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I you have ever wondered how many resolutions have ever been passed that had anything to do with religion the answer is exactly 1.
I wonder how many proposals get deleted that make mention of religion.
Does anyone have these figures?

Religion-based proposals don't tend to be deleted. There are some exceptions to that rule, usually ones which purport to be about religion but are actually thinly-disguised anti-Semitic or anti-anything else you'd care to name proposals.

If you're talking about the "God, for or against?" business, I haven't deleted the re-posted proposal. It may, however, have simply run out of time to be voted on.

Once I made a proposal that involved religion, and it wasn't deleted, if that's what you mean.

Addition to my previous post:

Try as I might, I can't use my mod powers to actually get a resolution to the voting stage.

How can you deny religion? Is there not some cosmic force that guides the course of human suffering as atonement only to end in a final Revelation on the deathbed of humankind? Our lives are a series of sufferings, intended by He-Who-is-Holy to forgive us our sins and those of our ancestors and those of people who have yet to come. This is the message of the Great Prophet, for whom my nation is named. Through strictness, and prescheduled sufferings, I have removed all problems from my people. I have lifted their burdens in the afterlife. Their suffering ends with final bliss. If they have suffered enough in the land of the living, they never again suffer in the abode of the dead. Reject your heretical comments and begin your repentance through self-whipping and bloodletting. Throw out the comforts of your life. You do not sleep on a mattress. Sleep on the floor without a blanket to atone for the sins committed in your sleep. Repent now or I will be forced to dispatch the Forgivers, my elite military force, thousands strong. They induce the Suffering for you and bring you directly to the final Revelation. The choice is yours: Repent or be eradicated.

Religion-based proposals don't tend to be deleted. There are some exceptions to that rule, usually ones which purport to be about religion but are actually thinly-disguised anti-Semitic or anti-anything else you'd care to name proposals.

If you're talking about the "God, for or against?" business, I haven't deleted the re-posted proposal. It may, however, have simply run out of time to be voted on.I wasn't talking about, "God, for or against". It was deleted by someone. It was slated to run until Sunday and it was gone as early as Friday around 10 p.m.
What I was refering to is if you look at the history of resolutions which have passed you will find that only 1 has ever made it through. That one only mentions religion as a basis for war.
On a side note if you look at the history of passed resolutions there are several that deal with the topic of sex in one form or another.
I only posted this topic due to looking at the history earlier and thought some of the people of faith might find it interesting and take more notice of what happens in the game.
Pops.

Addition to my previous post:

Try as I might, I can't use my mod powers to actually get a resolution to the voting stage.
Wouldn't dream of asking a Moderator to do such a thing. If that was possible, what fun would the game be? The only thing I ask of Moderators is for help when needed and to be treated the same as any other player on the game.

The choice is yours: Repent or be eradicated. This type of statement is, exactly, what the propsal I made would penalize.
Even though, it is a part of a comment aimed at a Christian way of thinking it could have been a Bible thumping Christian saying the same thing to an Atheist. Now do you see why it was proposed.

Religion... IN MY PANTS!

BOOYAH!

Also, see my flag. Thank you have a nice day. Or night. Or sexual orientation.

Point well taken, Popsland. Sorry if I sounded a bit defensive earlier, it's just that the random-acts-of-idiocy-online crowd seems to have appeared around these parts again.
Not you, of course, just certain other nations.

Religious liberty and freedom of conscience is our dearest tenet.

Nations should be encouraged to consider this stance.

Many nations are established as theocracies or in other ways have built religious restrictions into their constitutions, and such liberty would intrude upon their sovereignty.

Therefore such measures cannot be mandatory.

Religious liberty and freedom of conscience is our dearest tenet.

Nations should be encouraged to consider this stance.

Many nations are established as theocracies or in other ways have built religious restrictions into their constitutions, and such liberty would intrude upon their sovereignty.

Therefore such measures cannot be mandatory.
Since this would have been an across the board action, with no reference to the ideals of the violating nation, the treatment would be fair to all involved.

Point well taken, Popsland. Sorry if I sounded a bit defensive earlier, it's just that the random-acts-of-idiocy-online crowd seems to have appeared around these parts again.
Not you, of course, just certain other nations.
Hey defensiveness happens, not a problem. I get that way myself sometime. I do try to maintain a certain level of calmness, but you know how it goes some days (wife, kids, pets) you just lash out where you can.

The real problem is thoe crazy resolutions that try to ban homosexuality.

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A rather simple explanation for the lack of UN resolutions dealing with or mentioning God, is the fact that most members simply regard religion as something to be dealt with privately.

The UN is a secular body, and modern diplomatic history has shown again and again that more often than not, bringing religion into international affairs, simply results in no progress. Religion is not subject to negotiation (some would go further and say, they are not subject to the laws of rationality either).

I have a fairly tough time seeing why the UN would need to make any resolution/s regarding religion, save for enshrining freedom of worship.

I agree with New Clarkhall.

There is no way to prove (or disprove) the existence of a supreme diety. Therefore, the rules of logic and empiricism dictate that the government should NOT make policies based on religion.

The Great Nation of Putergeeks:

1) recognizes that religion exists

2) does not support religion

3) firmly supports the separation of church and state

the reason those resolutions don't get far is b/c there are likely some delagates who realize it'll never pass, so don't bother bringing it up.

I have a fairly tough time seeing why the UN would need to make any resolution/s regarding religion, save for enshrining freedom of worship.
If you read the propsals, and you look to see what it is really about, you sometimes can find that it doesn't deal with religion, just freedom to express opinions.

I have a fairly tough time seeing why the UN would need to make any resolution/s regarding religion, save for enshrining freedom of worship.

True in broad terms, but of course what the UN might logically be meant to do (promote democracy, impose sanctions against this nation or that) and what the current queue of proposals intends the UN to do (ban homosexuals, move to the moon, promote family television, clean up local politics)* are two very different things.

*These are gleaned from proposals I have seen and - for the most part - deleted. They are not to be taken as a representative sample of the "Garden of Illogical Delights" (AKA the proposal queue), nor as an endorsement of any or all of these proposals.