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I'm hoping that enough people read this that the number of "deer delagate plese emdorse my propposal" telegrams drops by a couple hundred per day for a while.

Before Telegramming a Delegate

Have you posted a topic on the UN forum yet?
The delegates who do not reguarly go over the proposal list, but are still active, (and many who do go over the list) read the UN forum. By posting here, you have a chance to reach many delegates at once.

Have you waited for responses to your thread before posting?
I can not vouch for other delegates, but I get really REALLY ticked off when after writing a lengthy response as to why I will NOT endorse a proposal I reload my telegram box not long after, and find a badly written telegram asking me to support the very same proposal.

Please wait at least a day for feedback on your proposal. If the general consensus is that it is flawed then please let it die.

Is your proposal near Quorum?
If your proposal is not nearing quorum then there is no reason to ask delegates to endorse it, as the only effect that it will have in the long run is to annoy the delegates who notice the sender.

Who are the people to whom you are sending it?

1. If the delegates are listed as endorsing proposals in the "list proposals page, then chances are that we have already read the proposal and there is a reason why we have not endorsed it.

If you think that the delegate, judging by other proposals that they have endorsed, and their internal politics ought to be endorsing your proposal then send us a telegram politely asking why.

"Please endorse it", if anything will likely bias those of us whom are active delegates against it.

2. And make sure that the delegate that you are sending it to has not already endorsed it. Regardless of how well written a proposal is, if I've already endorsed it and have been asked to endorse it again (not reincarnations, the very one that I endorsed a few hours earlier) at a bad time them I will dis-endorse it.

Is your proposal in the right category, not a game mechanics proposal, spelled correctly, and otherwise an appropriate proposal?
If it isn't, forget it.

Every time I get asked to endorse a game mechanics proposal I have to roll my eyes, as chances are, the sender just reported themselves to Enodia, the delegate and GM in charge of the UN.


What are the politics of the person you are sending it to?
A Scandanavian Liberal Paradise with a descriptor "homosexual marraiges are increasingly common" is not going to endorse a proposal "Kill All Gays", and it will accomplish nothing except to offend.


Are you willing to respond to delegate inquiries?
If a delegate asks you a question about your proposal and you do not respond, forget about it. We will assume that you do not really care about getting it passed.

Are you willing to accept rejection?
Twice I have been flamed just for giving an explaination of my rejection of poposals. I had asumed that people would like an explaination as to why I did not endorse their proposal. Instead it only made me a target for flamers. Most recently I saw a proposal which said : I like the fact that I put up 2 proposals for your veiwing and have agreements from them buy other UN members but yet the UN delegates decided to pull my proposal of war and a down fall of a certain Evil empire. they did not let the proposal pass foreveryones viewing. So much for a free world huh. I have this to say, I think no matter what or no matter how offensive, let the purposal pass through. You should not have the right to pull it at anytime, let it pass through the whole Nations Delegates. You know as well as I know that people will agree with it, probably not all.. but some......and dont give me your threats and warnings of being Dismissed of the UN. You know as well as I do these Evil empires need to be taken out.
Basicaly it is an overeaction to rejection.

Are you willing to suffer wrath?
Yes, I've heard it once, I've heard it a thousand times: "But it's a delegate's job to recieve telegrams. They can always resign if they don't like it." I'm a bit skeptical when I hear that. From what I know of the history of NS, a delegate's *job*, is to read the list and the UN forum of course, must delegate do not know this and so, as far I know, the telegram for proposal support developed. Sort of like region crashing. Not intended, but a part of the game all the same.

This does not mean that delegates have to like it. Some of us, myself included do not mind the telegrams as long as they meet certain criterion. Others detest them with a vengence, and none of us like poorly written proposals. You can therefore expect to get some rather upleasant telegrams. Some of these will be flaming (If they call you an ignorant spamming n00b and tell you to go to Hell for instance and you can and should report via the getting help page. If you do so however, you must save te telegram for at least a week.)

Others will just be very angry telegrams to the effect of "stop spamming my inbox" only stronger and likely all in caps. Jusst ignore those and remind yourself, you did sign uo for this as part of the job.


Before Posting a Request
Make sure that it is only one thread, and only on your thread. It really has no effect except to convince us that you are a ingnorant newbie at best and an annoying, spammming, n00b at worst.

List of Active Delegates

Note that I have used the criterium of current and consistant past history of activity to compile thi list, and if I notice any delegate on here become incative for a prolonged period of time then I will remove them.

