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how can this be passing?/?????? It explains nothing. It is completely open to interpretation and spells nothing out as far as guidlines.

tap water is toxic to many fish and other sea life, under the current plan I could consider any country who allows water to be dumped into the ocean to be in violation of this resolution.

On the other side it also allows me to dump absolutely anything I want into any of my many rivers which empty right into the ocean, after-all I would not be guilty of dumping into the ocean I would be guilty of dumping into my own rivers...I cant control nature if it takes my pcbs out to sea....

The basic idea behind this resolution is sound however it is full of holes and should NEVER be passed until it has been tweaked and refined.

PEOPLE, WERE NOT VOTING OVER WHATS FOR DINNER BY A SHOW OF HANDS......WE NEED TO DO THIS RIGHT!

Okay... :roll:

Unfortunately...you will learn that symbolism over substance wins out in the UN on NationStates.

Keeping my economy strong through these proposals has been hard enough. Look what's next in queue:

Stop Dumping - Start Cleaning
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Why can't it be one proposal for dumping instead of constantly assaulting my nation's businesses, most of which have never done anything wrong?

Unfortunately...you will learn that symbolism over substance wins out in the UN on NationStates.

That it does, unfortunately, but hey at least this isn't the real UN...

I compeletly second this post! just because things have being working badly/wrongly/weakly isnt a reason not to open peoples eyes...

maybe something should be done about tighting the proposals that come forward. so that they be more complete and not just save the forests.. or protect the ozone layer

uhh... there has been much contraversy over this
it has no point to argue over it....Once people see the words;
Oceans and pollutions they automatically vote for it because
they want to save the whales or somthing like that......

Nothing more than "feel good" legislation.

One of many reasons NOT to join the UN.

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DaRight WingConspiracy is strongly considering submitting a proposal to outlaw all illness and ill will towards others. The passing of a such a proposal will surely fix many of the worlds problems.

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DaRight WingConspiracy
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DaRight WingConspiracy is strongly considering submitting a proposal to outlaw all illness and ill will towards others. The passing of a such a proposal will surely fix many of the worlds problems.

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What about Hypochondiacs, who only think they are ill but are not really, where would they fit in as they are not ill (and before you say it) they are not necessarily mentally ill either, simply attention seekers. Would they be outlawed as well? :?

You pose an interesting conundrum...however we believe that Hypochondriacs would immediately be cured, as the proposal would eradicate all illnesses thereby creating a situation where Hypochondriacs would no longer be. If passed this proposal make the world a better place.

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This is a public message from the Neo-Communistic states to the Commonwealth of Giedi.

Our enviromentalists have found slightly higher traces of radioactive uranimum in your terretorrial waters than is the normal earth standard. We considered radioactive materials toxic. Though we know that your country is rather enviromental aware, we found that these particals, even though in minute proportions come from small spoils that slipt through your cleaning system. However with the current resolution you give us no other option. Improve the world, start somewhere. Unless you make sure absolutely nothing will enter the water anymore, one week after this resolution passes we will declare war on the Commonwealth of Giedi, because we feel forced to declare war on the Commonwealth of Giedi to shut down its uranium mining. We are secretly working in the intrest of other uranium mining nations to increase there monopoly by the way. They however feel secure enough that there army can withstand the UN. We are very sad to do this, but absoluty no toxic materials, means absolutily no toxic materials.

This ultimatium will never be followed through. However it is our last, maybe final attempt to stop the horror you unleashed on the world due to bad formulating. We are an enviromental conscious nation, but your initiative gives us enviromentally aware people a bad name. At this stage it will also not take the resolution anymore of the table, but at least I want to show the writer of the resolution what a horrible legal error he made. We hope that this awareness will result in more awareness in the future, and maybe an update of this resolution.

Neo-Communists, for a better world, but not with a sledgehammer.

ps. We are also very sad that the deligates failed to see this crusial error and managed to correct this.

I completely agree, this resolution should be withdrawn, redrafted and reintroduced. Only then will I be able to support it.

Please write this in the topic Control Of Oceanic Dumping, the only topic which seems to be in for of this resolution, and probably the only one read by people in favor. Also not that in the UN there are hardly any topics in favor, which clearly means that the people voting in favor of this resolution do not attend the UN forum. Therefor it can be advisable to send direct messages to UN delegates, especially those who supported the proposal or have voted in favor. I however done the maximum my nation can strain without the risk of getting nuked for an agressive attutide.

Perhaps some nations would volunteer to form an editorial committee to polish the proposal drafts. They should not make changes to content or intent, but to clarity of expression and organiztion and flow of thought.
What do you think?

Aye,

I'm in. :)