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I would like to say thanks to all who posted convincing arguments on the current, diabolically worded proposal. I just looked and it was ~6100 yes against ~6400 no :D :D :D :D

I would like to say thanks to all who posted convincing arguments on the current, diabolically worded proposal. I just looked and it was ~6100 yes against ~6400 no :D :D :D :DBeleive me, it was the quantity of arguments not the quality that did it :roll:

No one sent any telegrams to my region, yet the debate in the UN forum convinced us.

Good job folks, I'd like to see more of it happening.

-Morgan, Emperor of Morgain.

thank god, it's about time the silent majority finaly spoke up and is not letting these crazy left wingers trample all over us.
we must find a way of getting rid of these idiotic proposals before they come to vote in the general assembly.

And here comes the facist adgenda...

thank god, it's about time the silent majority finaly spoke up and is not letting these crazy left wingers trample all over us.
we must find a way of getting rid of these idiotic proposals before they come to vote in the general assembly.

it's not so much left wingers as it is people being ignorant. I'm very left wing and could see the flaws in this the moment I saw it. I voted no on the last 3 resolutions (since I've been a UN delegate). People see what looks to be nice, vote for it, and never give it another thought.

Beleive me, it was the quantity of arguments not the quality that did it :roll:

Well if it were just a bunch of "this is teh sukc" I dont think we woulda stopped it.

Or they get bowed over by a wave of mindless propoganda... :roll:

Assimilated Humanity, in celebration for this triumph, would like to offer all nations various "meats" and "wine" in celebration.

No one sent any telegrams to my region, yet the debate in the UN forum convinced us.

Good job folks, I'd like to see more of it happening.

-Morgan, Emperor of Morgain.

Dear Emperor Morgan,

The Federation of the 510 Techcropolis is exceedingly pleased to hear of the success of the forums. Early on, it seemed that far too few politicians were examining them, and considering the strongest arguments of both side of the debate before voting.

While I would have liked to have been able to have sent you a telegram to bring up my state's objections, I only had the time to cover about one quarter of the delegates. However, you bring up a good point about the need for organization and delegation, so that future telegram campaigns can be more wide reaching, instead of having very uneven distributions. On the next issue that has serious flaws, it would be great to have a campaign done in this manner.

-Speaker of the Federation

thank god, it's about time the silent majority finaly spoke up and is not letting these crazy left wingers trample all over us.
we must find a way of getting rid of these idiotic proposals before they come to vote in the general assembly.

it's not so much left wingers as it is people being ignorant. I'm very left wing and could see the flaws in this the moment I saw it. I voted no on the last 3 resolutions (since I've been a UN delegate). People see what looks to be nice, vote for it, and never give it another thought.

The Federation of the 510 Techcropolis is proud to have the Commonwealth of Discotequia as it's UN Delegate.

-Speaker of the Federation

It's astonishing to see a large part of the UN actually voting based on the content of a proposal rather than its title. Maybe the quality of proposals submitted to the UN will actually improve (it can't get any worse) due to this grass-roots campaign. Thank you to all who participated!

Activism sucks when it's not your monopoly, eh, Eugenia?

I do my best to prevent my fellow nation from being given the shaft

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And here comes the facist adgenda...

what can be more fascist than a government saying THIS:

"Do Not Over-Analyze this,
you must not look into this resolution too deeply"


And yet THAT is the words of the nation that presented this Resolution!

Talk about shades of George Orwell's 1984!!

So tell me...what fascism do you fear? That fascism you can see and it tells you not to think, like this resolution and its author....or not? If this isnt fascist doctrine, I dont know what is.

Misinformation is the end-all, be-all of fascism and yet you seem to have that well in your hands, when you put up a "soundbite" of something taken out of context only to further your agenda...well I must conratulate you, your well on you way to becoming a real politician.

when I quoted your proposal, I quoted the entire thing, so dont you be acusing me of misinforming.

btw, UME, if you are still interested in making flags I will set up a office for ya in teh EP ofsite forum.

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I'm sorry that you have gotten the impression that I was addressing you with my comment. This is the exact behavior I warned you about, when I said that some reps are so eager to want to argue and or confront that they close off all other senses (including common). It is so very obvious whom I was addressing, because my post is right underneath it. Unless your telling us that you exist as both nations?

Thank you for the info and yes I am definately interested :-)

Please join me in this chat portal on real discussion, truth, and perhaps enlightenment for all (including myself) on this proposal Equality For All.

Monday November 17th, 2003...7pm EST (12am GMT)

http://pub42.bravenet.com/chat/show.php/3557937850

Dear Speaker of the Federation:

The Emperor of Morgain further thinks most of the resolutions that *have* passed have been poorly worded as well, and believes there should be significantly greater moderation to avoid bad proposals being entered into the queue in the first place.

The Emperor of Morgain is at present busy crafting a proposal that should be very well worded when complete, and looks forward to it being voted on principally on the merit of its argument.

Feel free to Telegram me.

-Morgan, Emperor of Morgain

Beleive me, it was the quantity of arguments not the quality that did it :roll:

A closer look at that statement makes me think you voted for the resolution. Are you unable to realize the encredible arguements some people used to show how the wording was terrible? There's a reason so many people were upset by the resolution. Many arguements weren't so wonderful, but the convincing ones were quite geared to be against the resolution.

Lol Eugenia.

Maybe this is why people are against democracy, it turns into mob rule.

However, I, after considering the position for a long time, decided that it really is a bad resolution with the wording, nothing else. I would be fine if the word sentient beings was added into the resolution, other than the second clause about sexual preferences. But that's a whole different arguement.

