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HIPPOS ARE REALLY QUITE LARGE

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: The Orion Nebula

Description: PREAMBLE: The intent of the UN rules governing proposals is to insure that substantial issues are discussed. It is entirely just and proper that this should be so. Similarly, the intent of the Freedom of Humor Act, which recently passed the UN by an almost 4 to 1 margin, is to allow these issues to be discussed in an entertaining and amusing way. This too is entirely just and proper and will lead to a happier and more humane citizenry. The Whimsical Republic of the Orion Nebula is therefore proud to submit the following for consideration.

HIPPO AWARENESS DAY

WHEREAS, although Hippos are indeed quite large there exists some controversy as to whether they are the second or third largest land animal;

AND WHEREAS the Hippos are known to be distressed by the terrible way that mankind has treated the environment of the Earth;

AND WHEREAS Hippos are not only an endangered species but young Hippos are often mocked in junior high school for their ridiculous looking windbreakers, their large glasses and their round sneakers that resemble above-ground pools,

LET IT BE RESOLVED THAT each member nation of the United Nations declare the first Thursday following the Winter Solstice to be "Hippo Awareness Day".

AND LET IT BE FURTHER RESOLVED that each member nation shall create programs that, on this day, educate its populace to the plight of all endangered species, but mostly Hippos. These programs should also raise the environmental awareness of the citizenry and encourage conservation.

AND LET IT BE EVEN FURTHER RESOLVED that these programs should contain the information that HIPPOS ARE BIG to help them regain their rightful place as the Earth's second largest land animal. Also this could be best accomplished by encouraging people to visit the zoo to see Hippos in the flesh so they can understand just how big Hippos are. This would prevent hurt Hippo feelings when people, unfamiliar with the size of Hippos, say "Wow, Hippos are big!" as opposed to having a comfortable idea about the relative size of Hippos, which would cause them to say "Now, THAT is a big Hippo!" only in the presence of an overtly large representative of the species.

AND LET IT BE STILL FURTHER RESOLVED that the member nations of the UN are encouraged to broadcast a national telethon on Hippo Awareness Day to raise money for the establishment of national parks and wildlife sanctuaries.

ALSO hello.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 129 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Wed Dec 10 2003

I haven't made up my mind on this proposal yet. However, it did attain quorum before it was incorrectly deleted. Therefore, I would urge all delegates, notwithstanding their stance on the issue, to approve this proposal so as to reverse all effects of the deletion.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Founder of the DU Region

This is a stupid proposal.

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This is a stupid proposal.

Lord Evif leans over to the Letilan representative and quietly says:

Agreed, but it's only fair to allow it to re-reach quorum. Furthermore, at least this will crack down on business and hopefully de-Capitalizt me....

Only the most foolish of creatures would harass and annoy a hippo, known to be perhaps the single most vicious and dangerous land animal.

Oh wait, you were speaking of Junior High students. Well, that proves my point.

hippos? who cares about them. This is a stupid proposal. Especially since i hate enviromentalist proposals. VOTE AGAINST HUMAN RIGHTS PROPOSALS!!!!!!!

hippos? who cares about them. This is a stupid proposal. Especially since i hate enviromentalist proposals. VOTE AGAINST HUMAN RIGHTS PROPOSALS!!!!!!!

Here's some well crafted logic.

This is a stupid proposal.

"Bravo! Well said!"

--Javier Luft

I absolutely agree, and it's deletion EVEN AFTER REACHING QUORUM is an ABOMINATION.

I absolutely agree, and it's deletion EVEN AFTER REACHING QUORUM is an ABOMINATION.

Agreed, which is why we find Goobergunchia's suggestion quite thoughtful and noble (disregarding the rumors of whispered political ulterior motives).

The esteemed Mr. Cardin walks to the podium....

Fellow Representatives of the constitutents of the United Nations, I stand before you today. I admit that, perhaps this resolution is stupid, but when you think about it, this is the kind of thing that governments should be worrying about. This way, no rights are violated, and thus, the first "Hippos are Big" resolution is perhaps a milestone in Human Rights in that it took several vital days and dedicated them to mundane things and allowing people to live their own lives as they damn well please.

