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Don't some members realize that there are many UN member nations that have already extensive space colonies?

It makes no sense when UN proposals and resolutions assume that all UN countries are on Earth. [ooc: especially when Earth is about ten times larger than Jupiter.]

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate
NPA Member

Our region doesn't care about some time-consuming money wasting Space Projects.

We go against any proposals before they reach the floor.

Aloha,
Beanie-San

Think of the profits and benefits to come out of space travel however :D

Think of the profits and benefits to come out of space travel however :D

Name any.

I know MobQue would rather spend money on its police force and the gambling industry than waste it on usless space travel.

Don't some members realize that there are many UN member nations that have already extensive space colonies?

It makes no sense when UN proposals and resolutions assume that all UN countries are on Earth. [ooc: especially when Earth is about ten times larger than Jupiter.]

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate
NPA Member


Okay, someone forgot to educate you on the nature of Jupiter. Jupiter is called a GAS giant for a reason.

(Note to self, this individual has a limited (very) understanding of basic science.)

I suggest Goobergunchia flees back to his own temporal loop. It is of no interest AT ALL to even have a NSUN if proposals can't be time-specific. We of Walt Dixie, who live on Earth, Octobre the 6th, 2003, could easily imagine a future where there were replicators, and hence all proposals involving world hunger could essentially be irrelevant.
However, we are realists who have set on a journey to think of original ideas to solve today's problems (those who are interested, can always read the essays that will appear in the NationStates forum). We are very tolerant people, and by all means, live your dreams. However, it would be nice to at least have sensible science fiction. It's been too easy for Guy to disprove all of this contrived futurism. Take an example from Isamov and Clarke, among others.

Respectfully,
Walt Dixie

Think of the profits and benefits to come out of space travel however :D

Name any.
The arms industry. You never know what you'll run into out there. You need big guns to defend yourself.
Tourism.
Slaves.
Mercenaries.
Car industry. With hundreds of Earthlike planets to colonise theres no need anymore for enviromentally friendly cars.
Piracy.
Bounty hunting.

Name any.

Although we have not seen many benefits from space travel itself, we have reaped enormous benefits and made fantastic discoveries trying to get to space and stay there. These include velcro, fireman suits, biohazard suits, flame-retardant materials, remote medical tracking equipment, and many more things. I am donig research on heat pipes and loop heat pipes, devices used for cooling on space ships. They are passive devices that use a fluid's heat of vaporization to transfer enormous amounts of heat from point A to point B. Currently, miniaturized heat pipes are used to transfer heat away from the processor in laptops, thus protecting your lap. If loop heat pipes can be similarly miniaturized, you could comfortably keep a laptop on your lap for days. Maybe we could have developed these things here on earth eventually, but without the larger goal and bigger challenge, I doubt we would be using all of them today.

See, this is why I left the UN. I have plenty of space programs, I ain't wasting my money on other people's.

This is a friendly reminder to the ISI from the USNE Space Force to stay the f*ck away from our colonies and space stations. All violations of this will encourage a new project for the ISI-Salvage and Rescue Operations.
The USNE Space Force-
"Bringing humanity in a new direction- Away from our territory."

Don't some members realize that there are many UN member nations that have already extensive space colonies?

It makes no sense when UN proposals and resolutions assume that all UN countries are on Earth. [ooc: especially when Earth is about ten times larger than Jupiter.]

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate
NPA Member


Okay, someone forgot to educate you on the nature of Jupiter. Jupiter is called a GAS giant for a reason.

(Note to self, this individual has a limited (very) understanding of basic science.)

I am referring to the NationStates world, which couldn't exist in reality. As of September 4, the total NS population was 29,244,316 Million according to this thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77793).

I suggest Goobergunchia flees back to his own temporal loop. It is of no interest AT ALL to even have a NSUN if proposals can't be time-specific.

I have noticed that most UN proposals are not time-specific. In fact, ISI is the first one I have noticed that is.

This has been an OOC post.

Don't some members realize that there are many UN member nations that have already extensive space colonies?

It makes no sense when UN proposals and resolutions assume that all UN countries are on Earth. [ooc: especially when Earth is about ten times larger than Jupiter.]

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate
NPA Member

If it isn't too much bother, it would be helpful to my nation if you could make a short, even incomplete, list of some of these spacefaring nations.
Our program is in its infancy and we need some satellite deliveries and so forth.

