NationStates Jolt Archive


An End to Cruel Sports

Benedictimus Te
10-10-2003, 20:25
I have just submitted a proposal which requires delegates' attention, entitled 'An End to Cruel Sports' - I would also be interested to know everyone's feelings on this.

Thanks!
Alabammy
10-10-2003, 20:27
Let me take ya huntin' sometime.

I'll show ya what it's all about...

No, ya won't be needin' a gun or nothin'.

And ya don't need to be lettin' anyone else know where we're goin' neither.

-Prez Billy Bob Hicklee
10-10-2003, 21:14
Although I find the fox hunt to be an archaic pastime and generally beneath my feet. I will not force my values upon another nation or person for a fox.

When the foxes levy a formal complaint then I may change my tune but until then they are just dumb animals (they have no view of future or past they have no aspirations goals or dreams for their children)and robbing them of life is not a crime IMO.
10-10-2003, 21:27
hunting is not in any means cruel just as long as the person hunting respects the laws on hunting, fishing etc. Now if the person hunting brutally beats the animal to death then that person should be punished. You would need people to enforce the laws of hunting such as the game commision. in the bible it even says "Everything that lives and moves will be food for you." Genisis 9-3
10-10-2003, 21:31
Hunting is fine. It keeps populations down, especially with deer here in the US. If there was no hunting season, deer would be eating everything. We killed many of their natural predators between 1700 and on.
(slaps humankind on the wrist) Stupids!
10-10-2003, 21:39
I would not ban the disgusting sport of bull fighting either.

Cruel or not I am not going to push my values off on you.

Let the chickens fight if that is your tradition. I hope you grow out of it.

In my country I will not ban hunting but I definitely will ban the torture of animals.
11-10-2003, 03:07
I like to fish with dynamite. You don't want to ban that, do you?
11-10-2003, 05:44
The Fox (my nations animal) should not be hunted. Only traquilized. The badger isn't very cute and neither the fish and there are 5 trillion fish so take as mamy you want of those and bullfighting isn't cool. You fool a animal into running at you and you stab it. Don't the Spanish remember they're really good at soccer.
11-10-2003, 11:53
What the hell do you mean, put an end to fishing??
11-10-2003, 16:07
Foxhunting, badger baiting and fishing?? hmmmmm

Offhand, we're inclined to condemn "badger baiting" (is there much of that going on???), be tolerant of fishing, and reserve judgment on foxhunting.

But really, are these international matters of such importance that the U.N. should legislate for everyone? I assume you are referring to sport fishing, and not fishing as a source of food for much of the world's population.
Collaboration
12-10-2003, 01:24
What the hell do you mean, put an end to fishing??That's what we thought.
At least foxes might seem cuddly and cute. Badgers? That's marginal but understandable. But fish? What mammal could sympathize with the pangs of the piscine?
Besides, every civilization has enjoyed fishing, bar none.
12-10-2003, 01:52
I have a better idea--let's NOT restrict what humans can do to subhuman species.
12-10-2003, 03:46
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12-10-2003, 08:41
The only badger baiting i know of is when my school plays Wisconsin...;)
Collaboration
12-10-2003, 18:09
The only badger baiting i know of is when my school plays Wisconsin...;)

Are you a Wildcat perchance? (I'm NU).
It's great fun to watch those wild animals frolic and cavort on a Staurday, is it not?
13-10-2003, 03:21
It could be argued that humans are responsible for the problems that would result if hunting was banned. We have after all removed species that we have deemed to be a threat to ourselves. Thus removing a link of the food chain and damaging the eco-system.

We are in the position of supporting hunting for the purposes of food. When it becomes a pastime for sport, we strongly object.

Unfortunately, we recognise that we as one nation cannot force that view on others, nor suggest an effective way of enforcing a policy that might result from it.

As a parting shot, we comment that humans are animals any way you try to dress up the facts, and find it amusing that we constantly try to distance ourselves from other animals.
Tisonica
13-10-2003, 03:27
I have a better idea--let's NOT restrict what humans can do to subhuman species.

For some reason I've decided to keep it illegal in my country to sodomize their house pets to death....

I thought you said better idea...
13-10-2003, 03:47
My idea IS a better idea.

If you own the animal, you have every right to do as you please with it (as long as you don't cause defraud or cause physical harm to the person or property of another individual).
Tisonica
13-10-2003, 04:49
My idea IS a better idea.

If you own the animal, you have every right to do as you please with it (as long as you don't cause defraud or cause physical harm to the person or property of another individual).

So basically, Ithuania is for legalizing the sodomizing of animals to death...

Just repeat it a few times, let what you just said sink in. :roll:
13-10-2003, 06:18
Pretty much, yeah.

If you like buttfucking goats, go right ahead. They're not human, so you can do whatever the hell you want with them.
Oppressed Possums
13-10-2003, 14:24
All sports should be full contact.
Collaboration
13-10-2003, 14:28
I love fishing.
You'll pry my rod out of my cold dead hands.
Wait, that didn't sound right...
Tisonica
14-10-2003, 04:22
Pretty much, yeah.

If you like f--- goats, go right ahead. They're not human, so you can do whatever the hell you want with them.

Is this a matter of "Intellegence" or do you just believe some crazy story about god telling us we could do whatever we want with them. Because it may interest you to know a goat has all the same brain functions as a human, except insight. And a very smart chimpanzee is more intellegent than a mentally retarded child, chimpanzee's can actually be taught to talk. So please offer any logical explaination to legalizing the sodmoy of animals to death.

And don't give me that, we have the right to sodomize anima;s because we exist crap. You ran away when I proved you wrong on that before, so rehashing it is just showing the weaknesses in your argument.