Liberty, my fellow representatives, is not glorious or showy. True liberty pales in comparison to tyranny and oppression. True liberty is not Patrick Henry's rousing oratory, though we certainly enjoy it, or the rhetorical brilliance of the Declaration of Independence. True liberty is squalid compared to the glory of oppression and the fight against fate to secure it. True liberty takes the form of things like the hippos are big resolutions. True liberty lies in the day-to-day lives of the citizenry.

Mr. Cardin sits down in his seat amist a standing ovation.

Hippo or Hippy?

I will approve the proposal, however only because is reached quorum before, and I don't think it was right that the mods deleted it.

I personally think that it will most likely get deleted like the previous two. :(

Deletion for idiocy should be cheered.

But he's right. Hippos are quite large.

Deletion for idiocy should be cheered.

The Collective politely submits a request that, upon the event of your nation's extinction, a notice be sent to our Executive office, so we may properly honor your wishes. We look forward to hearing from you.

Since we don't need two threads on the same resolution, I'm going to quote my original post from the other thread here, and request that the other thread be locked.

Hello everyone.

Due to an unfortunate misunderstanding, the proposal "HIPPOS ARE STILL BIG" was removed from the floor after it reached quorum.

The good news is that the situation has been resolved and the proposal has been resurrected as HIPPOS ARE REALLY QUITE LARGE. Unfortunately, it appears that those of you who supported the previous proposal will have to approve it again so that it can come to a vote. I apologize for the inconvenience.

For those of you just joining us, this proposal asks all UN Nations to take one day a year to educate their citizens on the environment, conservation and endangered species. Also some stuff about hippos. I hope you'll support it.

Thanks.

On what grounds was this one deleted?

On what grounds was this one deleted?

I was told that it was identical to the proposal "HIPPOS ARE BIG" which simply wasn't correct.

If you're interested in the whole painful story, there are threads entitled "HIPPOS ARE BIG" and "HIPPOS ARE STILL BIG" in moderation.

Thankfully, HIPPOS ARE REALLY QUITE LARGE lives on...

If you truly respect the traditional role of hippos then you must support The Defence of marriage Act!

The Defence of Marriage Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Free Outer Eugenia
Description:

Whereas;

The sacred institution of marriage has been under constant assault by an international conspiracy of Jewish Bolshevik bankers seeking to seduce our children with Marijuana and to undermine our Traditional Family Values;

Be It Resolved;

That Marriage be defined exclusively as the sacred bond between a hippo and a hummingbird.

If you truly respect the traditional role of hippos then you must support The Defence of marriage Act!

The Defence of Marriage Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Free Outer Eugenia
Description:

Whereas;

The sacred institution of marriage has been under constant assault by an international conspiracy of Jewish Bolshevik bankers seeking to seduce our children with Marijuana and to undermine our Traditional Family Values;

Be It Resolved;

That Marriage be defined exclusively as the sacred bond between a hippo and a hummingbird.

I was considering leaving the U.N. and if this proposal even touches the floor of the U.N. then BANG ! I'm gone. Not to mention the the fact the current anti-torture proposal is so non-detailed it can be read seven ways to sunday, geez, the U.N. should only have to deal with specific, well planned proposals, not this ignorant time wasting sh*t.

Good day Sir/Madam.

A Rep Of Komokom.

I'll endorse this, but only because it got deleted. Once it hits the floor, I am almost certainly against it.

If you truly respect the traditional role of hippos then you must support The Defence of marriage Act!

The Defence of Marriage Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Free Outer Eugenia
Description:

Whereas;

The sacred institution of marriage has been under constant assault by an international conspiracy of Jewish Bolshevik bankers seeking to seduce our children with Marijuana and to undermine our Traditional Family Values;

Be It Resolved;

That Marriage be defined exclusively as the sacred bond between a hippo and a hummingbird.

