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MESSAGE FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF BOA VISTA

The Commonwealth Government has approved our UN representative's proposal to submit a portntial resolution to legalize gambling. The Commonwealth Government believes gambling can be an economic solution for many member nations currently suffering from economic downturns. The proposal calls for at least 33% (one-third) of the profits from gambling be used to promote responsible gaming, community programs, social programs, and compulsive gambling program to mitigate the bad effects caused by gambling and to better promote social equality.

The Commonwealth Government wishes all UN delegates to support the act.

Sincerely
Fatima Esparteiro
Minister of United Nations Affairs
The Commonwealth of Boa Vista

Why do you have to legalize something you've never criminalized unless you want to force those who don't want gambling to have gambling?

The proposal calls for at least 33% (one-third) of the profits from gambling be used to promote responsible gaming, community programs, social programs, and compulsive gambling program to mitigate the bad effects caused by gambling and to better promote social equality.

Because of that Ithuania and any other moral nation will vote "no".

It is not government's job to either promote or discourage activities of this sort.

The proposal calls for at least 33% (one-third) of the profits from gambling be used to promote responsible gaming, community programs, social programs, and compulsive gambling program to mitigate the bad effects caused by gambling and to better promote social equality.

Because of that Ithuania and any other moral nation will vote "no".

It is not government's job to either promote or discourage activities of this sort.

MESSAGE FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF BOA VISTA

Boa Vista, as a large and democratic nation, understands the importance of religion and morals within a society. However, we are also aware of economic situations in some countries today. People are starving and dying on the streets in masses. A resolution like this can save many people. Just an endorsement, and a nation can save thousands, even millions, from their untimely demise.

As for nations who say gambling are immoral, the Commonwealth Government acknowledges the negative effects of gambling (example: rising crime, compulsive gaming problems, etc.) We have already included a provision in the proposal that will mitigate and eliminate those problems. Nothing is perfect, we can only make the negative effects smaller in magnitude.

We must stress the fact that moral decency and religion integrity cannot put food on the table for many people. Only money can. A nation that can allow millions to day every single day simply because they want to uphold their moral decency is no different than a mass murderer.

The Commonwealth Government seriously urges all nations to support this proposal. With the provisions for mitigating the negative effects of gaming, the proposal will change many people's lives for the better while making very few, if any, negative changes within a country's society.

Sincerely
Fatima Esparteiro
Minister of United Nations Affairs
The Commonwealth of Boa Vista

The United Socialist States of Cannibal penguins supports your proposal, our peoples have great wealth and as long as some restrictions remain... may do with it as they wish, entertainment such as this will provide much more icicles into our government via tax..... therefore the peoples of The United Socialist States of Cannibal penguins, support you proposal

The Commonwealth Government thanks The United Socialist States of Cannibal penguins for their support to the proposal.

without this proposal those who want gambling establishments can have them therefore your stated purpose makes this proposal unnecessary.

You are aware, yes you are :P, that gambling creates things like addiction problems and sort.

A resolution I think falls kinda in the street of legalizing all forms drugs or alchohol and the complete freedom to harm yourself anyway you want.

Most nations would like the right to decided that for themselves.
There seems to be no incredable inhumanity involed from forbidding it. Other than that, governments are quite unpleased if they are forced have to spend tax money to solve a problem the United Nations forced on them with no strong reasoning behind it. Well except maybe that the people in the boa vista just really like gambling. Well you are free to do that in your own country. Anybody is. And I understand you want to do that too when you are on holiday. However it seems a bit unfair to just causally force your morals on to other cultures and nations as well. Normally when you are on holiday you are a considered a guest. Lets keep it that way. If my friend doesn't approve of dope, I am not going to demand that I am allowed to do that in his home too. I kindly respects the rules he lives by. As long as they do not consists of horredious acts like murder and stuff.

Be warned, once you start doing this, you might get a counter proposal that forbids gambling in your country. How happy would you be then :P. Imagen that for a second and then decide again if you want to enforce this on other people :).

If it actually supports economy? Don't know. Some people consider it questionable. Everbody working in the gambling industry could also have another job. Most profit made from gambling is tourism. People who are not allowed to do it somewhere else. If everybody would have it, where does the profit comes from. It is just another job. Don't worry about the nations that don't have gambling, I am pretty sure there people are bussy doing other things. (like traveling to your country to gamble :P).

It greatest jobs in the healthcare industry, yes maybe too. But when Keynes suggested letting people dig holes, he didn't suggest breaking peoples legs and sending them to the hospital. Actually I have a pretty good idea why, but nor the time nor the place to go in to that.

