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Equality For All
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights Strength: Strong Proposed by: United Middle-Earth
Description: My nation is host to many different types of races and civilizations, all of whom live symbioticaly and respect eachother's cultures and right of existence. We ask that all member states of the UN adhere to that policy as well.

-ALL LIVING BEINGS no matter who or what they may be, have the inherent right of existence.

That they may live as they see fit as long as they do not cause harm to another. In simpler terms "Live and let live." If a nation employs slaves for labor for example, we submit that they must end the practice or leave the UN voluntarily.

That the aparthied inspired classification of sexual preference be erradicated from being used within the confines of government terminology.

We propose that all nations under the UN charter respect the very essence of life and vow to preserve and protect it, in all its many forms whether human, or otherwise.

This is the resolution how it is proposed. But it says all living beings. This means that my cat has also a culture and i may not harm her. OK but when we look at pigs, cows... and we may not harm them (like killing them for mead) we will all be veganists or something.
It mustnt be living beings but human beings. Therefore i vote against.

I know. I've fought this proposal alot.

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg

Do Not Over-Analyze this, you must not look into this resolution too deeply it means exactly what it says...

Some have mentioned that there are resolutions that have been put in place that address some of the issues, I disagree.

The End Slavery resolution had been specific to declare the following:
..."I propose that the following human rights "...

I'm sure you have noticed that more then just some nations in this cyber-created world aren't even human fiction or non, real or imaginary who’s to say here? I have seen nations inhabited by talking beasts, vampires, elves, dwarves, (such as ours)...We feel that our nation is not under the protection of the past resolution and this is an amendment to that.

Also,

There are two more resolutions that are being Retro-Amended of a sort to include ALL (Key word), that is the Sexual Freedom resolution, and the Gay Rights resolution. The former resolution asks for sexual privacy within one's home out of reach of the state...and the latter asks for recognition of marriages and unions from the government. Don't get me wrong these were very VERY good resolutions that were much needed, but, I do have to say that our simply stated yet very effective proposal, asks for the banishment of the archaic Government usage and practice of sexual categorization based on bias. The government should not have to recognize a gay marriage for example, because with the passage of our proposal such a thing would not be allowed a categorization, marriages between two (in some cultures more) life energies is all it should be considered...a union, a marriage, that's all. Not a gay marriage or straight marriage. This bi-lateral recognition only breeds hatred, prejudice, bigotry and is only good for creating a schism between people.

I have brought this to the floor now, because looking at the proposals that are pending approval from MEMBER Nations, and Regional Delegates alike, the sense of this attitude of hatred and inequality is the norm for these nations, and if they feel that way great, but they should be asked to step down from UN member status.

Our great nation, like many that you would find congregating in many regions, have more then just a human populace if any inhabit them at all, and we are member states of the UN, and wish to be recognized as well. Even the category of the proposal states Human Rights...well those rights need to extend to ALL...human or otherwise.

For those nations that think that the wording is incorrect, first I ask again do not over-analyze this proposal. The individual governments have the rights to a degree of flexible interpretations and the UN therefore must be careful not to become too specific in details and not allow for such interpretive rights.

However, we understand your confusion, and to clarify, the language need not be changed. For the simplicity of the original wording is exactly what you want it to say. The key word is BEINGS. The choice of that word is not accidental, it was used after I researched the many definitions of the word and the following best commutes that meaning:

Being (Be"ing), n.
2. That which exists in any form, whether it be corporeal or spiritual, actual or ideal that understands and has a sense of "being v." acknowledges its existence and that of others; living existence, as distinguished from a thing without life; as, a human being; spiritual beings.
2a.Sentient

I believe also that the meaning of harm is simple. Every nation has it's own moral beliefs and if sex in the streets is not harming anyone then so it may be. However, if your government is ruled by a religous leader or follow a religous doctrine, well then sex in the streets may be viewed as someone infringing on the rights of those who do not wish to see that sort of thing and can be viewed as harmful to them. Such things are up to the individual government. Harm is again a word that was researched and the following definition was common from many different sources.

Harm (härm), n.
1. Any physical damage to the body caused by violence or accident or fracture etc.
5. Inflicted mental distress with measurable results such as psychological and or physical apparitions.

Again, the definition was explained above, and unless the nation is inhabited by or ruled by a species that is sentient (ie., talking cows, vampires that become bats, or insert creature here) then I don't see how animal rights activists can use this proposal for meat consumption banning. In fact I personally find animal activists to be hypocrites in the sense that they ask to ban meat eating but some species are carnivorous by NATURE, and is needed for their survival including most animals, and being that sentient species such as the human race for example, are technically animals... then they must respect that fact of NATURE. Human beings, on the other hand, are NOT by nature cannibals, although some societies live and thrive as such the killing of their own species is widely considered immoral, but that is not what I should be getting into.