Note also that just because a delegate on this has not endosed your proposal it does not mean that they are inactive some of thes delegates only endorse proposals bound to expire on that day (some delegates only read proposals on the first page or only when they themselves submit a proposal, and I did not count them as active), and some rarely find proposals to be worth voting on, and remember no delegate endorses every proposal.

1 Infinite Loop
Alalalalalah
Avalonian Angels
Buen Humor
Cherry Cola
Dionalka
Eaerlann
Fallian
Joefis
Kahta
Lamonia
Libriena
Loashia
Norion
Pope Hope
Romena
Scyphia
Stephistan
Sulon
The Bruce
Xaqon
Xianoshi

List of Delegates Who Will Not Endorse Any Proposals, and Will Ignore Your Telegrams

Sirocco
Belmorian Scandinavia


Edit: list of active delegates added.
Edit: two delegates removed from list, apathetic delegates added.
Edit: the extra five edits come from the connection timing out so that although the post was edited I did not know it.
Edit: no more edits explained
Edit: Well the pruning of the delegate list is kinda major

Peace, Truth, and Justice,
Luke




Stickified by Neut
Minor spelling/grammar problems fixed by Enodia

Alright, everybody, let's STICKIFY!

On three!

1, 2, 3, to the left! 1, 2, 3, to the right!

Alright, everybody, let's STICKIFY!

On three!

1, 2, 3, to the left! 1, 2, 3, to the right!

2. And make sure that the delegate that you are sending it to has not already endorsed it. I recall one time I endorsed a nicely written proposal, and remember it as one of the better ones, but then the next day got a request for me to endorse it. Had my LAN not crashed while I was searching for it I would have dis-endorsed it out of sheer annoyance.

Talk about irony.

40 minutes ago I recieved a tm asking me to endorse a proposal that I had already endorsed.

And the LAN is working fine.

Guess what that means . . .

Edit:
Thank you for sending me this informative telegram long after I endorsed it and never mind that even if I do not endorse a proposal, I have read it and have my reasons.

Endorsement Withdrawn,
Luke

I realized that I owe an apology to Ithuania.

Ignoring him in political discussions is one thing, ignoring him when h does me a favor unasked is quite another.

Sorry Ith, and thanks.

I should really be insulted, but for some odd reason I'm not.

Guess I ate too much cereal this morning...

I just wrote it down somewhere else, but I thought it would be worth repeating here.

If the deligates want to make the UN very realistically with on small "rule" than I would suggest this.
Well I call it a "rule", because it is not a rule. It is a code between deligates.

Basically it comes down too, any deligated that supported a proposition that failed to pass will be publicly noted and will look stupid towards the other deligates.

Why this one...well,
because of the nice consequences.

Deligates will only approve proposals they think are going to pass. There for they will be slow in supporting it unless they know it has a good change. One thing that will be needed then is a very good written proposal, and afcourse the correct effects.

Other than that, the deligate would have to know before hand that there is a good change of passing.

This will mean that first proposal will only be written on forums. Where they will be discussed and improved. Then people start contacting people asking if they would be willing to support. Afcourse these people come with other additions and stuff that needs to be changed. In the end when the proposal is fininally submitted there will already have been a reasonable voting block in favor. And the proposition will have been top quality by then. Then it has to get enough support to be submitted. And then it has to pass the vote. Yes it will slow things down, and for some make it uncomfortable realistic. Afcourse this realism is a valuable experience for people about politics.

This is almost the way how those proposal have to go through the UN in real too. Endless changing a proposal till enough people are happy. And yes, mostly too because proposing something that doesn't pass, just makes you look stupid in international politics :)

Anyway do with it as you wish, throw it before the other deligates for all I care. The idea is yours now :) (and anybody who reads this).

Except that this will cause delegates to support nothing for fear of it not passing.

Although well intentioned, I fear that this wil have no effect on the number of moronic proposals, and will only serve to keep well written proposals from passing.

---Post deleted by NationStates Moderators---

Stickied. by Neut. *whistles innocently*

Stickied. by Neut. *whistles innocently*[
Well thank you then Neut. :D

Have you posted a topic on the UN forum yet?
The delegates who do not reguarly go over the proposal list, but are still active, (and many who do go over the list) read the UN forum. By posting here, you have a chance to reach many delegates at once.

I gotta disagree with this one...this forum is underused for actual proposals.

Otherwise, great work Qaa, and congrats on the sticky!

