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Region Delegates, please support the recent resolution for the formation of a World Health Organization.

To protect against deadly pathogens from threatening the International Community the World Health Organization (hereby refered to as the WHO) is a necessity. The proposal has been designed to provide the WHO with necessary power to prevent the spread of dangerous pathogens while infringing on national rights as little as possible.

I read all of the proposals and endorsed it.

Much l;ater tonight I created a long list of things that one should consider before contacting a regional delegate and asking them to support your proposal.

One minute after it posted you sent me a telegram asking me to endorse your proposal.

I made you an example and un-endorsed it.

Please think carefully before sending requests to every delegate on NS next time.

I refuse to re-endorse it, so do not ask.

Much l;ater tonight I created a long list of things that one should consider before contacting a regional delegate and asking them to support your proposal.


Really curious about what that list would be.......did you put in online somewhere.

Might improve those proposals a whole lot.
Even though it is only your opion. (added as technicality)

I read all of the proposals and endorsed it.

Much l;ater tonight I created a long list of things that one should consider before contacting a regional delegate and asking them to support your proposal.

One minute after it posted you sent me a telegram asking me to endorse your proposal.

I made you an example and un-endorsed it.

Please think carefully before sending requests to every delegate on NS next time.

I refuse to re-endorse it, so do not ask.

Why the hell would i ask someone who goes off the deep end if he receives a telegram to reendorse my proposal.

You got a telegram, yes, and it affects you negatively how?

Why the hell would i ask someone who goes off the deep end if he receives a telegram to reendorse my proposal.

You got a telegram, yes, and it affects you negatively how?
You have no idea how many telegrams delegates get asking us to endorse proposals. If I have already endorsed it, I have made it my policy to dis-endorse it, not matter how welll thought out it is (and yours is quite well thought out, but I stick to what I said).

Much later tonight I created a long list of things that one should consider before contacting a regional delegate and asking them to support your proposal.


Really curious about what that list would be.......did you put in online somewhere.

Might improve those proposals a whole lot.
Even though it is only your opion. (added as technicality)

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1922338#1922338
No, I doubt it, I just did it in hopes that poposal submitters would see it and stop, well (I'm not allowed to call it spamming) somethinorothering my inbox.

Do you have to be a delegate to vote on a proposal? I thought any UN member with two or more endorsements could vote?

Do you have to be a delegate to vote on a proposal? I thought any UN member with two or more endorsements could vote?

No Aylandlandfive. Any UN member with 2 endorsements can SUBMIT a proposal. Only delegates can endorse it untill it reaches quorum. After reaching quorum, ALL UN members, regardless of the number of endorsements they have, can vote.

As for creating a WHO....I do not think it is possible to create new organizations or branches within the UN as that would be a change in game mechanics.

As for receiving dozens of TMs...I get those too Qaaolchoura. I agree that they can be a nuisance...but think of this...if someone went through the process of clicking on the link to your nation and then sending you a message, they DID do some work. Enough for you to at least read their TM.

Call it courtesy, or call it part of being a delegate.

As for receiving dozens of TMs...I get those too Qaaolchoura. I agree that they can be a nuisance...but think of this...if someone went through the process of clicking on the link to your nation and then sending you a message, they DID do some work. Enough for you to at least read their TM.
I think that most of them use scripts.

And for the most part they are clearly a form letter

The free carolinas is the only country who appears to have paid any attention to whom they are sending it too, and I do read the telegrams now, but only so that I can be biased against the sender.

I find it quite annoying, as none of the proposals have te slightest prayer of passing.

I empathize. But as I see it, its simply the price we pay for being delegates. In any case, how you choose to deal with such TMs is your business.

I'm simply providing a counter-view. :)

Rianisis agrees with New Clarkhall. Receiving a slew of telegrams is just part of what we sign up for as a delegate. Rianisis humbly disagrees with Qaalchoura. I don't understand how you can dismiss the effort someone puts in to creating and lobbying support for a proposal, especially when it's obviously been well thought out, just because his government's been 'inconvenienced' by a telegram after it's already received the endorsement.

Big deal. Send a telegram back to let them know that you've already supported it, and move on. You criticize those who use form letters, but that's how it's done in real life (at least in the US). Senators do bulk mailings all the time to inform the voters of their efforts in the government. Maybe I've already heard about farmers receiving a subsidy for ethanol (for ex.) and I support their position. I'm not going to change my mind just because I get a rehash in my mail box.

Our nation has supported this proposal because of the profound effect it would have of further reducing world-wide risk to the spread of deadly plague-like diseases. With the increase of global travel, this threat needs to be countered by implementing safeguard controls at the global level. It compliments the positive effect that the Global AIDS Initiative is already having across the world.

Rianisis feels this way even though there is mention of a new branch/organization within the UN. We're guessing that it was put in there to cover the questions that some UN nations are always asking, concerned about a potential abuse of power in the global body. "Who's going to be in charge of this? Wouldn't the UN just consolidate their power and abuse it?"

It covers that in the proposal to show that each region would have a hand in the WHO success and avoids most infringement of national sovereignty and abuse of global power- a hot button topic for many proposals submitted to the UN.

Supposing that it exists for RP-type purposes more than anything, what is wrong with that? Who's in charge of the International Space Initiative UN committee that was written into that now-resolution? What about the IRCO resolution that called for a UN-level government to control the Red Cross? These both passed. It's all about using the imagination.

Rianisis agrees with New Clarkhall. Receiving a slew of telegrams is just part of what we sign up for as a delegate. Rianisis humbly disagrees with Qaalchoura. I don't understand how you can dismiss the effort someone puts in to creating and lobbying support for a proposal, especially when it's obviously been well thought out, just because his government's been 'inconvenienced' by a telegram after it's already received the endorsement.

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True, but I do not have to agree with the practice. In all of the time that I have been delegate I do not recall recieving a telegram to support any of the proposals that have become resolutions, so it accomplishes nothing.

Each to their own.

Most of the telegrams that I get are for poorly written proposals that would take a matter of 20 or so seconds to write.

As for being inconvenienced, not at all, I just think that if they do not take the time to see who endorsed their proposal (and I had endorsed it hours before he sent it, so he can not claim that I endorsed it after he began checking), then they can do with one less endorsement.

yeah because we all know when im sending telegrams i send one, immediately go back to makesure there weren't any changes to the endorsement list, send another, go back to check again.

yeah because we all know when im sending telegrams i send one, immediately go back to makesure there weren't any changes to the endorsement list, send another, go back to check again.As I said above, I had endorsed it hours before you sent me the telegram.