NationStates Jolt Archive

(I apologize for the post under the mentioned post and have moved it here.)

As President of the Republic of Vaston, I must express my dismay at the passing of this resolution. The rules are clearly stated in the "Mandate of the UN" sticky post. It says the following: "So, in conclusion we can see that the U.N. does affect not domestic policy unless a people are in need of it."

This resolution has devastated the economy of Vaston, as well as many of my fellow U.N members' economies. The U.N has overstepped its bounds and has affected *domestic* policy. I call for a repeal of this resolution immediately.

Wait wait wait.

The real-world UN (the one with branches in Geneva and other nice buildings around the world) doesn't interfere with domestic policy. It is, however, the raison d'etre of the NationStates UN as a perusal of previous resolutions will demonstrate.

Aside from the mandate of the UN, I would wholeheartedly support a "counter proposal" that would be worded as a repeal. I understand from other threads that you cannot actually "undo" a resolution. But wouldnt it be possible to craft a proposal to "counter-weight" the effects of the one passed today?

That is true, a repeal would not be possible, but a resolution stating that the UN cannot affect domestic policy unless the people of a said nation are in danger is in order.

Aside from the mandate of the UN, I would wholeheartedly support a "counter proposal" that would be worded as a repeal. I understand from other threads that you cannot actually "undo" a resolution. But wouldnt it be possible to craft a proposal to "counter-weight" the effects of the one passed today?
In the abstract, yes. My guess is that you could categorise it as "Free Trade" without any great problems. It's only a guess because the actual wording of the proposal would be the litmus test, as it usually is.

But could it be called a "repeal"? To set forth a "free trade" or "corporate rights" proposal wouldnt necessarily make it clear what the intention was. To call the proposal a "repeal of ____" would be much more to the point.

I'd infinitely prefer not to have you call it "Repeal _____". The last thing I want is for people to pop up and say "well, you've said that repealing is out, so why are you letting this proposal get through?" It's a tricky situation, but unfortunately that's the way it'd run.

New Plexia will NOT recognize this resolution, ever. If that means that she must withdraw from UN, so be it.

New Plexia will NOT recognize this resolution, ever. If that means that she must withdraw from UN, so be it.
Which one? The one that just passed, or the potential counter-resolution?

"The Commonewealth of Derminia is outraged at this new resolution which has financially crippled the country with policies that are nothing more than domestic issues!"

Prime Minister Kan Tut

Everyone in Albany (my region) has had their economies wrecked. This resolution must be repealed!

The neophyte nation Chipland, headed up by a newcomer to the world stage is suffering immensely under the effects of this proposal. Perhaps it was a mistake to join the UN at this time as this body of law recently introduced is evidently unfriendly to fragile developing nations. The Armed Republic of Chipland had an ambivalent sentiment towards the resolution and abstained from voting though firmly believes in the necessity of the UN and the values it upholds.

However, the survival of our nation is of primary concern and what good are labour rights and quality of life if abject poverty is pervasive? The Chiplandic government insists this relotution is either withdrawn, revamped or the inclusion of a notwithstanding clause (line item veto) to insulate developing nations from unwelcome harmful interfernce in domestic economic affairs until such time the playing field is levelled.

The Department of Economic Development is monitoring this situation closely and will be submitting a final report to Congress very soon. It is government's position that withdrawal from the UN is not in our long term interests however may be a necessary evil; a decision that will not be entered into lightly nor without its own repercussions. In any case, public sentiment and economic forecasts predict Chipland will withdraw utterly and permanently from the UN in a matter of days though the government will continue to unilaterally uphold its ideals and law to the best of its ability.

The Disputed Territories of New bruno, their country ravaged into a Socialist Democracy, have resigned from the United Nations in a desperate hope to retain our democratic values.

Better to have no United Nations than to belong to a communist organization.

Wouldn't a Resolution saying that all UN Resolutions , in order to be binding on any Member Nation, Must first be Ratified by said nations work?

I can envision a system much like the "Issues" system we have now only dealing with "Passed UN Resolutions". :)

I hate to disapoint you but resolutions to repeal resolutions rarely (if ever) pass.

I hate to disapoint you but resolutions to repeal resolutions rarely (if ever) pass.

Same thing was said about the last Equal Rights Proposal about equal rights proposals (ie..thet always get passed) but wow..it got blasted out of the water like every law and resolution did with the passing of this proposal...

Personaly, what I did when I was in the U.N. was that I RPed that I ignored the UN resolutions and continued my affairs any way. I know that Technicaly this is against the rules, but I took some minor liberties in my Role Play.

My attitude was thus, "I am doing what I want, and God help the man that tries to stop me"

I have examined the resolution to repeal the labor union resolution, and I am quite certain that it will not pass in its current form. Many people do not want the UN to outlaw unions anymore than they want it to make them mandatory.