NationStates Jolt Archive

In light of the recent racial and gender equality proposals, I hereby announce the proposal of the...


Recognizing the scrouge of institutionalized discrimination, yet careful not to intrude on individualism, the freedom of association, and other freedoms of private individuals, be the following points resolved:

Section I. No nation, nor the United Nations, shall deny to any citizen the equal protection of the laws on account of race.
Section II. No nation, nor the United Nations, shall expand or abridge the privileges or responsibilities of any citizen on account of race.
Section III. Enforced racial segregation in public places is hereby abolished.
Section IV. That the burden of proof in proving racial discrimination shall be that, with all else being equal, a person of one race was given significant advantage over another.
Section V. No nation, nor the United Nations, shall deny to any citizen the equal protection of the laws on account of gender, except in cases where gender is the actual issue at hand.
Section VI. That gender segregation in public places may only be done on a separate-but-equal basis.
Section VII. That all married persons, regardless of gender, shall have the right to divorce.

What do you all think?

Since there are no hidden anti-liberal undertones, I like it.

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Since there are no hidden anti-liberal undertones, I like it.


You... insult me Letila. Since when would I EVER put anti-liberal undertones into my proposals? :lol:

Take out the part about not being able to divorce. Some theocracies would like to enforce their religion and marriage is to them a religious institution.

I think its worth becoming official

In light of the recent racial and gender equality proposals, I hereby announce the proposal of the...

What do you all think?

Not bad. I say we should pass this one. And I'm glad the people didn't have to enforce their own rights, considering your otherwise neo-lib thing ^^

Good work

Take out the part about not being able to divorce. Some theocracies would like to enforce their religion and marriage is to them a religious institution.

Ok.

don't have much to comment on this if it comes to a resolution I'll vote in favor of it

I'm prepared to approve it as soon as it is introduced.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate

No nation, nor the United Nations, shall deny to any citizen the equal protection of the laws on account of race.

good.

No nation, nor the United Nations, shall expand or abridge the privileges or responsibilities of any citizen on account of race.

good. if you don't hold to evolution. who's to say someone isn't genetically superior?

Enforced racial segregation in public places is hereby abolished.

public places? good.

That the burden of proof in proving racial discrimination shall be that, with all else being equal, a person of one race was given significant advantage over another.

good.

No nation, nor the United Nations, shall deny to any citizen the equal protection of the laws on account of gender, except in cases where gender is the actual issue at hand.

good enough...


That gender segregation in public places may only be done on a separate-but-equal basis.

good enough...

That all married persons, regardless of gender, shall have the right to divorce.

why? why? why? isn't that standard anyway? no one is compelled to stay married are they? drop this one.

heh... with only that change, i'd be for it. though i'd really be for a proposal which abolished race entirely. we are the same species, right? when we refer to each other as different races, it creates divisions and makes other "races" seem unhuman...

I'm prepared to approve it as soon as it is introduced.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate

Waiting....

I got the endorsements i need and I have submitted the proposal minus point 7. It's called "Rational Equal Rights Act"

I got the endorsements i need and I have submitted the proposal minus point 7. It's called "Rational Equal Rights Act"

We are pleased to file the first approval of this proposal.

(Note to delegates: It's currently on page 25.)

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate

The Great Nation of Putergeeks supports this proposal.

The Great Nation of Putergeeks supports this proposal.

Thank you.

No nation, nor the United Nations, shall expand or abridge the privileges or responsibilities of any citizen on account of race.

good. if you don't hold to evolution. who's to say someone isn't genetically superior?

No one's "genetically superior". Some genes may be more suited to different goals, but there is no such thing as "genetically superior"

No nation, nor the United Nations, shall expand or abridge the privileges or responsibilities of any citizen on account of race.

good. if you don't hold to evolution. who's to say someone isn't genetically superior?

