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WITHDRAW YOUR VOTES! Vote AGAINST "No Embargoes on Medicine!"

The Principality of Pentarix (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=pentarix) says:

A recent debate I followed involved a poorly defined mandate and required you to help the enemy with whom you were fighting a war by not imposing embargos on medical supplies and allowing doctors to move freely between the nations. That in and of itself is all fine and dandy. However in a time of war, this only seeks to lengthen the battle and will eventually, in turn, cause the deaths of more people. With the loose wording of the proposal, we felt it left too much opportunity for spies to enter our nations under the guise of medical assistance with the possibility to poison rather then to heal. For the reason that we are not about to be directed by the ideals of the weak-minded, we have chosen to abstain and encourage you to investigate and STRONGLY CONSIDER this for yourselves.

Do you want us to withdraw our votes or vote against? Make up your mind please.

maybe he wants no one to vote on it...


anyways antibiotics do not allow soldiers who were wounded to go back to the front lines, all it changes is that soldiers who are wounded stand a greater chance of living. Now even though they live it doesnt mean they can still fight, there is a big difference

Do you want us to withdraw our votes or vote against?

Unfortunately, "FOR" is currently the most popular vote. We are requesting that those of you that may have voted "FOR" recall your votes and vote "AGAINST."

While I don't like the idea of shooting POWs during a war I think it's another thing to try to weeken your enemy by reducing their supply of medicen. Also so many spies get into countries during wars that giving one more way for them to get seems unecesary.

maybe he wants no one to vote on it...


anyways antibiotics do not allow soldiers who were wounded to go back to the front lines, all it changes is that soldiers who are wounded stand a greater chance of living. Now even though they live it doesnt mean they can still fight, there is a big difference

I could not disagree more! Unless wars always happen in a matter of days, recovery from even serious wounds for the sake of returning to battle is the first aim of front-line military medicine. You need to watch more M*A*S*H on the tele! Most wars are longer lasting than the two in IRAQ.

Anyway, it sounds so inhumane to reduce access to medical treatment for the sake of military gain, but that is a big part of cutting supply lines which every Army seeks to do to its enemy. It is an essential strategy of war. Evenso, it is critical that we OPPOSE this Resolution because its undesired effect will always be to prolong war and thereby increase the number of innocent, civilian casualties.

Besides, how can you force a nation to send medical or any other kind of beneficial supplies to its enemy?

Change your FOR vote to an AGAINST vote, for the sake of the innocents--and for the sake of common sense!

OOC: He's just a stupid little n00b

OOC: He's just a stupid little n00b


Ad Hominem comments are so unattractive and intellectually dishonest. How poor of mind one must be to respond to 4 paragraphs of reason with no real argument at all!

For all you know this n00b is a PhD. Your comment was a kind of slur, but you don't even know who you are slurring. So silly.

If you would like to debate the merits of the matter, let's do.

UND

Yup. Definately a n00b. Only n00bs get offended so easily. lol. Although I am not sure who Druze was talking about. And he has been founded quite recently. Just because his post count is high doesn't mean that he isn't a n00b as well. There seem to be a lot of n00bs here. :lol:

But seriously UND, M*A*S*H is a rediculous comparison, especially since the series lasted much longer than the actual war. However, I agree that this resolution is a bad idea. The rest of your arguments make sense, and I think that along with the arguments presented previously by other nations it proves that this resolution is flawed and unrealistic.

This has been an OOC post.

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I agree with UND. That was an unprovoked ad hominem attack, which, as you might no, is a fallacy in life as well as debate. By doing such in the intellectual world, you would be ignored, looked down up, and in most cases laughed at for such an absurb and obviously slurring statement.

UND is right, people. Most countries do not cease fighting until they become aware they cannot win the war, for whatever reason. By restricting medical supplies, you are actually hastening the end of the war. It took a nuclear weapon for Japan to realize they could not win; imagine what would have happened if we would have said to the Japanese, "Oh, we are SO sorry we bombed you! Here, take all this aid, and oh, take this 10 billion dollars in medical supplies and clean up your poor town. Oh, accept our humble apologies!" The war would have had to become an invasion of Japan, with horrific amounts of casualties on both sides. The time that was right for us to help was after the war; with our help, Japan became a country with one of the biggest economies in the world in just under half a century.

So, the point I am trying to make, is that though this resolution seems humanitarian and beneficial to the world, it actually achieves the opposite of its purpose. The Federation of Aramar urges all to withdrawal their votes and vote AGAINST the resolution.

The Supreme Chancellor of the Federation of Aramar,

Marcus Flavius IV

Knowing that it will pass, I have made a list of revisions as a proposal. If you wish this to be adjusted properly, head to No Embargos revised. It is one of the newest proposals, and vote for it.

Knowing that it will pass, I have made a list of revisions as a proposal. If you wish this to be adjusted properly, head to No Embargos revised. It is one of the newest proposals, and vote for it.

This is greatly appreciated! I would encourage all to follow us in encouraging this proposal!