NationStates Jolt Archive

I have proposed the following motion to pass to quorum in the UN Assembly:

BE IT RESOLVED:

THAT Member Nations will subsidize the production and distribtuion of contraceptives, to an extent that the use of contraceptives will be legal and inexepensive in their nation and accessible to all who request them regardless of age, sex, race, ethnicity or gender.

THAT in the event of rape, as defined by national law, that emergency contraception be provided free of charge and as rapidly as possible.

While I support unregulated access to contraceptives and abortion, I will not support this bill, as it necessary takes money away from hardworking people to give it to others who had careless sex.

Besides subsidies don't lower prices. THe US Omnibus Farm Bill is predicted to have INCREASED grocery prices by 15-20%.

While I support unregulated access to contraceptives and abortion, I will not support this bill, as it necessary takes money away from hardworking people to give it to others who had careless sex.

Your comment is only a negative side-effect of the proposal. What the proposal will do is allow contracpetives for everyone, and emergency contraceptives for those who have been raped. Is rape "careless sex?"

THAT in the event of rape, as defined by national law, that emergency contraception be provided free of charge and as rapidly as possible.

Uhhh... I thought contraceptives are only effective at preventing fertilization DURING and not AFTER sex? Free contraceptives for raped women won't help at all. :(

THAT in the event of rape, as defined by national law, that emergency contraception be provided free of charge and as rapidly as possible.

Uhhh... I thought contraceptives are only effective at preventing fertilization DURING and not AFTER sex? Free contraceptives for raped women won't help at all. :(

:!: There are "morning-after" pills (and the like) that a woman can take after sex to insure that pregnancy will not begin or continue.

It's a great for alot of these third world countries that have these really big families that they can't afford to feed. They need to be educated in the fact that they can still have fun and do the nasty without popping out babies whom most of them get sick or starve to death.

While I support unregulated access to contraceptives and abortion, I will not support this bill, as it necessary takes money away from hardworking people to give it to others who had careless sex.

Besides subsidies don't lower prices. THe US Omnibus Farm Bill is predicted to have INCREASED grocery prices by 15-20%.

As the use of the contraceptives is not required, it will actually do the opposite (i.e. take money away from people who have carefree sex and give it to hard-working people who use contraceptives).

Some people object to sex outside of marriage or for purposes other than procreation. Although I don't share their sentiments, why should they be forced to subsidize a behavior to which they object?

Some people object to sex outside of marriage or for purposes other than procreation. Although I don't share their sentiments, why should they be forced to subsidize a behavior to which they object?

I'm sure there are ways we 'subsidize' behaviors that we object to (me, for example, can't figure out why we subsidize the tobacco industry in the US if their products are so harmful to us).

The impetus behind the proposal was a way to allow for low-cost contraception that would thus prevent unwanted (possibly criminal) pregnancies and therefore skirt the issue of abortion, an issue which I doubt would ever reach quorum (pro or con). Why not stop things before they begin?

I'd heavy tax them in my county.

They low birth numbers are hurting the economy...

Some people object to sex outside of marriage or for purposes other than procreation. Although I don't share their sentiments, why should they be forced to subsidize a behavior to which they object?

Rape? Of course you can go to a health clinic and get a cheap contraceptive if you're REALLY concerned with pregnancy.

This resolution makes no allowances for nations that are theocratic or otherwise dominated by religious groups that are openly opposed to contraception. If nation X believes that contraception is sinful, then why should the UN compel them to provide it?

How about simply sterilizing the poor then you'd only have to pay once. That way they can have all the sex they want without dragging the economy down supporting their contraceptive habits.

This resolution makes no allowances for nations that are theocratic or otherwise dominated by religious groups that are openly opposed to contraception. If nation X believes that contraception is sinful, then why should the UN compel them to provide it?

We would support such a provision, provided the nations using it would be responsible for their own public health crises related to unwanted pregnancies and sexually-transmitted diseases.

Some people object to sex outside of marriage or for purposes other than procreation. Although I don't share their sentiments, why should they be forced to subsidize a behavior to which they object?

Rape? Of course you can go to a health clinic and get a cheap contraceptive if you're REALLY concerned with pregnancy.

If you're getting raped, you're not going to have time to put on a condom or spread yourself with spermicide beforehand.

Rape? Of course you can go to a health clinic and get a cheap contraceptive if you're REALLY concerned with pregnancy.[/quote]

If you're getting raped, you're not going to have time to put on a condom or spread yourself with spermicide beforehand.[/quote]

:!: Bingo! Which is why emergency contraception is necessary, especially in a subsidized form, so that any female may gain access to it, no matter how safe her environment is.

Keep in mind when the proposal says subsidy, it means just that, a subsidy; not FREE, and contingent on the economic status of each country.

Proactive involvement in rape crisis centers and counseling after the fact would be greatly augmented by the subsidization of contraceptives. Though it cannot 'take back' the injustice already inflicted upon the woman, immediate action in the form of morning after pills can help keep intact some mental stability for the victim by ensuring there is not a lasting reminder to the violation. Also, the birth control can also keep a nation healthy through the diagnosis and treatment of certain sexually transmitted diseases. This will go a long way to maintain a healthy and viable population of any country.

Contraception is not available under any circumstances in the Holy Empire of Pantocratoria. I hope it is clear that for this reason, we would not support such a bill.

It looks like the proposal isn't going to make it -- but with only 64 more votes needed for it to become a resolution, that ain't so bad. I've made a list of those already voting for the proposal, and if it doesn't make quorum by the end of the day, I'll re-introduce it.