We love it. The full political power of the Collective will be behind this proposal, and we salute you!

Good morning everyone.

I just noticed that HIPPOS ARE REALLY QUITE LARGE has made quorum and is in queue to be considered on the Floor of the UN.

I'd like to thank everyone for their support. I'm looking forward to a lively and constructive debate on environmental awareness when this comes up for a vote.

We approve.
Their are a surplus of self important stuffed shirts around here.
We speak in praise of folly, the universal antidote to stuffiness.

Do hippos make good steaks?

Yes.

Most hippos spend their third through sixth years training with the finest chefs in Europe.

Also they wear chef hats.

How do they cook hippo?

Rarely.

Ah, medium rare is a good way to cook them.

This is a stupid proposal.


Your sister was a stupid proposal :P .

I'll endorse this, but only because it got deleted. Once it hits the floor, I am almost certainly against it.

I'm split. On the one hand, it's a frivolous waste of time. On the other hand, it's an Environmental resolution and will help push Goobergunchia back to a Scandinavian Liberal Paradise, per the president's request. I'm not sure on my vote yet.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Founder of the DU Region

I'd like to thank everyone for their support. I'm looking forward to a lively and constructive debate on environmental awareness when this comes up for a vote.

I sure hope so...that would be the best thing to come out of this affair. Sadly, some other posts in this thread are showing that that may not be the case.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Founder of the DU Region

Why not propose genetic research to make hippos larger so they can even be the largest animal that EVER existed while you're at it?

Seriously, THERE ARE NO HIPPOs IN MY COUNTRY and if you put them there, it shall be viewed as an act of war and your country will be eliminated from the face of the planet.

Why not propose genetic research to make hippos larger so they can even be the largest animal that EVER existed while you're at it?


Hmm, interesting...the Collectives' scientific units know to work on the matter as we speak. Perhaps it is worth looking into. Our philosophical components will debate that issue.

it is acknowledged that they kill more people than any other creature. They are criminals and should be treated the same as any other cold blooded killer either executed or incarcerated. :evil:

it is acknowledged that they kill more people than any other creature. They are criminals and should be treated the same as any other cold blooded killer either executed or incarcerated. :evil:
What about elephants. I read that an elephant keeper has the most dangerous job in the US. Should we execute elephants.

[quote="Letila"]This is a stupid proposal.

Amen to that!

This propsal just stinks. The Elephant is the bigest land animal that is still around on this planet. People like you should be banned from the game, by such idoit propsals. Enough said with that.

This propsal just stinks. The Elephant is the bigest land animal that is still around on this planet. People like you should be banned from the game, by such idoit propsals. Enough said with that.

I dub thee greyface!

Dendrys will not support this proposal, because Dendrys would rather spend its tax dollars on improving schools than on Hippo Awareness.




Respectfully submitted,
Nialle Sylvan
Speaker for the Trees

This is Quite Possibly the saddest proposal ive ever heard yet .. :tantrum:

This proposal is clearly the opposite of sad. It is fun :lol:

"Against the assault of laughter, nothing can stand." -- Mark Twain

Dendrys will not support this proposal, because Dendrys would rather spend its tax dollars on improving schools than on Hippo Awareness.


TedHughes believes that a school in which only seriousness is taught is no school at all.

Dendrys concurs with TedHughes and invites TedHughes to sit in on a class of "HUM865: Dry Wit in Politics" at the University of Dendrys.


