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Fossil Fuel bill should help economies.

Discotequia
27-11-2003, 23:29
Realistically, if a government or industry finances new technologies, it will create jobs and boost the economy. I will be really dissapointed if my economy gets hurt instead of helped by the passing of the bill.
Cowes
28-11-2003, 01:51
Unfortunately, alternative fuels won't require as many unskilled workers, such as miners, who would be put out of jobs. Cowes economic analysts project some economic problems, but not as bad as some nations project - that is, unless oil and fossil fuels are their major industry.

-Courtney Brewster, Parliament Economic Committee Chairman
The Commonwealth of Cowes
28-11-2003, 06:22
This bill will destroy your economy and thousands of jobless will be in the streets. The second line in the bill even says it is bad for economies! Re-read it, then go change your votes.
Darranack
28-11-2003, 06:29
The bill will hurt the economy in the short term. There's little question of that.

However, a reduction of oil consumption will eventually help the economy. A continuation of current oil consumption growth will result in the depletion of most of the world's oil supply and will lead to further war and destruction, as well as economic recession due to lack of oil. Pursuing alternative energy sources is essential for two reasons:

A. It will slow down this process, therefore giving more time for research and other means to avoid some of the problems that are developing due to high consumption of oil.

B. It will reduce the world's dependency on oil, therefore reducing the impact of the oil problem.
28-11-2003, 06:45
Why would automobile companies be held responsible for investigating the use of new fuel sources?

whereas: Automobiles use petroleum, what is to prevent coal, a fossil fuel not used in automobiles from deteriorating the ozone.

whereas: The automobile industry has already taken steps to provide consumers with the capability of purchasing automobiles that are 50% solar energy 50% petroleum.

The burden of investigation should fall squarely upon the industries that distribute fossil fuels. This would allow for them to gain firsthand knowledge of possible changes in the fuel industry and to take over the distribution of the alternate fuel source, which would prevent these companies from going out of business and causing the unemployment of these companies employees.

I recommend that this resolution be scrapped and that the fossil fuel industry be held responsible for the funding of research to replace ALL fossil fuels.
28-11-2003, 07:48
Just so you're all aware, the burning of fossil fuels releases greenhouse gases like Carbon Dioxide and Carbon Monoxide, which contribute to the greenhouse effect, and may increase global warming.

The Ozone layer blocks the bulk of UV radiation.
CFCs float up to just above the ozone layer, get broken down by UV radiation, and in turn break down the ozone below them, which allows more UV radiation to reach the earth. UV radiation does not transmit heat (but causes skin cancer and the like). CFCs were thought to be harmless, but no one predicted they'd float above the protective ozone and get broken down into very harmful gases.

In summary:
Carbon Dioxide and monoxide emmisions and CO emmisions from burning fossil fuels add to the greenhouse effect, raising global temperatures.

Only CFCs affect the ozone layer- which protects the earth from UV radiation which is quite dangerous.


You should also know that Ozone is produced in large amounts yearly and is naturally destroyed and reformed, but enough CFCs make the destruction greater than the formation, which means large reductions in CFC will restore the ozone layer over a few years.
Greenhouse gases, however, are produced more slowly and destroyed more slowly in nature, meaning that extra amounts will take a long time to go away even if greenhouse gas production is halted.

So we should definitely slow usage of fossil fuels dramtically, even though they don't contribute to ozone destruction.
Santin
28-11-2003, 10:25
For those of us concerned with how this game actually works, an environmental resolution ALWAYS hurts the economy, regardless of its contents.
Wilkshire
28-11-2003, 21:52
For those of us concerned with how this game actually works, an environmental resolution ALWAYS hurts the economy, regardless of its contents.

True, but the well being of the planet and the survival of the human race is more important than our economies.
28-11-2003, 22:14
...will bad things happen if we don't cut down on greenhouse gas emissions? I don't want Platovia turned into a desert. If all my citizens die of thirst, who will be left to worship Platova? If this resolution isn't passed, I'm going to have to stock up on water supply.

VOTE YES, OR ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO ME!!!!
28-11-2003, 22:23
I have a feeling my "strong" economy will turn into an average one after this passed :cry: . Thank god for issues :D
Santin
28-11-2003, 22:49
True, but the well being of the planet and the survival of the human race is more important than our economies.

Yes, we should blast ourselves into a stone age now so that we don't do it later.