Rad Kom
UN AMbassador
The Fiefdom of Baron Porkonia

it was a filibuster it was lobbying. The filibuster is when you never let the thing come to a vote

filibuster is when the people take the floor and talk until the thing up for vote is gone, and they dont stop talking, therefore not allowing a vote at all. Certainly not what happened here

meh, its a cool word nevertheless. Ok so maybe it was a bad choice of word, however, we all got the point, right? [And no I am not contradiciting my statements about proper wording because a thread is immeasureably less important than an actual resolution.]

lol, it is a cool word

indeed! w007. Filibusting is l337!

filibuster is when the people take the floor and talk until the thing up for vote is gone, and they dont stop talking, therefore not allowing a vote at all. Certainly not what happened here

We sent so many t-grams it pissed everyone off, so it's like boring the other delegates to death with a really long speech. So it's a semi-filibuster ;). My favorite kind of filibuster is when the Speaker of hte House "accidentally" misses the motions to move the question :lol:.

ahhh yes, politics at best :wink:

filibuster is when the people take the floor and talk until the thing up for vote is gone, and they dont stop talking, therefore not allowing a vote at all. Certainly not what happened here

We sent so many t-grams it pissed everyone off, so it's like boring the other delegates to death with a really long speech. So it's a semi-filibuster ;). My favorite kind of filibuster is when the Speaker of hte House "accidentally" misses the motions to move the question :lol:.

Did you catch the U.S. Senate Wednesday/Thursday/Friday?

This has been an OOC post.

filibuster is when the people take the floor and talk until the thing up for vote is gone, and they dont stop talking, therefore not allowing a vote at all. Certainly not what happened here

We sent so many t-grams it pissed everyone off, so it's like boring the other delegates to death with a really long speech. So it's a semi-filibuster ;). My favorite kind of filibuster is when the Speaker of hte House "accidentally" misses the motions to move the question :lol:.

Did you catch the U.S. Senate Wednesday/Thursday/Friday?

This has been an OOC post.

Yes. I do Student Congress, and my favorite thing to do is Filibust. That and have a corrupt Speaker election. There's a time limit on your speeches, so the way to filibust is either get the Speaker to "accidentally" ignore certain motions, or just make a bunch of silly inane motions yourself. Your motion to table after every speech so people get sick and tired of you and just vote to table to get you to stop saying it :lol:.

ANd lastly of course, you can revert to the True Spirit of the Filibuster™ and just yell "Objection!" whenever someone makes a motion to move the question before the motion gets seconded. That's what we did back during the Civil Rights Movement.

This resolution is practically a death sentence. We are confused by the number of people voting for it.

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since when does people acting stupedly as long as it sounds PC suprising to you.

This resolution is practically a death sentence. We are confused by the number of people voting for it.



Like most bad things in this game, it is propped up by the apathy of its supporters.

That said, no major Delegate supported this monstrosity, but about 5000 individuals did.

This resolution is practically a death sentence. We are confused by the number of people voting for it.



Like most bad things in this game, it is propped up by the apathy of its supporters.

That said, no major Delegate supported this monstrosity, but about 5000 individuals did.Because many of these delegates were so annoyed and harassed by the nonsensical, hystarical spam that they changed their votes. Now that is what I call apathy.

Good work, people.
This is a high water mark for cooperative efoort and reason in NS.
And, 1 Loop? Great flag- cute anime girl!

none of the big delegates ever supported it

We suspsect that Free Outer Eugenia has lately been attending Al Gore's workshop, "How to Accept Defeat Gracefully."

I knew it wasn't a filibuster, but I figured 2 things: 1 is that it's a cool word 8) 2 is that in this setting this is as close to a filibuster as we could get :wink:

Good work, people.
This is a high water mark for cooperative efoort and reason in NS.
And, 1 Loop? Great flag- cute anime girl!

you know who the police girl in the front is right?
it is Megaman,
in the story for the Misadventures of Tron Bonne (original JP version)
Rockman gets trashed really bad and no one has any suitable spare parts, except Miss Tron (Kawaiee) however all her parts are for herself , Girl robot parts, and bam, Rockman becomes Denise, Kattlox Island PD.



as for Politics, well this is a bad proposal, and I was glad to work against it, however did you notice, that the people making the goof y policies, will make a proposal with absolutly Nothing to do with children,
such as Nuclear regulatory policy and at the end or soemwhere in the bill they will tack, For the children, in fact in a US state, I wont say which one, they actually tacked a modified version of the Neo Nazi 14 words. (changed it for All childs not just white Chitlins)
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(note that last part under the pic will only be valid as long as I have this flag up ^-^)

I was one of the delegate who intially was in favor of this resolution but with reservations with the wording. And being in the legal industry in real life and the arguements presented, I have to change my vote to a resounding "No". Reword the resolution and I will revote.

We suspsect that Free Outer Eugenia has lately been attending Al Gore's workshop, "How to Accept Defeat Gracefully."Unlike gore, this resolution seems like that it will actually get less votes cast for it than against it...

A filibuster? Not quite...but it definitely has been endless tg'ing of people. I might add, the vote isn't over yet. Having gone through some tough politics earlier this evening, I am not willing to count our chickens before they hatch.

Grin-what a grand way to spend my evenings.

Lady Tabitha

I would be more worried too, but the against voters have gained "thousands" of votes while the "for" voters gained a few hundred. I guess those that vote later vote better ;)

Gab gab gab gab gab gabgab gabb gab gab gaabbbble gabble gabble gooble gobble goobble gobb;e.

Ahem,

Actually this entire fiasco of the shot down (currently) proposal is a positive sign that voters are reading the forums before throwing the voting stone, and . . . that mass communication of ideas on the U.N. is possible with enough effort, to the benefit of all members and future members, oh yeah, and it signifies the U.N. is achieving its purpose in making the bonds between countries stronger, and increasing communication.

Which is much goodness.

Fare thee well, all,

A Rep of Komokom.