Nialle Sylvan
Speaker for the Trees

What about the Pygmy Hippos? And isn't Hippo really Latin for Horse? Horse's are pretty big, but not really all that big, well some of them are bigger than others and I think there are some real small Horses. And even though there are really small horses, I've gotten confused as to why we put our smallest riders on some of the big horses... Now if I was a small rider, I think they are called jockeys, which I used to think was a type of underwear, although horses don't wear underwear (and neither do hippopatumus (or any creature from the Hippopotamidae family), which are very big and very dangerous, more dangerous than alligators or crocodiles who have lots of teeth and are pretty nasty themselves, particularly when you consider that they are like living dinosaurs. Now Dinosaurs were really big, not as big as a blue whale, which is the biggest of all creatures known to exist (animal not plant, obviously, after all there are some awfully big trees and such but I don't wish to digress). But dinosaurs died, except for the crocs and alligators (and the birds if you are a bird-dinosaur person) and sharks (which really may not be a dinosaur, but they are dang old, like the coelacanth, which is an old fish that was thought to be extinct like the dinosuars (excepting those exceptions noted above) but was found to be a live and was called a living dinosaur too, which can be very confusing, to be sure.))) Now, the jockeys do wear underwear, sometimes they even wear jockeys, which may sound vaguely cannibalistic, but it is not, I assure you. Now horses (and other hippos) could wear underwear, and in zoos and the like it's been done for medical reasons or as a form of contraception, but that underwear is not called a jockey. The little horses, and ponies, which are also little horses, rarely wear jockeys of either type, though they have been known to carry small children. Now, to a small child, even a pony or a pygmy hippo is going to appear big, but so will a cow or even a large dog, particularly the Saint Bernard breed of dog, which while technically not the biggest of the dogs, is most assuredly a big dog. And while most dogs are bigger than most cats in the house, there are large species of cats than any of the dog types. Still when most of think of cats, we think smaller than a dog and not bigger. Because of this size discrepency issue exists on such a common animal, it seems reasonable it would be so on uncommonly encountered animals like the hippopotamus, or the whale, which also comes in many sizes, though some like the orca, which we call a whale, is really a dolphin. Still, my 2.5 year old child can well distinguish the difference between big and BIG, so instead of trying to legislate sizism nomenclature for river horses which really look like misshapen, overgrown pigs (which amazingly enough actually don't have as large of a size variation, and most of the variation we do have is artificially produced via breeding), we should vote down this proposal and continue to let the size of natures creatures speak for themselves.

Now that was funny. Cheers!



Elaine Sylvan
Arboreal Delegate

Dendrys concurs with TedHughes and invites TedHughes to sit in on a class of "HUM865: Dry Wit in Politics" at the University of Dendrys.


TedHughes is humbled, and accepts Dendry's offer. Is the treasury of Dendry's willing to foot the transport bill for TedHughes' entire population?

So flattered is our nation at TedHughes' gracious acceptance that we would gladly provide funding for the establishment of a branch of the University of Dendrys in the land of TedHughes, offering the following degrees:

Bachelor of Arts in Humour
Bachelor of Arts in Physical Humour
Bachelor of Arts in Comic Acting
B.S. (self explanatory)


*edit* We're using our hippo awareness funds for this :shock:

Cheers.
Elaine Sylvan
Arboreal Delegate

This Hippo proposal? Well unless you were reading the description then you would have read "all creatures but mostly Hippos will be acknowledged" which means that this is an enviromental proposal but it is concerning more than the stupid hippo. Just trying to point this out.

The proposal mentions other animal only once. It spends longer discussing hippos wearing windbreakers, than it does discussing other animals.

Another point on which we're going to get contentious; because we sure as bejeezus aren't going to found an HIV virus awareness day, or a Streptococcus day :roll:



Elaine Sylvan
very slightly out of character

The proposal mentions other animal only once. It spends longer discussing hippos wearing windbreakers, than it does discussing other animals.

That's because hippos wearing windbreakers f**king rock!

This is a stupid proposal.

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The proposal in itself isn't stupid. The conservation of endangered species is a worthwhile goal. However, the HIPPOS ARE LARGE stipulation makes this seem like a joke.

With that clause removed I would happily vote in favour of this proposal, but as it stands, I cannot support it

My nation is a very close to the earth, but my national animals is the Tiger and i don't even care about Hippos, why i should spend my money on this animal, i have more other things to do, this is the worst UN Resolution i have never see...

[quote="Letila"]This is a stupid proposal.

