental power?

If it came to it, blow up the world. "If I can't have it, no one can"

Your ways intrigue me. Our nations will surely get along well.

democracy -the mistaken belief that more than half the people are right more than half the time. Someone told me that but I cant remember who.

Thats why I prefer an anarchy..Where all the people are right all of the time..




You must mean where the survivor is right all the time.


Beleave it or not the best form of survival tactic is Co-operation...
It donts require a government to co-operate. Just the mutual understanding that your survival depends on being able to co-opwerate with youe neibhors..

Best survival tactic is to eliminate the competition.

Best survival tactic is to eliminate the competition.

Once again, you impress me.

That's world politics for you.

That's world politics for you.

Perhaps an alliance of sorts is in order?

Despite the fact that the original author of this thread is an insane dictator, he has a good point. National sovereignty is constantly being abused in NationStates. If the crazy dictator governments want to torture their citizens, they have that right. Plus, the resolution is the most poorly-worded piece of junk I've ever read, but that's a different issue. And don't try to tell me that we should just leave the UN if we don't like it. Everyone has to take a loss once in a while, but that doesn't mean we can't keep our opinions (and voice them too).

Despite the fact that the original author of this thread is an insane dictator, he has a good point. National sovereignty is constantly being abused in NationStates. If the crazy dictator governments want to torture their citizens, they have that right. Plus, the resolution is the most poorly-worded piece of junk I've ever read, but that's a different issue. And don't try to tell me that we should just leave the UN if we don't like it. Everyone has to take a loss once in a while, but that doesn't mean we can't keep our opinions (and voice them too).

Oh, but insanity is such the spice of life! Seriously, insane people are some of the most interesting people I have met.

nivekia is a young country attempting to ferret out dissenters who would alter the new government. without torture how would rebels be exposed and eliminated?

nivekia is a young country attempting to ferret out dissenters who would alter the new government. without torture how would rebels be exposed and eliminated?

Without torture, how will your citizens gain a newfound appreciation for your rule? :wink:

this resolution must not pass

Tortue is our national pastime.
We have a relaity show dedicated to it.

:twisted:

this resolution must not pass

:!: Hear Hear! The young nation of Nivekia has been noted as being a very sound minded nation.

Tortue is our national pastime.
We have a relaity show dedicated to it.

:twisted:

Excellent. :twisted:

without torture, there is no way to make those who wrong the just pay. if you are a UN nation you have an obligation to respect the needs of your fellow members and smack this proposal down.

If we continue to torture people, what is the UN going to do about it?