No one's "genetically superior". Some genes may be more suited to different goals, but there is no such thing as "genetically superior"

You should probably say no race is genetically superior. But I think it's reasonable to say that some individuals are better suited to many, many, many more things than others, therefore being genetically superior.

The test of genetic superiority is survival and reproduction in nature. With society, we've basically discarded natural selection. That's why, while some individuals might be genetically superior, genetic superiority doesn't mean what it used to. It used to mean survival. Now it means you have an easier time playing football or aceing the SATs.

We'll have to induce evolution with technology if we want more.

Approved it, though the divorce bit should have been left in. Just because one religion (catholic church - correct me if there are more) believes something, it shouldn't be law. Also, I would have liked to have seen something doing the same for sexuality as for race. Though then again that probably wouldn't pass.

If we're going to talk about genetics, wouldn't it be most logical to say that the most common species is the most genetically superior, because their genes have been most successful in spreading themselves? Thus it would make sense to say that most bacteria and viruses are gentically superior to all other life on Earth. :wink:

or perhaps the most evolved would be the ~least~ in number on the planet... those who are just beginning to show through... though they're not in small numbers because they're dying off, they're just coming into being. hoorah for the rare superhumans! :P

or perhaps the most evolved would be the ~least~ in number on the planet... those who are just beginning to show through... though they're not in small numbers because they're dying off, they're just coming into being. hoorah for the rare superhumans! :P

The human race is too big and too well supported for natural evolution to occur. People with some genetic diseases could never survive in teh wild but can survive in civil society, thus the diseases aren't eliminated. I'm not saying that's bad, but what I am saying is that further human evolution will NOT happen on a natural level.

A great proposal. I will vote for it if I get the chance.

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
They say, "Support the
Anti-Racism Act."

or perhaps the most evolved would be the ~least~ in number on the planet... those who are just beginning to show through... though they're not in small numbers because they're dying off, they're just coming into being. hoorah for the rare superhumans! :P

The human race is too big and too well supported for natural evolution to occur. People with some genetic diseases could never survive in teh wild but can survive in civil society, thus the diseases aren't eliminated. I'm not saying that's bad, but what I am saying is that further human evolution will NOT happen on a natural level.

Well... some still can, such as in extremely poor countries. e.g. in Ethiopia, someone who can last longer without food is still more likely to survive.

On a side note, it's quite interesting about how these genetic diseases survive natural selection. For instance, sickle-cell anaemia is caused by a recessive gene, so if you get one healthy gene from one parent and a "faulty" one from the other, you aren't a sufferer but you are a carrier (whereas if you get two faulty genes you're a sufferer) - and carriers are less susceptible to malaria, which is why sickle-cell anaemia is far more common in West Africans.

or perhaps the most evolved would be the ~least~ in number on the planet... those who are just beginning to show through... though they're not in small numbers because they're dying off, they're just coming into being. hoorah for the rare superhumans! :P

The human race is too big and too well supported for natural evolution to occur. People with some genetic diseases could never survive in teh wild but can survive in civil society, thus the diseases aren't eliminated. I'm not saying that's bad, but what I am saying is that further human evolution will NOT happen on a natural level.

Well... some still can, such as in extremely poor countries. e.g. in Ethiopia, someone who can last longer without food is still more likely to survive.

On a side note, it's quite interesting about how these genetic diseases survive natural selection. For instance, sickle-cell anaemia is caused by a recessive gene, so if you get one healthy gene from one parent and a "faulty" one from the other, you aren't a sufferer but you are a carrier (whereas if you get two faulty genes you're a sufferer) - and carriers are less susceptible to malaria, which is why sickle-cell anaemia is far more common in West Africans.

Whereas once you leave West Africa your single-recesive is harmful more than helpful. This prevents you from really outcompeting too much.

This reminds me of a funny story. Everyone in most East Asian countries get Malaria immunizations when they're little babies. I still have the scar from that and when I first realized I had it I thought it was a skin tumor or something and asked my parents to see a doctor lol.