EDIT: You might also want to add at the end a list of active delegates that it's pointless to t-gram....

I gotta disagree with this one...this forum is underused for actual proposals.

Otherwise, great work Qaa, and congrats on the sticky!

EDIT: You might also want to add at the end a list of active delegates that it's pointless to t-gram....
I'm not quite clear on that. Isn't that what I'm saying?

Thanks. :D

I'll get to work on it.

Idea to add:
Look in the regional message board of the delegate

One nation has TGed me to vote for the current resolution, while the majority of the Oceanian UN members has lodged messages on the board, so I had no choice even if I would be against it. Use your time in a better way!

You might also wish to add that anyone who telegrams me will be completely ignored. 8)

Might I add that it works the same way for Resolutions. Asking for an action to be taken can annoy someone greatly. I am a communist (oh no...). I am "Left Wing". Asking me to vote against a Civil Rights issue is like asking an atheist to go to church.
I am an active delegate who regularly scans for things I support. I scan for things the people in my region support. If you think you find something this Commie Jew would like, go ahead and send it here. Otherwise, bugger off.

Might I add that it works the same way for Resolutions. Asking for an action to be taken can annoy someone greatly. I am a communist (oh no...). I am "Left Wing". Asking me to vote against a Civil Rights issue is like asking an atheist to go to church.
I am an active delegate who regularly scans for things I support. I scan for things the people in my region support. If you think you find something this Commie Jew would like, go ahead and send it here. Otherwise, bugger off.
I've only recieved on tm asking me to vote a certian way on a resolution, and it was somebody that I knew, so I didn't count it as a nuisance.

Add me to the list of Active Delegates.

Add me to the list of Active Delegates.
I have yet to see you endorse a single proposal.

Active delegates are those who I see reguarly endorse proposals.

I read this "advisory" message with no small amount of trepidation. By the time I reached its conclusion, I felt a sense of outrage!

The telegrams being delivered are sent for the purpose of supporting initiatives which the drafters took considerable time to consider and formulate. They are, admittedly, sometimes ill-considered and of questionable benefit, but they are most always earnestly intended.

For the POWERBROKER to suggest that endorsements will be withdrawn SIMPLY for contacting delegates who have already expressed their support is ludicrous, arrogant and irresponsible!

Either support the initiative or don't. Don't not make a speech about your apparent exasperation at those who actually take the time to draft initiatives. If you feel that this is simply too much for you, resign.

And make it simple for the rest of us. :evil:

Florence Marie.

Yes, I do tend to rant, and yes, I think that most delegates would not withdraw support from a proposal simply for that.

One thing that I suppose that I should make clearer is that I write this in order to save delegates annoyance, and to save the writers wasted effort.

My point was that to contact or not to contact a delegate, I feel (and as you have noticed the delegates who have read this and responded have been mostly in agreement) should be all or nothing.

That is to say, do not put half hearted effort into writting telegrams to delegates, then much clicking, but no effort into getting them out to all delegates, and then finally no effort no responding. Write a simple concise telegram, send it to those who have not endorsed it, (it takes no effort to check on your proposal before beggining the campaign and then every fifteen minutes in) and politically share similar views (this takes a glance at the table with UN Ranking, Economy, Civil Rights, and Political Freedoms), and then be prepared to answer delegate questions.

I also pointed out that it is a bad idea to hijack other threads for your own proposal and have added a list of active delegates for the proposer's convinence (which I will be updating soon, and I hope I manage to update at least once a month).

I do not mind the telegrams too much as long as they are something that I would have endorsed, but haven't and as long as the proposer replies to my questions.

There are some delegates who would kill you if they could after recieving one of these telegrams, and that is one of the costs of the job of being a proposer submitter. That is something which I must thank you for pointing out, and I should add it.

On an unrelated note, many of the proposals that I am asked to endorse are things like "ban democracy" or "boost the world military" (although for a while I have been blessedly free of those) I fail to see how that could be well intended good citizenship. It is role-playing as a dictatorship. I do not like having RP forced on me, nor does anybody whom I know.

Hope that this clarifies things some.

Peace, Truth, and Justice,
Luke

congrats on the sticky luke,

maybe we should have a party in ...um.. english
maybe not mr minks would think us crazy. but congrats anyway :D :D :lol:

congrats on the sticky luke,

maybe we should have a party in ...um.. english
maybe not mr minks would think us crazy. but congrats anyway :D :D :lol:
It's actually been stickied for a while, but thanks Leland. :D

Add me to the list of Active Delegates.
I have yet to see you endorse a single proposal.

