NationStates Jolt Archive

Please support the voting rights propsal. Here it is word for word:

1. The voting age will be lowered to 16.

2. No single person can be denied this right, on the basis of sex, race, or culture.

3. This resolution will make it illegal for the government to take away any voting rights, except in cases of war.

This resolution will ensure that everybody gets a say in government. Please pass this.

Please support the voting rights propsal. Here it is word for word:

1. The voting age will be lowered to 16.

2. No single person can be denied this right, on the basis of sex, race, or culture.

3. This resolution will make it illegal for the government to take away any voting rights, except in cases of war.

This resolution will ensure that everybody gets a say in government. Please pass this.

What about people in mental hospitals or jails?

I perfer "no government shall deny to any taxpaying citizen the right to vote in elections." This gets rid of all of those loopholes. Governments can give nontaxpaying citizens to vote too [mine does], but they don't have to.

Please support the voting rights propsal. Here it is word for word:

1. The voting age will be lowered to 16.

2. No single person can be denied this right, on the basis of sex, race, or culture.

3. This resolution will make it illegal for the government to take away any voting rights, except in cases of war.

This resolution will ensure that everybody gets a say in government. Please pass this.

What about people in mental hospitals or jails?

I perfer "no government shall deny to any taxpaying citizen the right to vote in elections." This gets rid of all of those loopholes. Governments can give nontaxpaying citizens to vote too [mine does], but they don't have to.

First off, people in jail do not deserve the right to vote until they get out. I do not trust people in jail, because they must have done something wrong in the first place to get. Plus the people in jail and mental hospitals have proven to us that they cannot think things out.

First off, people in jail do not deserve the right to vote until they get out. I do not trust people in jail, because they must have done something wrong in the first place to get. Plus the people in jail and mental hospitals have proven to us that they cannot think things out.

That's what I was trying to say... but your resolution makes it so that people in jails and mental hospitals could vote.

I'd pretty much agree with TGM. While I think that I might allow convicts to vote, that is a decision that would be better left to each nation.

It's probably best to avoid using the term "citizen" when trying to make sure that every person can vote. Citizenship is not a UN-governed process, and each government defines the terms and legalizations therein for itself. You can probably see where I'm going with that.

I'd pretty much agree with TGM. While I think that I might allow convicts to vote, that is a decision that would be better left to each nation.

It's probably best to avoid using the term "citizen" when trying to make sure that every person can vote. Citizenship is not a UN-governed process, and each government defines the terms and legalizations therein for itself. You can probably see where I'm going with that.

Well... illegal aliens...

I guess I should be more obvious: Where does it say that a government has to recognize all domestically born people as citizens?

I guess I should be more obvious: Where does it say that a government has to recognize all domestically born people as citizens?

It doesn't. But that, alas, is a question for another bright morning, glorious day.

If it is not specificly stated in the propsal, than it is left up to the individual nation. For example, the UN passed the Labor rights resolution, and all UN nations had to follow it when it was passed, but later I was able to outlaw labor unions, by changing excatly what a labor Union was. Also, the United States of America gives the right to vote for people of 18 years or older, but the state of Illinios, makes it illegal for people to vote when they are in jail. The resolution would simply be up to individual nation to decide how far the rights go.

The Emperor has reviewed this resolution and concluded that, as the empire is by law in a permanent state of war, no voting rights need be granted under this resolution.

What about voting left?

What about voting left?

What are you trying to say? I do not understand the question.

What about voting left?

You're right it doesn't mention the right to vote left.:shock:

You can also be "left wing" or I think they are the liberals?

Just like the resolution states: That nobody can be denided the right to vote on the basis of sex, race, or culture.

OK, the voting age is 16, so that means everyone under 16 can vote, right? And I won't stop them from voting, as long as they vote for me. :twisted:
(perhaps a couple changes are in order... :P )

OK, the voting age is 16, so that means everyone under 16 can vote, right? And I won't stop them from voting, as long as they vote for me. :twisted:
(perhaps a couple changes are in order... :P )

It is implied because I am saying that it will be LOWERED to 16. This does not include people below the age of 16. Please read more carefully next time.