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Teh proposal in itself isn't stupid. The conservation of endangered species is a worthwhile goal. However, the HIPPOS ARE LARGE stipulation makes this seem like a joke.

With that claause removed I would happily vote in favour of this proposal, but as it stands, I cannot support it
You would leave the windbreaker clause.

I think this is an idea that hasn't been thought about properly and shouldn't be voted for. :shock:

This is a stupid proposal.

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The proposal in itself isn't stupid. The conservation of endangered species is a worthwhile goal. However, the HIPPOS ARE LARGE stipulation makes this seem like a joke.

With that clause removed I would happily vote in favour of this proposal, but as it stands, I cannot support it

If people want to stipulate that hippos are large, we're all for it. It's the idea that we need to spend money to raise awareness of the fact that grodes our national gut.

If someone would like to submit a proposal that is uproariously funny but does not raise our taxes, we'll vote for it :roll:

I think the resolution boils down to setting aside a day to promote the environment (like Earth day). Think it would be kind of cool for most of the world to hold it at the same time.

I think the resolution boils down to setting aside a day to promote the environment (like Earth day). Think it would be kind of cool for most of the world to hold it at the same time.
I think the resolution boils down to the fact that some people find it fun to mock river hippos while wasting the UN's time.

"You mocked me once! Never do it again!" -- Buttercup

It is a waste of time, in that there were (I suspect) intentional vaguenesses that are going to give rise to the same old debates (what's a creature, how much will it cost, isn't this really just saying _______ nice liberal thing)....

Now that was funny. Cheers!
Elaine Sylvan
Arboreal Delegate

Well, I was given to understand that humor was an essential part of the proposal and felt any address should also contain such quantities of humor as could be found appropriate.

L-ski
Libertaniaski Ambassador of State.

I don't think it's fair that hippos get their own day...

It should be like, animal day...

There's tons of animals suffering due to human development.

*votes against it*

Humans are animals too! :evil:

There are also tons of other non-human animals who cause suffering to other non-human animals. Mostly by eating them alive. Did you know the nose and the butts are often one of the first targets because they're soft and vulnerable?

Now that was funny. Cheers!
Elaine Sylvan
Arboreal Delegate

Well, I was given to understand that humor was an essential part of the proposal and felt any address should also contain such quantities of humor as could be found appropriate.

L-ski
Libertaniaski Ambassador of State.

Appropriate? You considered that meandering non-statement to contain an "appropriate" quantity of humor? You barely managed to throw in a point in the last few lines. In this respect your statement was similar to the actual proposal, which offers more humor than substance and is worded in such a way that it shifts the reader's focus away from its point. As much as I like animals and nature, I've no desire to replace Christmas with Hippo Awareness Day this year. Yes, the first Thursday after the winter Solstice is, in fact, Christmas, at least this year. If your nation celebrates this holiday, or any other holiday, on this date, I urge you to reject this insidiously worded proposal.
-General Sir Conrad Joseph Leopold von Schenkenberg, Matalonian Press Secratary

My Hippos went extinct... :cry: :cry: :cry:

so whats the point of the resoulution if I Don't have any hippos to Celebrate?

... Fireheart

All I ever see come up for vote are tree-huggin' hippy issues. All this "love yer neighber" stuff and "don't torture yer prisoners" is makin' me ill. So, ya know what? This here hippo proposal is a good way to show how them UN folks how they're nothin' but a bunch of tree-huggin' hippies.

So Alabammy's votin' YES for the hippos.

Let's give them UN folks what they deserve.

Tree-huggin hippies.

...

I mean, tree-huggin' hippos.

Hippos for hippies.

-Prez Billy Bob Hicklee

This is a compleat waste of time, that could be better spent repealing the human rights resolution! :x

Although the national animal of Vomer, is, in fact, the elephant, we support all thick-skinned african megafauna, and our heart goes out to the citizens of Covenant, who will never know the joy of watching a hippo gracefully bounding along the bottom of a nutrient-rich riverbed. All efforts should be made to restore hippos to the environments where they once roamed free. Vomer extends its hand in assistance in this effort, and in friendship to all hippos and those who respect their majesty.