Some SpaceFaring nations uh well:

Teritora
Kecha
Xanthal
Alantian Outcasts
DNS
Scolopendra
Menelmacar
Zoir
and Sunset to name a few. theres whole allances of spacefaring nations.

Think of the profits and benefits to come out of space travel however :D

Name any.

Oh, sole ownership of whole planets comes to mind, with all the land and resources that implies.


Don't tell me, let me guess...your mama dropped you on your head a few times, right?

Some SpaceFaring nations uh well:

Teritora
Kecha
Xanthal
Alantian Outcasts
DNS
Scolopendra
Menelmacar
Zoir
and Sunset to name a few. theres whole allances of spacefaring nations.

Any existing colony who wants one. This includes Generation Ships and anyone who is in the process of FORMING a new colony.

Think of the profits and benefits to come out of space travel however :D

Name any.
The arms industry. You never know what you'll run into out there. You need big guns to defend yourself.
Tourism.
Slaves.
Mercenaries.
Car industry. With hundreds of Earthlike planets to colonise theres no need anymore for enviromentally friendly cars.
Piracy.
Bounty hunting.

You forgot Terra Forming

Don't some members realize that there are many UN member nations that have already extensive space colonies?

It makes no sense when UN proposals and resolutions assume that all UN countries are on Earth. [ooc: especially when Earth is about ten times larger than Jupiter.]

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate
NPA Member


Okay, someone forgot to educate you on the nature of Jupiter. Jupiter is called a GAS giant for a reason.

(Note to self, this individual has a limited (very) understanding of basic science.)

He was making comparison a size, not make-up. And everyone compares NS to Jupiter. There's no way to explain why one NSer which 6 or 7 countries can, by himself, have more people the the entire RL world.

Don't some members realize that there are many UN member nations that have already extensive space colonies?

It makes no sense when UN proposals and resolutions assume that all UN countries are on Earth. [ooc: especially when Earth is about ten times larger than Jupiter.]

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate
NPA Member


Okay, someone forgot to educate you on the nature of Jupiter. Jupiter is called a GAS giant for a reason.

(Note to self, this individual has a limited (very) understanding of basic science.)

He was making comparison a size, not make-up. And everyone compares NS to Jupiter. There's no way to explain why one NSer which 6 or 7 countries can, by himself, have more people the the entire RL world.

Even at size comparison Jupiter bigger than Earth, That big gas giant could suck up many, many M5 class plants like Earth and have room for plenty more.

I know.

I have a large colony on Mars, and am acquiring more quickly.

The reed and the oak though.

I know.

I have a large colony on Mars, and am acquiring more quickly.

The reed and the oak though.

Name any.

Although we have not seen many benefits from space travel itself, we have reaped enormous benefits and made fantastic discoveries trying to get to space and stay there. These include velcro, fireman suits, biohazard suits, flame-retardant materials, remote medical tracking equipment, and many more things. I am donig research on heat pipes and loop heat pipes, devices used for cooling on space ships. They are passive devices that use a fluid's heat of vaporization to transfer enormous amounts of heat from point A to point B. Currently, miniaturized heat pipes are used to transfer heat away from the processor in laptops, thus protecting your lap. If loop heat pipes can be similarly miniaturized, you could comfortably keep a laptop on your lap for days. Maybe we could have developed these things here on earth eventually, but without the larger goal and bigger challenge, I doubt we would be using all of them today.

Point conceded, although I still don't like the fact that the resolution passed. :D

Think of the profits and benefits to come out of space travel however :D

Name any.

A hold on rare resources found on other planets. Imagine how rich that'd get you :shock:

[quote="Goobergunchia]
I have noticed that most UN proposals are not time-specific. In fact, ISI is the first one I have noticed that is.

[\quote]

The word "heh" never knew such an expanse of meaning.

"To give every child under the age of 16 the right to a free education"
ïs time-specific. If this right existed beforehand, then the resolution would be void of meaning. By the same reasoning as the comment about space proposals.

"The removal of regions in DVD's that prevent a user from one region watching the DVD's form another. One region is all wek need."

time-specific

"End Slavery"
time-specific

As you may have noticed by now, the time itself doesn't really matter. Point is: in NSUN time dimension overlap, it has or has not occured. The only way to verify this, is by checking whether it has been voted or not.

Plenty more examples where that came from, btw.