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I feel that the number of endorsements needed to make proposals should be lowered to 1 or totally eliminated. This would increase the number of proposals that get submitted.
Knowing that it would also cause an increase in joke proposals getting submitted. I feel like the Moderators should have the ability to warn players about joke proposals and if the player continues to post joke proposals the Moderators should ban the player from the UN. This would solve the joke proposal problem quickly.
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Sorry, but I don't think that proposals that will affect all UN nations should come to a vote based on only two or three members approval. The proposal system is a vetting system, meant to ensure that the joke proposals and the poorly written proposals don't make it to a vote, since making it that far is generally akin to getting passed--unless you're the Global Market. :lol:

It doesn't always work--we've had some crappily written proposals pass, much to my dismay--but the system works more often than it fails.

Sorry, but I don't think that proposals that will affect all UN nations should come to a vote based on only two or three members approval. The proposal system is a vetting system, meant to ensure that the joke proposals and the poorly written proposals don't make it to a vote, since making it that far is generally akin to getting passed--unless you're the Global Market. :lol:

It doesn't always work--we've had some crappily written proposals pass, much to my dismay--but the system works more often than it fails.
But it can be very frustrating to the new players, who can have some great ideas, to not be alowed to take part. Then we lose someone who could have been a great asset to the game. They will go look for a game they can play in full. Our loss.

well I have alwoays thought the minimum endorsements required was kinda prepostorous, in the real UN, any member can submit proposals, France doesnt have to have Germany and Spains ok so that they can submit a proposal, therefore I see no reason why nations here should have to do the same, it kinda limits the voices of little regions where there are few UN members, or where folks are not allowed to get too many endorsements, like in teh Pacific, just trying to get enough endorsements to submit a proposal there will get you booted to the RR.

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Sorry, but I don't think that proposals that will affect all UN nations should come to a vote based on only two or three members approval. The proposal system is a vetting system, meant to ensure that the joke proposals and the poorly written proposals don't make it to a vote, since making it that far is generally akin to getting passed--unless you're the Global Market. :lol:

It doesn't always work--we've had some crappily written proposals pass, much to my dismay--but the system works more often than it fails.

I thought the suggestion was that you'd only need 1 endorsement to make the proposal, not to have it reach quorum and be voted on.

Well, there's one way to clear this up. Pops, was it a quorum of one or one endorsement needed to make a proposal in the first place?

People have forgotten how icky the UN was when everyone could submit proposals? If nations do not have enough endorsements they can always ask someone who does (their delegate perhaps?) to submit their proposal for them.

I would sugest that we base it off a percent system: write things up so you need, say, 20% of UN nations in your region to endorse. That way there is some sense of order, yet small regions are not disadvantaged.

Well, there's one way to clear this up. Pops, was it a quorum of one or one endorsement needed to make a proposal in the first place?

I think he ment for it to be submitted in the 1st place, not the amount need to make it go to the vote (the one thats at about 119 at the mo) !!

Well, there's one way to clear this up. Pops, was it a quorum of one or one endorsement needed to make a proposal in the first place?

To make the proposal in the first place.

I think a flat endorsement rate of 75 is all that should be needed.

From my own point of view, there are enough proposals going around as it is. Most of them are actually quite good - and the ratio of proper ones to silly ones is improving daily.

Sorry, but I don't think that proposals that will affect all UN nations should come to a vote based on only two or three members approval. The proposal system is a vetting system, meant to ensure that the joke proposals and the poorly written proposals don't make it to a vote, since making it that far is generally akin to getting passed--unless you're the Global Market. :lol:

It doesn't always work--we've had some crappily written proposals pass, much to my dismay--but the system works more often than it fails.

I thought the suggestion was that you'd only need 1 endorsement to make the proposal, not to have it reach quorum and be voted on.

Well, there's one way to clear this up. Pops, was it a quorum of one or one endorsement needed to make a proposal in the first place?The term is one endorsement to be able to make a proposal. The term quorm was not used for anything.

People have forgotten how icky the UN was when everyone could submit proposals? If nations do not have enough endorsements they can always ask someone who does (their delegate perhaps?) to submit their proposal for them.
did you notice the part about how to deal with nations who make joke proposals. It solves this problem.

From my own point of view, there are enough proposals going around as it is. Most of them are actually quite good - and the ratio of proper ones to silly ones is improving daily.Thanks to your own system of warning and removing. Great idea by the way.

From my own point of view, there are enough proposals going around as it is. Most of them are actually quite good - and the ratio of proper ones to silly ones is improving daily.Thanks to your own system of warning and removing. Great idea by the way.

*looks up from the pile of UN proposals*
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