Plus--what about all the gay hippos?

Although the national animal of Vomer, is, in fact, the elephant, we support all thick-skinned african megafauna, and our heart goes out to the citizens of Covenant, who will never know the joy of watching a hippo gracefully bounding along the bottom of a nutrient-rich riverbed. All efforts should be made to restore hippos to the environments where they once roamed free. Vomer extends its hand in assistance in this effort, and in friendship to all hippos and those who respect their majesty.

Plus--what about all the gay hippos?

Gay Hippos? What on earth are you talking about? Where, in this entire thread of conversation, has even one person brought up gay hippos? And for that matter, where does the resolution say anything about restoring hippos to their natural habitats? Hippos certainly aren't indigenous to my country; I certainly don't want anyone "restoring" them to Matalonia. That aside though, this entire thread of conversation just keeps getting more and more idiotic with every passing hour. Gay hippos?! Give me a break! What kind of government leaders are you people anyway? Wasting time on the sexual rights of animals whose sexual rights aren't regulated by laws anyway. They could be cross-dressing, bisexual, anthropomorphically incorrect hippos with gender-neutral names, and it still wouldn't make a lick of difference, because there are NO LAWS AGAINS HIPPOS BEING GAY! And if there are countries that have laws on animal gender rights, then they are in desperate need of a nation-wide CAT scan.
- Mr. Gali-Gali Boutrous, Matalonian Ambassador to the UN

I can't belive someone wrote this!

I, King Haku, have given my views on this subject in a similar discussion thread. I have also sent an e-mail to the Nation that proposed this whole thing, and also have asked my regional delegate to vote against it.

I understand that we can defeat this proposal - but the fact that it has actually become a proposal sickens me. I made a very good one a while back concerning the furtherment of Democracy and the reply made me very angry indeed.

When Democracy is overlooked, and Hippos get the attention, one tends to get a little worried. Sure, so it's proof that anyone can get their voice heard no matter how stupid their ideas are - but nonetheless, I don't think the U.N should be wasting it's time with this.

Now that was funny. Cheers!
Elaine Sylvan
Arboreal Delegate

Well, I was given to understand that humor was an essential part of the proposal and felt any address should also contain such quantities of humor as could be found appropriate.

L-ski
Libertaniaski Ambassador of State.

Appropriate? You considered that meandering non-statement to contain an "appropriate" quantity of humor? You barely managed to throw in a point in the last few lines. In this respect your statement was similar to the actual proposal, which offers more humor than substance and is worded in such a way that it shifts the reader's focus away from its point. As much as I like animals and nature, I've no desire to replace Christmas with Hippo Awareness Day this year. Yes, the first Thursday after the winter Solstice is, in fact, Christmas, at least this year. If your nation celebrates this holiday, or any other holiday, on this date, I urge you to reject this insidiously worded proposal.
-General Sir Conrad Joseph Leopold von Schenkenberg, Matalonian Press Secratary

Then you saw my point but failed to completely grasp it. Mocking humor of mocking humor is way up there on the irony scale.

Nice proposal. Hippos are the second largest land animal and should be apreciated. I agree totally.

Most gay hippos have good fashion sense and do not wear windbreakers.

You can't take it to the bank or anything, but it's a fair bet that a windbreaker-wearing hippo is a heterosexual hippo.

This proposal has struggled from floor to gavel, much as the hippo itself has struggled through history.

I think this bill is historic outside of itself, however one feels about the animal itself. I am voting in favor of this, because I think it is important we smile from time to time. I think the politics of being are just as important of the politics of learning.

It is important to help the environment, and anyone reading this outside of the dotted lines sees this is an environmental proposal.

It is important to smile, and this is one of the very few (perhaps outside of Freedom Of Humor) proposals to actually put a focus on relaxing and enjoying the game (what, you mean this is a game?) while maintaining the verisimilitude of legal, and logical language. What sort of humor would you approve, if not that meeting these guidelines?