I would say nay to this proposal. Because it greatest unnecassery meddling of the UN. Because I don't think it will support the economy at all. I only think it will give a very small increase of civil rights, because people have more freedom in what they do by removing a "gambling is forbidden" law in nations.

I think this falls under the category of "I could care less about what you do."

I already have legalize gambling. If it moves or can move, we'd gamble on it. Unless you are going to ban gambling, then it is no concern to me whether you choose to have gambling or not.

The proposal calls for at least 33% (one-third) of the profits from gambling be used to promote responsible gaming, community programs, social programs, and compulsive gambling program to mitigate the bad effects caused by gambling and to better promote social equality.

Because of that Ithuania and any other moral nation will vote "no".

It is not government's job to either promote or discourage activities of this sort.

MESSAGE FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF BOA VISTA

Boa Vista, as a large and democratic nation, understands the importance of religion and morals within a society.
Religion has nothing to do with morality.

Ultimately, the choice to gamble lies with the gambler. He and he alone is responsible for whatever comes about as a result of that. It is not the place of government to either encourage or discourage such behaviors.

The proposal calls for at least 33% (one-third) of the profits from gambling be used to promote responsible gaming, community programs, social programs, and compulsive gambling program to mitigate the bad effects caused by gambling and to better promote social equality.

Because of that Ithuania and any other moral nation will vote "no".

It is not government's job to either promote or discourage activities of this sort.

MESSAGE FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF BOA VISTA

Boa Vista, as a large and democratic nation, understands the importance of religion and morals within a society.
Religion has nothing to do with morality.

Ultimately, the choice to gamble lies with the gambler. He and he alone is responsible for whatever comes about as a result of that. It is not the place of government to either encourage or discourage such behaviors.

There are some governments that discourage gambling on the grounds of morality and religion. Their actions causes their people to suffer. Gambling, along with tourism and services industry, will be the driving forces of developing economies. It can change the lives of many people.

The proposal calls for at least 33% (one-third) of the profits from gambling be used to promote responsible gaming, community programs, social programs, and compulsive gambling program to mitigate the bad effects caused by gambling and to better promote social equality.

Because of that Ithuania and any other moral nation will vote "no".

It is not government's job to either promote or discourage activities of this sort.

MESSAGE FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF BOA VISTA

Boa Vista, as a large and democratic nation, understands the importance of religion and morals within a society.
Religion has nothing to do with morality.

Ultimately, the choice to gamble lies with the gambler. He and he alone is responsible for whatever comes about as a result of that. It is not the place of government to either encourage or discourage such behaviors.

Actually religoen has a lot to do with morality. Religeon can be described as a package of morals. Package deal, so made that they function well to gather. This is an acceptable definition for an athiest. A believer says that there is a god too.

Whether it is the choice of the gambler can debated. It depends on your few of civil rights. Liberal would say that any person has the freedom the screw up his life. Some governement don't agree. If a person screws up his life he will harm the community and the entire nation. A community puts a lot of effort in getting someone from baby to adult stage. And a community gets a lot out of a civilian, certainly if he works. First of all taxes, but there is actualy much more to it.
But a government can make a case for saying you are not allowed to screw up your life.
However if a government does that indiscretionally and for what IT precives as usufull, the result might be civil unrest.
So I guess there is a fine balance to be walked.

There are some governments that discourage gambling on the grounds of morality and religion. Their actions causes their people to suffer. Gambling, along with tourism and services industry, will be the driving forces of developing economies. It can change the lives of many people.

Do note my little detail about economy some where up.
The actuall thing is this.
On one philosphy doing something that is paid for increases the economy. In asome others, it matters to what is being bought too.

The argument that gambling is desired by people, because they are willing to spend money on it afcourse stands. But that same thing counts for sigerattes, and all kinds of drugs.

I am willing to bow to the fact that all those things increase the economy in the current economic theories. And that curing it will increase the economy again. This is because they suggest that economic strength is based on the amount of money going around, and that money reprents the value any acttion has, the worth it has in making peoples lives better. Afcourse that is based on rational self-intrest. Whatever people make the best choices for themselves might however not always be the case. It is a much critized point of the current economic theories.

The fact that you included in the proposal that there should be a gabling tax to be spend on curing is a fair way of making it equal again. It will seriously increase the cost of gambling to pay for the lives that it screws up. This will result in a realistic price for the cost of gambling. At that point you could say that that people who are still willing to do it, are free to do it at the REAL price.

That is a bit how my country works. We don't like to forbid things :P. We just ask a lot of money to cover the negative side effects.

Sad you didn't try to correct me Boa ;) and prefered to just repeat yourself :P