NationStates Jolt Archive


support my resolution for banning dog eating

26-10-2003, 02:21
i propose we outlaw the eating of dogs, support me so this might be passed
Qaaolchoura
26-10-2003, 02:33
What resolution?
According to resolutions at vote page thereis no resolution on banning dog eating.

As I assume that you mean proposal, explain to my satisfaction why we should ban the eating of one animal and not another and I might consider it.
26-10-2003, 03:13
i propose we outlaw the eating of dogs, support me so this might be passed

YARRRRRR!!!1! IF DOG BE ALL THERE IS TO EAT, WE BE EATIN' DOG!!! AND THERE BE NOTHIN' YE CAN DO ABOUT IT, YE LIME-SUCKIN' CANNON-POKER!! UNLESS YE DESIRE TO FEEL THE POINT OF ME CUTLASS IN YER GUTS!!1!!!
Oppressed Possums
26-10-2003, 03:46
i propose we outlaw the eating of dogs, support me so this might be passed

YARRRRRR!!!1! IF DOG BE ALL THERE IS TO EAT, WE BE EATIN' DOG!!! AND THERE BE NOTHIN' YE CAN DO ABOUT IT, YE LIME-SUCKIN' CANNON-POKER!! UNLESS YE DESIRE TO FEEL THE POINT OF ME CUTLASS IN YER GUTS!!1!!!


They have a great point. Some places do not have the luxury to eat what they want or what you want them to eat. Unless YOU suppliment their diet, then maybe it shouldn't be a concern.
Letila
26-10-2003, 20:38
Worst resolution ever.

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Rejistania
26-10-2003, 21:01
Dogs are considered a delicacy in parts of the world. It is no good to interfere with local traditions. BTW: Why is eating a dog worse than eating a cow?
Letila
26-10-2003, 21:05
He's right. It would offend someone. Oh wait, dogeating offends someone. I have no idea what to do.

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Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and big butts!
Letilan moths! Yay!
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Athamasha
26-10-2003, 21:07
I don't think there's anything wrong with eating dog. This resolution is illogical.
Rejistania
26-10-2003, 21:09
He's right. It would offend someone. Oh wait, dogeating offends someone. I have no idea what to do.
Cultural traditions are never good or bad, they are traditions and have to be respected.

Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Can you perhaps tell me, how this was made up?
Tisonica
26-10-2003, 21:37
Worst resolution ever.



I bed to differ...
Goobergunchia
26-10-2003, 21:43
Worst resolution ever.



I bed to differ...

Common Sense Act II? That gets my vote....
Tisonica
26-10-2003, 21:44
Worst resolution ever.



I bed to differ...

Common Sense Act II? That gets my vote....

Oh yeah... ^5
Letila
26-10-2003, 21:48
Can you perhaps tell me, how this was made up?

It's a conlang, a language that I made up myself.

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and big butts!
Letilan moths! Yay!
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:TEA1WL6tIGQC:w1.150.telia.com/~u15008589
Rational Self Interest
27-10-2003, 02:49
-double post-
Rational Self Interest
27-10-2003, 02:51
-double post-
Rational Self Interest
27-10-2003, 02:53
-double post-
Rational Self Interest
27-10-2003, 02:57
-double post-
Qaaolchoura
27-10-2003, 03:18
Worst resolution ever.



I bed to differ...
This is only a proposal, so if you want to include it in the running, you would have to include all proposals, and this would have no chance of winning.

To Chauvinism:
Calling it a "resolution" does not automatically make it one.
imported_United Shintoists
27-10-2003, 03:18
Hey, why's eating dogs any different from cows, or pig? Or a lion eating us for that matter. We're all just animals.
Qaaolchoura
27-10-2003, 03:21
Hey, why's eating dogs any different from cows, or pig? Or a lion eating us for that matter. We're all just animals.\
That was what I said second post.

Never got an answer. . .
Polutropon
27-10-2003, 03:56
Not the worst resolution ever, but, IS it a resolution? If so . . . . I am against it.
27-10-2003, 04:05
To Chauvinism:
Calling it a "resolution" does not automatically make it one.