The Hippo should go the way of the dinosaur. ALL large and dangerous animals should be exterminated. (Yes I know that MAN is the most dangerous animal but we're not large......O.K. some of us are large.) You think the dinosaur went extinct because of some silly comet 65 million years ago? HAH!!! It was us, The Holy Republic of Grittyone, that did it! Right now we are working on deforestation in our great country to finally be rid of our national animal, the Hippocamus, a prehistoric precursor to the modern horse. "One small step for man. One giant extinction for Mankind." Your precious Hippo is next! :twisted:

Go back and read the proposal again. It isn't really about Hippos.

Well since our little Kingdom have a ZOO allready we will use this proposal to raise some money for thier new waterhole ;)

But let's stop this waste of UN funds and time, the issue regarding Hippos should be left to WSPA to deal with.

Best Regards
:D

Go back and read the proposal again. It isn't really about Hippos.
That's like saying slavery (in the US and europe at least) wasn't about oppression and free labor because they threw in some bits about Christianity and modernization.

This proposal is about hippos, not the environment. It is an attempt to be funny, and in my opinion it fails in that attempt.

this isnt something u see in the UN everyday on the news is it?
was this issue proposed by some guy on drugs?

this isnt something u see in the UN everyday on the news is it?
was this issue proposed by some guy on drugs?

Go back and read the proposal again. It isn't really about Hippos.
That's like saying slavery (in the US and europe at least) wasn't about oppression and free labor because they threw in some bits about Christianity and modernization.

This proposal is about hippos, not the environment. It is an attempt to be funny, and in my opinion it fails in that attempt.

It's using hippos as a front for pro-environment propaganda. Which isn't in the UN's jurasdiction. It should never have made it even to the point it is now, except that a lot of people think it would be "cool" or "funny" to have a Hippo holiday. Read it again, because obviously you missed the point.

If you guys want to make a holiday, like arbor day, to advocate environmental concern, by all means do so. I'm sure you can get a lot of support for that. But it doesn't belong in the UN. Name one time the UN has ever mandated a holiday.

At first... I looked at this proposal and voted against... it was stupid... it was like trying to cheat on test when you sit right in front of the teacher stupid... and now... I say why the hell not? They are only hippos ya know... i change my vote to for... why shouldn't ya'll? It couldn't hurt to give this person there hippo day. All of you should do your girl scouts good deed and vote for.

Go back and read the proposal again. It isn't really about Hippos.
That's like saying slavery (in the US and europe at least) wasn't about oppression and free labor because they threw in some bits about Christianity and modernization.

This proposal is about hippos, not the environment. It is an attempt to be funny, and in my opinion it fails in that attempt.

It's using hippos as a front for pro-environment propaganda. Which isn't in the UN's jurasdiction. It should never have made it even to the point it is now, except that a lot of people think it would be "cool" or "funny" to have a Hippo holiday. Read it again, because obviously you missed the point.

If you guys want to make a holiday, like arbor day, to advocate environmental concern, by all means do so. I'm sure you can get a lot of support for that. But it doesn't belong in the UN. Name one time the UN has ever mandated a holiday.
Well, I assume you are talking about the real UN, because the NationStates UN has jurisdiction over everything for some reason. In that case, you are completely and utterly wrong. The UN has about 100 different holidays, such as World Food Day, World Animal Day, and World Water Day. And I think you are also wrong about the writer's intent. They wanted to make a stupid proposal about hippos, and they added some stuff about the environment in order to attract votes from those of us who aren't stupid. Notice how there are two sentences about the environment and about 40 sentences about hippos. However, that does not detract from the stupidity of the resolution.

Well obviously you need to retake your middle school reading comprehension classes. Just because there are more sentences about hippoes doesn't mean that the hippo parts are the important parts.The hippo holiday, which is what s many people are hung up on, is the least of what this proposal would entail.