OK, the voting age is 16, so that means everyone under 16 can vote, right? And I won't stop them from voting, as long as they vote for me. :twisted:
(perhaps a couple changes are in order... :P )

It is implied because I am saying that it will be LOWERED to 16. This does not include people below the age of 16. Please read more carefully next time.
Implications are still subject to interpretation by the governments enacting the law. Why imply something when you can explicitly state it? 8)
(Also, if it is to be LOWERED to 16, then what do nations do that have voting ages that are already at or below 16?)

1. All citizens of age 16 or over shall have the right to vote. Age is to be determined as the number of times that the Earth has revolved around Sol since the birth of the citizen.

2. No taxpaying citizen may be denied this right on the basis of sex, race, culture, religion, marital status, wealth, or any distinguishing characteristic other than those stated in Article 1.

3. No government may take away voting rights unless that government is in a state of war against another nation or group of nations.*

4. No citizen shall be provided with any kind of benefit, monetary or otherwise, to vote in a particular way. No threat shall be used against any citizen as an incentive not to vote in a particular way.
*So don't take away voting rights because you're at war with 'terrorism' or some such thing :P
(feel free to find loopholes in this version, too ;) )

Vote for the Communist of your Choice!!! (of course there will only be one per office on the ticket) but you are free to exercise your right to vote! Wait a minute? No lets make it manditory to vote that way we can say "We are the Freest Nation in the World!" :lol:

Give me a break!!! Any "Freedom Loving" Member Nation in the UN , if they really espoused freedom, would stop proposing & supporting any of these resolution and allow every nation ( and its people) the right to self determination.

EVERY UN RESOLUTION IS A VIOLATION OF EVERY MEMBER NATIONS RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION, WHETHER I LIKE ANY SPECIFIC RESOLUTION OR NOT!!!

GOOD IDEAS ARE SPREAD BY EXAMPLE, NOT BY IMPOSITION!!! :x

Vote for the Communist of your Choice!!! (of course there will only be one per office on the ticket) but you are free to exercise your right to vote! Wait a minute? No lets make it manditory to vote that way we can say "We are the Freest Nation in the World!" :lol:

Give me a break!!! Any "Freedom Loving" Member Nation in the UN , if they really espoused freedom, would stop proposing & supporting any of these resolution and allow every nation ( and its people) the right to self determination.

EVERY UN RESOLUTION IS A VIOLATION OF EVERY MEMBER NATIONS RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION, WHETHER I LIKE ANY SPECIFIC RESOLUTION OR NOT!!!

GOOD IDEAS ARE SPREAD BY EXAMPLE, NOT BY IMPOSITION!!! :x

Wake up this is not suppose to represent the real UN. This is just a game.

I you are not for this. Than you are against voting rights.

I you are not for this. Than you are against voting rights.

Yes, clearly that is the only ground for disagreeing with this proposal. Never mind that a good many people would take issue with your voting age. Never mind that your proposal would allow nations to take the right to vote away during times of war. I especially love hearing that argument from someone who's argued that there are indeed quite a few people that should not be allowed to vote.

Or, if you prefer, you could take a dose of your own medicine and realize that the passing or failing of this proposal has nothing to do with voting rights in the real world -- "this is not suppose to represent the real UN. This is just a game."

Today must people work when they turn of the age 16. I believe in taxation with represention. Meaning if you are taxed, then you should be given the right to vote. I believe in this, even though my nation has no taxes.

We of Chumba agree that it is, every human beings basic and civil right to choose who represents them.

The Empire of Levettia utterly condemns this motion to allow "ordinary" citizens the power to impose their will on the powers that be. As a Hereditary Monarchy this nation has been forced to move with the times but this is a push too far. Democracy is good only in theory. In reality, we in Levettia, have foud it a stumbling block to national deffence and the good of the nation. All voting rights in this country have been abolished.


The govt here however, recognises that you, the leaders of the world, are more than the meagre subjects we all must rule over, and if you chose to allow democracy in your own nations as the ruling class that is your choice to make.

My argument is simply this....do you have the right to demand from other soverign nations that we hand over all our traditions and history to you(im sure you would not hand them to me) and force democracy on a fellow leader. Im sure that is utterly against the principals you all hold so dear I am then also sure that "Voting rights for all" will not pass.
thank you