Active delegates are those who I see reguarly endorse proposals.

List of Delegates Who Will Not Endorse Any Proposals, and Will Ignore Your Telegrams

Add me to the list of Active Delegates.
I have yet to see you endorse a single proposal.

Active delegates are those who I see reguarly endorse proposals.

List of Delegates Who Will Not Endorse Any Proposals, and Will Ignore Your Telegrams
Yes, but he did not ask to be added to the latter list, and he has not checked back yet.

Qaa, that is the best post about endorsing proposals I have ever read,
I used to be of the school of thought that if I was Telegremmed I woudl immeadiatly vote against it, however I have mellowed in my old age, I am considering postig a guidlines for asking for my support, mainly, I wont support any proposal that restricts the right of people to own guns, there are others, I will try to write them up.

Good Work Qaaolchoura

I'm not a delegate anymore, you can take me off the list.

Actually if I endorse a proposal and get spammed afterwards asking for endorsements I will withdraw my endorsement, there is only one sure fire way of getting me to support your proposals but Im not sayig it here, as that woudl ruin it and I would have to change policy.

I have also been known to vote against a resolution if I get spammed about it, especially if I decided to abstain from voting.

Add me to the list of Active Delegates.
I have yet to see you endorse a single proposal.

Active delegates are those who I see reguarly endorse proposals.
I regularly endorse proposals, including but not limited to, equality for all, God for or Against, The Rights of Labor Unions...

Add me to the list of Active Delegates.
I have yet to see you endorse a single proposal.

Active delegates are those who I see reguarly endorse proposals.
I regularly endorse proposals, including but not limited to, equality for all, God for or Against, The Rights of Labor Unions...
As long as it is more than that first page.

Do I need to be a delegate to vote on a proposal?

Do I need to be a delegate to vote on a proposal?Proposals, yes. Resolutions, no.

Although you get more votes on a resolution if you are a delegate...one additional vote for each endorsement.

<---- will have 19 resolution votes by tomorrow

Maybe a new test for proposals to reach quorum should be that they are easy to understand. Proposals that seem to go back on themselves, practically nullifying themselves, aren't really worth voting for. Although, I guess that the text of the proposal doesn't really do much to the actual game, it's there simply for people to vote on. I think that people should simply read the category and how strong it is, and vote for it on that.

EDIT: Here's an example of a post like many UN proposals.

Just wanted to let you know for the next time you update this list that I'm pretty active (usually) in supporting good proposals.

That's Pope Hope with a P to the H. lol

Don't spam me, proposers, or I will smite you. 8) But I like being directed in the way of good proposals.

Thanks, and great thread.

Just wanted to let you know for the next time you update this list that I'm pretty active (usually) in supporting good proposals.

That's Pope Hope with a P to the H. lol

Don't spam me, proposers, or I will smite you. 8) But I like being directed in the way of good proposals.

Thanks, and great thread.
OK.

BTW, I haven't removed myself because I got I friend to rejoin NS (his first two nations died) and that endorsement-swapping ex-region-griefer should be out in roughly two days.

I notice I am on your list of delegates active in considering proposals. Sadly I am not delegate at the moment.

I am also now retired as Delegate. I hope the pension is good.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Founder of the DU Region

this is why the UN is no fun no one wnats to play


or maybe i still dont get it :?:

I apologize to everyone beforehand on my noobness.

I'm not sure if I can even post topics for U.N. resolutions. My country is the Borderlands of Saladea and I am a member of the U.N. So if I want to post a topic for resolution what forum should post it in? Or if I telegram it to the delegates? Or can I even do this since my country doesn't even have a delegate?

Again, apologies for the noobness. :oops:

Arthur

I apologize to everyone beforehand on my noobness.

I'm not sure if I can even post topics for U.N. resolutions. My country is the Borderlands of Saladea and I am a member of the U.N. So if I want to post a topic for resolution what forum should post it in? Or if I telegram it to the delegates? Or can I even do this since my country doesn't even have a delegate?

Again, apologies for the noobness. :oops:

Arthur

Do you mean how do you submit a proposal?

yes

Click the United Nations link in the side menue. Scroll down a bit, and click the Submit a Proposal link. It should be easy from there.

I am trying to be patient...tap, tap, tap....waiting for approvals....I read through this thread before I submitted my proposal and do not want to antagonise anyone. It seems to me that active campaigning can work, if done politely enough-grin.