Also, I was talking about the NS UN. It was created for the same reason as the real UN and it has only the power that you give it. It's not right for the UN to have so much power. If the writer put in the hippo part as a distraction tactic to pass a resolution that would be clearly wrong otherwise, they did a good job. Because a lot of people don't understand that it isn't about hippos, and thus don't care about the real consequences of passing it.

And I think you are also wrong about the writer's intent. They wanted to make a stupid proposal about hippos, and they added some stuff about the environment in order to attract votes from those of us who aren't stupid.

Nope. I wanted to write a real proposal about a real issue and so I chose the environment. The stuff about Hippos is to make it entertaining. And I don't care about getting the support of those of you who evidently are stupid.

(Yes I know that MAN is the most dangerous animal but we're not large......O.K. some of us are large.)

MAN is very large. Humans are larger than something like 98% of all the species on the Earth.

was this issue proposed by some guy on drugs?

No. But I'm like, you know, HIGH on life man.

Also thanks to Sherbondy for coming around. There's still time for the rest of you.

Go back and read the proposal again. It isn't really about Hippos.
That's like saying slavery (in the US and europe at least) wasn't about oppression and free labor because they threw in some bits about Christianity and modernization.

This proposal is about hippos, not the environment. It is an attempt to be funny, and in my opinion it fails in that attempt.

It's using hippos as a front for pro-environment propaganda. Which isn't in the UN's jurasdiction. It should never have made it even to the point it is now, except that a lot of people think it would be "cool" or "funny" to have a Hippo holiday. Read it again, because obviously you missed the point.

If you guys want to make a holiday, like arbor day, to advocate environmental concern, by all means do so. I'm sure you can get a lot of support for that. But it doesn't belong in the UN. Name one time the UN has ever mandated a holiday.

I think you are missing the point of NationStates ... The NS UN doesn't necessarily reflect a real life UN. Supposedly the UN in game is all powerful and can mandate anything it damn well feels like and all of us who are a part of it will follow said mandates or feel its proverbial wrath.

Go back and read the proposal again. It isn't really about Hippos.
That's like saying slavery (in the US and europe at least) wasn't about oppression and free labor because they threw in some bits about Christianity and modernization.

This proposal is about hippos, not the environment. It is an attempt to be funny, and in my opinion it fails in that attempt.

being that this proposals actually spells out that environment should be preserved for all animals, esp. including hippos, and mentions nothing about enslaving christians, I am not sure that you make a counter-point.

This is simply ridiculous. I dont know how anyone can be stupid enough to pass such a day. HIPPOS ARE NOT PEACEFUL. More people get killed in a year by hippos than by sharks. To have a day commemerating these beasts is simply ridiculous.

More people are killed by cars then Hippos. Do we hate cars? No, we worship them.

Hold on, hold on. This isn't about hippos, in the sense that the practical application of this resolution isn't going to cause all of us to get daily reports on hippo awareness during the normal course of our governmental business. This is about:

a) an increase in taxes
b) a hit to our economies (since business is explicitly to be hindered by the resolution)
c) the creation of an institutionalised holiday and programme on behalf of hippos AND OTHER CREATURES -- possibly resulting in a repression of various civil liberties, such as the right to celebrate something else on December 25
d) in the end, a hit to nature, because while we're busy spending money on raising awareness of hippos, we can't spend it on keeping our forests healthy, our cities clean and our technologies environment-friendly.

It's funny, it's quirky... but ultimately, it's destructive. Vote no.

Go back and read the proposal again. It isn't really about Hippos.
That's like saying slavery (in the US and europe at least) wasn't about oppression and free labor because they threw in some bits about Christianity and modernization.

This proposal is about hippos, not the environment. It is an attempt to be funny, and in my opinion it fails in that attempt.

being that this proposals actually spells out that environment should be preserved for all animals, esp. including hippos, and mentions nothing about enslaving christians, I am not sure that you make a counter-point.

Are you saying that we should enslave the Christians? I seriously doubt that the Hippos would approve of that.

I actually find the bit about zoos alarming. This proposal seems to encourage the captivity of these magnificent creatures!