Do we love technicallities :P
I doubt that Chauvinism meant it was a resolution. Was it a resolution than he would not have to start talking about it here, would he :P

But mainly I wonder why dogs should have other rights then any other animal. It must be some secret vegie consipiracy to ban all meating. And if it isn't, that effect it will have.
No legal system would allow the injustice that the meat eaten by some cultures is illagal, and by others isn't. This resolution would be followed up quickly by banning other forms of meat too, and those cannot really be stopped without creating an obvious message of injustice in the world.
How would you like it if you can't have chicken anymore, and pork, and cow, just because the UN say so? If that was not your intention, close it as fast as you can because you are opening pandoras box.

Other than that we have no particular statement on whether banning eat meating on the world is better or worse. No meat eating would give the world the ability to sustain a lot of more humans on this planet. And I also presume that once you never eaten meat, you would not start complaining when you can't eat it too. For example, people who never have eaten dog, are not complaining that they can't eat it either. However I would hate to tell my population suddenly that they can't eat meat anymore. Gosh, crime numbers would go up increadably. It would by like that amercian alcohol ban all over again. Nah, looks like giving nothing then problems for us. So we have no opinion about this at the moment.
Qaaolchoura
27-10-2003, 04:22
Sorry, I meant to address that to the people who were debating the worst resolutions and despite this being a proposal, counting it as one, but I was not thinking clearly.
Letila
27-10-2003, 04:26
Why dogs? Why not gophers, or moles, or birthday cakes?

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Qaaolchoura
27-10-2003, 04:27
I already asked that.
27-10-2003, 20:32
Dogs are rarely eaten in the community of Gurthark, because most people consider them companion animals, and there is something of a taboo against eating potential companions. But then, the same applies to chickens, which Gurtharkians also often keep as companions. It's a matter of cultural preference.

We do see a reasonable argument for banning all meat-eating, or for banning the eating of animals above a certain level of intelligence. There is, in fact, a growing minority in Gurthark that is lobbying for the passage of such laws, although we do not have them at the present time.

However, outlawing dog-eating, without outlawing the eating (or killing for fur) of various other animals that are at least as intelligent as dogs--cats, pigs, dolphins and whales, donkeys, polecats, primates, some theorists even suggest octopi--is pure parochialism, with no reasonable foundation.

Gurthark opposes this proposal.

Sincerely,
Miranda Googleplex
United Nations Ambassador
Community of Gurthark
27-10-2003, 20:50
Allthough people of buik only eat poultry and fish, that is simply for ethic reasons.
If another country views chickens and cows as sacred, or as companion animals, and choose to eat dogs and ferrets on a regulor basis who are we to tell them they are wrong?
Letila
28-10-2003, 00:53
I think the real question is: What does dog meat taste like?

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and big butts!
Letilan moths! Yay!
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:TEA1WL6tIGQC:w1.150.telia.com/~u15008589
28-10-2003, 00:56
Dog meat tastes like back bacon without the back


or the bacon
28-10-2003, 06:03
If you really feel the desire to find out go for it, just dont make me watch.
28-10-2003, 06:07
there should be a law against creating pointless topics....matter of fact any stupid post should be outlawed....*arrests self*
28-10-2003, 07:27
I every stupid post was outlawed, would we really have a NS board left?
28-10-2003, 12:10
The issue of what should and should not be permitted as a food-stuff is tricky. Personally, I favour:

1) Laws against cannibalism
2) Laws against killing/eating endangered species

I'm also tempted to propose laws against killing/eating other creatures that rank high for intelligence, such as dolphins and great apes. As it happens, most great apes and many dolphins are endangered species anyway, so it's not really necessary. There's also a health reason not to eat great apes, and monkeys, which is that they're genetically close enough to humans for easy disease transfer; examples of this would include HIV and ebola. However, that would also rule out other more distantly related creatures such as poultry, from whom 'flu can cross over.

On the particular case of dogs, they are on about the same place on the intelligence scale as pigs, and hence it would be controversial, to say the least, to ban eating them on those grounds. Personally, I would choose never to eat them, but that's another matter. I don't really think it's a legitimate issue for the UN.