I really want to see this proposal get its chance to survive a full UN vote-any suggestions?

I am trying to be patient...tap, tap, tap....waiting for approvals....I read through this thread before I submitted my proposal and do not want to antagonise anyone. It seems to me that active campaigning can work, if done politely enough-grin.

I really want to see this proposal get its chance to survive a full UN vote-any suggestions?
I have only seen one proposal actively campaigned for reach quorom. If I can just remember what it was . . .

But if your proposal is well written, and (usually this is necessary) uses proper grammer, then it will be endorse by active delegates, and will spread by word of mouth.

I had a proposal that I advertised to many delegates, it almost reached quorum before, it was deleted, and it had 3 days left. As long as the message you send to delegates is polite, they are normally ok.
I, as a delegate, am happy to get a telegram asking my approval, even if I've already approved it, as long as it is nice and well written.
When I was advertising for mine, I never got one annoyed message back...
Well, one, but that was from a communist who didn't like my name. lol.

Personally, I usually don't read those telegrams titled "Endorse my proposal". Usually they are begging for votes or wanting attention. I check the UN Forum/ Proposal list daily and I will endorse those proposals that I like, and go against or neutral to those I appose.

I will read those telegrams, but if the title is basically a cry for attention because you're not getting votes, sorry. Feel free to make a good arguement, because I won't make a biased vote.

I'm an active delegate; may I be added to the list of active delegates? I endorse the proposals, which will benefit all of the members of my region and now just the ones I like.

I'm an active delegate; may I be added to the list of active delegates? I endorse the proposals, which will benefit all of the members of my region and now just the ones I like.
Sure. I seem to recall seeing you endorsing a proposal at one point, although at this point the list is not particuarly accurate.

Sure. I seem to recall seeing you endorsing a proposal at one point, although at this point the list is not particuarly accurate.
I do support at least one or two from a couple of day's worth of proposals.

Yes, I can tell that this list isn't accurate. Perhaps starting a thread that is entirely just for the purpose of listing delegates?

Sure. I seem to recall seeing you endorsing a proposal at one point, although at this point the list is not particuarly accurate.
I do support at least one or two from a couple of day's worth of proposals.

Yes, I can tell that this list isn't accurate. Perhaps starting a thread that is entirely just for the purpose of listing delegates?

Sure. I seem to recall seeing you endorsing a proposal at one point, although at this point the list is not particuarly accurate.
I do support at least one or two from a couple of day's worth of proposals.

Yes, I can tell that this list isn't accurate. Perhaps starting a thread that is entirely just for the purpose of listing delegates?

I would also would like to be enlisted as active delegate. Thank you.

I would also would like to be enlisted as active delegate. Thank you.
But you are not. :?

I would also would like to be enlisted as active delegate. Thank you.
But you are not. :?

Why is that? What is active in your eyes?

I would also would like to be enlisted as active delegate. Thank you.
But you are not. :?

Why is that? What is active in your eyes?

I would also would like to be enlisted as active delegate. Thank you.
But you are not. :?

Why is that? What is active in your eyes?

I would also would like to be enlisted as active delegate. Thank you.
But you are not. :?

Why is that? What is active in your eyes?

I have resigned from the UN and thus, as delegate. I'm no longer an active delegate, could you please remove me from the list?

What is active in your eyes?You endorse proposals. I lookesd through the list after your request, and saw not one proposal endorsed by you.

I can add you to the "I'm going to ignore telegrams anywhen" list, assuming that you actually are, and you do not endorse only proposals that you recieve a 'gram for.

Make sure that it is only one thread, and only on your thread. It really has no effect except to convince us that you are a ingnorant newbie at best and an annoying, spammming, n00b at worst.

Hello, I am an "ignorant newbie" here, in that I don't know how to use this forum, and I kind of resent the tone of that last comment. I am a regional delegate, but of a tiny region. I read the proposals, and I get the telegrams. I agree with most of what you said, but find the tone of this last comment offenisive. People who are new to this game can't help being new. We were all new once, and shouldn't we try to help each other? Anyway, excuse me for sticking my nose in.

(I don't know if I'll ever find out what you all said on the subject, as I can never seem to find the same forum page twice...... )
Thanks

What is active in your eyes?You endorse proposals. I lookesd through the list after your request, and saw not one proposal endorsed by you.

I can add you to the "I'm going to ignore telegrams anywhen" list, assuming that you actually are, and you do not endorse only proposals that you recieve a 'gram for.