As to the concern of anti-abortion activism, this cannot be used to abolish or outlaw abortion. For one thing it is not proven scientifically when the fetus gains the consciousness needed to be considered a sentient being, and although it is a life force, it's a life force created by the mother and father, and as such can be reabsorbed into the maternal life force, in fact all life can be said to return or be absorbed into the metaphysical cycle. Therefore again the answer to your question is no.

I hope to have answered all your questions in a courteous manner. Feel free to contact me directly if you wish me to address any other concerns.




Respectfully,
Emperor Dalith

We'll be keeping an eye on you if the resolution passes. It will be interesting to see what you do next...

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and really big butts!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg

ALL LIVING BEINGS no matter who or what they may be, have the inherent right of existence.


all the things covered by your four basic food groups, we have mentioned that enough,
here are some more living things protected by this resolution
Anthrax spores
Ricin
Polio virus
Aids Virus
Cancer cells
herpes virus
Ebola
those fish in the amazon who swm up your eurethra
the blood cells expelled during a simple nosebleed
Botulism
the Black Plague
malaria

there are many many things that this bill will protect, and I for one will not abide by it, in fact if it passes my country will provide weapons to all nations willing to fight any nation who supports it, we have already prepped our stockpiles of "Special" arms.

ALL LIVING BEINGS no matter who or what they may be, have the inherent right of existence.


all the things covered by your four basic food groups, we have mentioned that enough,
here are some more living things protected by this resolution
Anthrax spores
Ricin
Polio virus
Aids Virus
Cancer cells
herpes virus
Ebola
those fish in the amazon who swm up your eurethra
the blood cells expelled during a simple nosebleed
Botulism
the Black Plague
malaria

there are many many things that this bill will protect, and I for one will not abide by it, in fact if it passes my country will provide weapons to all nations willing to fight any nation who supports it, we have already prepped our stockpiles of "Special" arms.

All of your examples are wrong and flawed...they all DO harm.

when using those weapons, make sure that when you read the instruction don't just pull the trigger...you have to aim, and even load the weapon first...seeing that you don't know how to completely read and understand something I thought I should give you a little help.

The problem is that the definitions you use, are only one of the possible definitions. You did not specify WHICH definition is used in the resolution itself. You only specify it here. In other words, the arguments you're posting up should have been part of the resolution. As such, your resolution is badly worded and should be struck down.

Ok Id liekto see you try to tell a Cancer cell it cannot perform it s life funciton because it violates the law,

you see all thses things sure they cause damage, or harm, but they dont follow the law, if they did we could have banned the common cold years ago, however our doctors and people have to follow the law, and therefore if say Elrond gets Prostate cancer, then he is doomed to die of it, as he cannot legally seek medical aid, as doing so would violate teh cancer cells rifht to live,


also I just thought of another one,

EVERY EGG carreid in the ovaries of EVERY woman must be fertilized as when she experiences Menses she will expell an egg nad therby harm it by killing it and violating its right to life, also all of these egs must be fertilized by artificial insemination, as a man usualy expells liek 400k sperms and only 1 gets to fertilize the egg, therefore he has just violated 399,999 counts of the law by allowing those sperms to die.

500 billion population here we come.

The problem is that the definitions you use, are only one of the possible definitions. You did not specify WHICH definition is used in the resolution itself. You only specify it here. In other words, the arguments you're posting up should have been part of the resolution. As such, your resolution is badly worded and should be struck down.

amen Neko Neko!

Nyan!!11

I feel it should be rephrased as said here consitently. The fact every living thing comes under it is an overlook I think Middle Earth made and he is unwilling to admit his mistake but I think it would be agood proposal other then that.

According to the Buddhist definition earth worms are considered sentient and they don't even harm anything.

To defend the resolution by offering a more subjective interpretation is like allowing Hitler to kill Jews because he didn't consider them people. Hmmmmm.

As far as the resolution in general:

"This is necessary
This is necessary
Life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on...
This is necessary
This is necessary
Life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life!"

*sigh*

This is why I am http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/naunm.jpg :P

If I want to slaughter lesbian cows, I bloody will ^_^

Then why do you moniter UN forums? :?

Then why do you moniter UN forums? :?Sorry, meant to post as Raysia, who just left the UN :)