A gun control proposal that would work.
Check out this proposal please.
I ask that you read all the way through it before you make up your mind. Think about it for a second. It should appeal to everyone except those who will only be statisfied by eliminating all guns entirely.
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Tax Deductions for Gun Owners
A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.
Category: Gun Control Decision: Tighten Proposed by: Saul 2 Paul
Description: To assist in the move to register all guns we propose the following:
That all UN nations, that intelligently allow the people their right to bear arms, grant a tax deduction for the registering of any gun.
The tax deduction would result in having more guns registered and thereby, legal ownership established. This would allow stricter and more reliable tracking of gun ownership.
Criminals would still have guns but would be unable to benifit from the tax deduction, without exposing their possession.
This would also assist law enforcement, in tracking gun thefts, thereby, removing more unlawful guns from the streets.
Let the tax deduction be equal to the amount of taxes charged at the time of purchase of the gun. Let the deduction be a one time tax deduction for each purchase.
Lets pass this truely workable gun resolution.
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Please vote for it, if you like it (or ask your delegate to do so) and spread the word to other delegates. Thanks one and all.
The people of Novakistan have requested that I bring several points to your attention as the sponsor of this proposal.
First of all, we as a nation hardly see a need for change. Why exactly do gun laws have to be stricter? You have not even attempted to establish a link between guns and higher crime rates (in actuality, Novakistan suffers a very low violent crime rate because of the prevalency of guns). Why should the nations of the world require all of their gun owners to register with the government?
"The tax deduction would result in having more guns registered and thereby, legal ownership established. This would allow stricter and more reliable tracking of gun ownership. "
This amazes us as a people. Why do you presume that gun ownership NEED be tracked and the regulations stricter? The criminals arent going to run out and register their guns because of a measly tax break. Once again, you have not said what guns are doing that are bad. Yes, people die from them. People also die from knives. Why are you dealing with the tools of a few chosen criminals instead of the criminals themselves? Novakistan uses several forms of the death penalty and 'eye for an eye justice' to crack down on offenders. Why doesn't my nation suggest a proposal requiring the registration of knife owners?
"Criminals would still have guns but would be unable to benifit from the tax deduction, without exposing their possession. "
you claimed that the tax break would be equivalent to the taxes paid at the time of the purchase of the gun. If this is correct, then in Novakistan (with the average sales tax being around 10%), this means about a 20 dollar tax rebate on a 200 dollar gun! Do you seriously think a gun owner would go through the trouble to register his gun for 20 bucks? Better yet, do you think that criminals will be emotionally distressed that they cannot register their guns for a 20 dollar rebate?!
"This would also assist law enforcement, in tracking gun thefts, thereby, removing more unlawful guns from the streets. "
How would this assist in tracking gun thefts? If a gun owner were worried about a theft, he would have his gun registered anyways. This does nothing to remove unlawful guns from the streets, because as already mentioned, this does nothing to harm the criminals who own firearms.
"Lets pass this truely workable gun resolution. "
Regardless of how "workable" this resolution may be, it simply makes no sense. I could propose a resolution mandating clitoral mutiliation, it might be workable, but it may not be necessary. The people of my nation fear for joining this body if proposals of this nature are frequent. Do the members of this body so openly assume that gun ownership is inherently linked to crime and that gun control is linked to lower crime rates? Please DO NOT pass this irrational and unnecessary attack on lawful gun owners world-wide.
Gun control is a domestic issue, not an international one.
To the ruler of Novakistan, I say you are preaching to the choir in your response.
I, in the real world, am a supporter of the NRA. I own several guns myself and would welcome a real law such as proposed.
One item that you really seemed to miss the point on is that with total registration helping law enforcement. This would result in your gun being returned to you if it was stolen then used in a crime, thus removing an illegal firearm from the streets. Would you like for one of your own guns to become one of the illegal ones the anti-gun people are always yelling about?
Another thing is the amount of tax (using your example of the $20 figure). You stated that gun owners wont register their guns for such a small amount. By making that statement you imply that your compliance with gun laws is for sale for the right price.
This proposal does not limit the number or type of weapon a person can own. As a matter of fact it rewards with a higher deduction for owning more guns.
Please read the proposal again, with an open mind. This is a proposal that was written by a gun proponent, not some radical that is trying to yank the gun out of your hand. I would be more than willing to go hunting/target shooting/skeet shooting/or gun buying with you at any time.
Thank You For Your Interest.
Saul 2 Paul.
Gun control is a domestic issue, not an international one.Why then is "gun control" one of the headings we have to choose from when making proposals? Could it be that this is a game and that is one of the areas of concern?
Collaboration
02-12-2003, 05:37
We have citizens that refuse to register guns because they fear they will be put on some government watch list, that they will instantly become suspects and in future be forced to forfeit their arms.
A tax deduction seems unlikely to remove these fears.
Why then is "gun control" one of the headings we have to choose from when making proposals? Could it be that this is a game and that is one of the areas of concern?
That doesn't respond to his question. It does not supply any real justification for treating gun control as an international issue.
Why then is "gun control" one of the headings we have to choose from when making proposals? Could it be that this is a game and that is one of the areas of concern?
That doesn't respond to his question. It does not supply any real justification for treating gun control as an international issue.
Well, no, but in pure game terms it does. Wouldn't win a debate on the international stage at the real UN, but it's quite a valid reason in this neck of the woods.
New Babel
02-12-2003, 16:15
I'd support this issue if it weren't international. People should be able to choose on this matter.
This is a great proposal if you want to give gun owners tax relief. Other than that, there isn't much of a point to it. Most citizens will register their guns because law and morals desire it. Those citizens that don't likely won't for a $100 break on their taxes. As for criminals, do most even pay taxes if their income is derived by illegal means? This means that (generally) the people who have already registered their guns will get money back. Those who haven't probably won't. And it does nothing to deter criminals with guns.
Somehow I see this proposal lacking in any sort of motive.