Actually I do endorse proposals, but only the ones of which I think they are good.

I'm not a delegate anymore, you can take me off the list.

*once again knows the power that is delegacy*

W:D:DT!

I am of the opinion that allowing my delegate to endorse or reject any thing prior to making my nations position and recommendation known is counter to what this body of nations stands for.

After I extend my position then I accept of my delegates vote even though it may have not have been our recommendation. Any person who accepts this position not only should be prepared for a large volume of communications but should solicit the input of those they delegate for and we in turn should accept their vote

The poster in the orig thread in my opinion is discouraging this important tool. I submit that if delegates have too many represented nations then perhaps the idea of expanding the number of delegates is in order.

"This opinion is the official position of and for The Republic of Spunn"

That's a great point. Why bother to sign up if you aren't prepared to handle a little bit of communication? My question to you is whether a new list will be coming out soon because I have voted to approve a good number of proposals but I didn't see my name on the active delegate list. Also why arent any proposals even close to becoming resolutions this week?

That's a great point. Why bother to sign up if you aren't prepared to handle a little bit of communication? My question to you is whether a new list will be coming out soon because I have voted to approve a good number of proposals but I didn't see my name on the active delegate list. Also why arent any proposals even close to becoming resolutions this week?
You don't "sign up" to be a delegate, and there is no way to give it up without resigning from the UN entirely, leaving the region, or pestering your endorsers to unendorse you.

And even then, if you are a determined delegate like I was, who actually read the proposal list, these telegrams server no purpose.

As for the delegate list, that wasn't originally part of the sticky. I added it because somebody asked for it, and I went through the list reguarly myself.

Now that I don't even have a nation in the UN, let alone as a delegate, I no longer read the proposal list. I would go through it monthly, but I've been rather busy. If you want to come up with one, I'll stick it in instead, otherwise, if I don't come up with the time by the end of April vacation, I guess I'll remove it to keep people from being confused.

Sounds good I didnt mean to burden you I just assumed you were still a regional delegate. I didnt realize people got endorsements that they didnt want in this game everyone in my region begs eachother to be endorsed :D

All Lobbying for support for UN Resolutions or Proposals must be submited via The East Pacific Offsite Forum (http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_East_Pacific/index.php) where they will be reviewed by our UN Liason, The Wachovia Coalition.

All requests PMed directly to me will be ignored.

also note, I do keep track of how people support my resolutions or the resolutions written by active EP residents and temper my voting to reflect the support we have recieved.

also note, I do keep track of how people support my resolutions or the resolutions written by active EP residents and temper my voting to reflect the support we have recieved.

Does this mean that you will never vote for a superior resolution submitted by a nation that voted against something of yours, even if their resolution is of high quality? Does this also mean that you will always vote for an inferior resolution if it is submitted by a nation that has supported you, even if their resolution does more harm than good? If so, your method of voting is dangerous. If not, the Allied States of Neuropica would welcome any clarification of your statement. Thank you.

also note, I do keep track of how people support my resolutions or the resolutions written by active EP residents and temper my voting to reflect the support we have recieved.

Does this mean that you will never vote for a superior resolution submitted by a nation that voted against something of yours, even if their resolution is of high quality? Does this also mean that you will always vote for an inferior resolution if it is submitted by a nation that has supported you, even if their resolution does more harm than good? If so, your method of voting is dangerous. If not, the Allied States of Neuropica would welcome any clarification of your statement. Thank you.

You hit the Nail Right on the Head.
and all I have to say is,

Thats Politics.


You see, Politics is a game of You Scratch my back, and Ill scratch yours.
if you want my aid all you have to do is follow my policy, from teh first part, and remember you gotta help me if you want help.

although I could always go to the old ways and Completly ignore UN resolutions.

also for those who do Not pay attention to this thread,
if you PM me you will first recieve this.

Greetings, as per regional policy, all Lobbying for UN resolutins Must be handled via the offsite forum, As we as a region vote democraticly as to how to vote on the various issues presented to the UN.

the address for our offsite forum is redily available in our regional factbook.

Loop

next time, you will be blocked from sending me PM's

Heh. I used to use that policy with recruiters. The ignore list was implemeted at around the time that I finally quit the UN, so I hadn't decided whether to use it on endorsement recruiters yet.

I actually still have one nation blocked, I won't say whom though. All of the others died. I'll probably unban him eventually, when I remember and hae my TMs page open.