NationStates Jolt Archive


Castration should be banned in all Nations

25-11-2003, 06:33
Seriously people that would suck.
25-11-2003, 06:33
Sounds like a worthy cause.
Spookistan and Jakalah
25-11-2003, 06:35
What about the people--and they do exist--who want to be eunuchs?
25-11-2003, 06:48
Alright then, what about "castration as a form of punishment should be banned"? Either that or saying to those who want to become eunuchs "too bad, guys and gals".

Just playing devil's advocate for the moment, I've got no idea how I'd vote if it came down to it.
25-11-2003, 07:12
Would this apply to "sentient beings" only, or ALL castration? Thinking in terms of farm animals, etc. that are regularly castrated...
Ryanania
25-11-2003, 07:14
Rape should=castration.
Roania
25-11-2003, 07:16
Ah, yes. The United Nations, hallmark of liberty, is now considering allowing rapists to go unpunished in a fitting manner.

How... expected. :)
25-11-2003, 07:49
rapist can be punished in so many diffrent ways. In the Confederacy we like to use the Stump and Sledge method, but other in my region use a glass rod method.

In regard to farm animals, what you do to your live stock genitals in the privacy of your nation is your own business, but be warned Sheep do not lie.

As for eunuchs this is a debateable issue. As you know humans tend to change their mind quite frequently and in this case is imposible and might cause more problems if they weren't alowed to lose their wiener.


Acidental castraction on the other hand should be a private matter handeled only by nations leaders.. Those people like the aboved who want to know more about their animals genitals are more at risk then others.
Moontian
25-11-2003, 10:39
In Moontian, castration is not allowed as a punishment. However, there has not been a rapist in Moontian for a long time (the issue has not come up for me.) When the last case went to trial, for a female teacher abusing both boys and girls at a secondary school, all the charges were dropped by the 'victims,' and the government did not get involved either way.
25-11-2003, 16:45
This is in responce to the guy who wants to be castrated (the delagate from Trasherland)
Der Fuhrer Dyszel
25-11-2003, 16:53
I firmly believe it is the nation's sole choice on whether castration should be accepted or banned. Sure, you may not like it, but others may think that is the most effecient way to punish their criminals or sex offenders.

If you do not like it, the you should not accept that option, and that would be your choice. We should not punish people who have deep laid reasons on why they support the castration issue by banning it altogether.

Sure it is unethical in some nations and morals, but as the game says, you create your nation off of your political views, whether you want to praise or torture your people.
25-11-2003, 17:02
Rape should=castration.

NO!!

Rape should= Death penatly
New Babel
25-11-2003, 17:09
castration can't be banned. it's one of the best solutions to a rape situation. c'mon... it's pretty much a sure cure.

is it barbaric? inhumane? if it is, what do you call rape?
Thelas
25-11-2003, 17:12
Rape should=castration.

NO!!

Rape should= Death penatly

NO!

Rape=Castration and Forced Labor for Life! :twisted:
25-11-2003, 17:27
No!!!

Rape is a terrible crime therefore the ONLY decent punishment is death!
Thelas
25-11-2003, 17:34
No!!!

Rape is a terrible crime therefore the ONLY decent punishment is death!

Listen, yes Rape is a horible crime, I know a person who got raped, she almost commited suicide, that is why the punishment should last for a long time. Imagine the pain that is caused by having the testes ripped out, and then imagine if you have to work for 20 hours every day for the rest of your life.

That is our punishment, nice ain't it?
25-11-2003, 17:45
No!!!

Rape is a terrible crime therefore the ONLY decent punishment is death!

Listen, yes Rape is a horible crime, I know a person who got raped, she almost commited suicide, that is why the punishment should last for a long time. Imagine the pain that is caused by having the testes ripped out, and then imagine if you have to work for 20 hours every day for the rest of your life.

That is our punishment, nice ain't it?

a nice slow painful death is more approiate. It is a crime in itself to keep such a person alive.
25-11-2003, 17:52
So you will punish a man for a crime with a crime against nature? Death is reasonable, life impirsonment is too. Castration and torture only sadates bloodlust. Those of the criminal and those of the ruling officials. There is no way castration is a fair punishment. How can your government correct the error is they sentenced a inocent man to castration. Atleast with death, the suposed criminal doesn't have to suffer through the humiliation of have his manhood forcefully removed. Are your countrys no more then bands of barbarian tribes?
25-11-2003, 17:52
So you will punish a man for a crime with a crime against nature? Death is reasonable, life impirsonment is too. Castration and torture only sadates bloodlust. Those of the criminal and those of the ruling officials. There is no way castration is a fair punishment. How can your government correct the error is they sentenced a inocent man to castration. Atleast with death, the suposed criminal doesn't have to suffer through the humiliation of have his manhood forcefully removed. Are your countrys no more then bands of barbarian tribes?
25-11-2003, 18:31
The United Nations shouldn't step in on this matter. There are two types of criminal deterants for countries to have.

The first is a uniform punishment method which basically equates to time served depending on the crime. It's a slide scale and judges decide the length of imprisonment based on the degree of the crime. The furthest extent being life in prison reserved for the biggest of these crimes (murder, treason, etc.).

The second is a "punishment fitting the crime" method. This is easily summed up as someone causing a death willingly, and their life being forfeit. Some countries take this to the Nth degree by chopping off hands for thievery or cutting out tongues for slander. Castration as a punishment for rapists would fall into this category, and in my opinion, lean more towards the accepted "capitol punishment" than the more savagely enforced cutting off of hands and such.

Whatever the case, having the UN enforce what type of crime deterent methods are instituted by countries (in regards to this, not genocide of a race or torture methods) is not a good idea.
25-11-2003, 18:54
No!!!

Rape is a terrible crime therefore the ONLY decent punishment is death!

Listen, yes Rape is a horible crime, I know a person who got raped, she almost commited suicide, that is why the punishment should last for a long time. Imagine the pain that is caused by having the testes ripped out, and then imagine if you have to work for 20 hours every day for the rest of your life.

That is our punishment, nice ain't it?

a nice slow painful death is more approiate. It is a crime in itself to keep such a person alive.

I agree with both of you that rape is a horrible crime and deserves extensive punishment. Both of you have missed a HUGE issue however: rape is also a fairly nebulous crime. It's all very well to say "yep, we're going to rip the testes out of all rapists" until you see the young, gentle 22 year old who hurt a girl's feelings, and the jury was swayed by a pile of circumstantial evidence into convicting him. Suppose he didn't do anything? Suppose you were next? Permanent, irreversible punishments are an extremely touchy human rights issue, the Windreaver government has determined that the best way to deal with this is to have the world's most effective and well-trained police force.

Foamheads appears to have posted regarding my point while I've been sitting here typing... what I have to add is this: better research into the psychological disorders which can cause rape, as well as thosewhcih can result from it, will substantially reduce the impact of this horrible crime on each of our nations.

One final query: Since you're so bloodthirstily chasing the right to chop off men's balls, what would you to to female rapists? It's not as frequent as males, but it IS something which happens, especially in North America...

More importantly, does castration really work, or do those people who would normally commit rape just move on to more twisted torments of others? Isn't resolving the actual issue more important than gleefully mutilating people?
26-11-2003, 04:10
Castration won't work, so it's best to sentence them to death!

That way there's no discrimination against female rapists.

Kill 'em all I say!