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Support the Gay Rights Act!

27-09-2003, 23:30
I would like all U.N. delegates to vote for this proposal. Please post your answers here and state why. Feel free to debate it.
Zachnia
28-09-2003, 01:42
I just don't see why people havea problem with it. It doesn't affect others at all, and yet some are so strongly opposed to it.
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 02:06
I agree. Homosexuality is a strictly personal choice. Nothing wrong with that.
Tisonica
28-09-2003, 02:14
I agree. Homosexuality is a strictly personal choice. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't know for sure because I'm not a homosexual but I've been told it's not a personal choice. Commiting homosexual acts is however.
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 02:15
I agree. Homosexuality is a strictly personal choice. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't know for sure because I'm not a homosexual but I've been told it's not a personal choice. Commiting homosexual acts is however.

... What is it with you an semantics? lol.
Tisonica
28-09-2003, 02:17
I agree. Homosexuality is a strictly personal choice. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't know for sure because I'm not a homosexual but I've been told it's not a personal choice. Commiting homosexual acts is however.

... What is it with you an semantics? lol.

What is it with you and semantics?

You pathetic excuse for a fuck.... :P
28-09-2003, 02:23
I agree. Homosexuality is a strictly personal choice. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't know for sure because I'm not a homosexual but I've been told it's not a personal choice. Commiting homosexual acts is however.

... What is it with you an semantics? lol.

What is it with you and semantics?

You pathetic excuse for a f---.... :P

I don't think homosexuality is a choice, thats like saying race is a choice, or gender is a choice. Some people just don't have feeling for the opposite sex- and personally, who cares? O ya, all those people that treat people differently because of there sexual preference.
28-09-2003, 02:25
I seem to be confused, why are people so opposed to this proposal?? :?
Zachnia
28-09-2003, 03:18
I agree. Homosexuality is a strictly personal choice. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't know for sure because I'm not a homosexual but I've been told it's not a personal choice. Commiting homosexual acts is however.

It's best to think of it like this... Could you CHOOSE to be gay? Just decide one day, hey I'm going to enjoy romantic relationships with otherss of my sex..... No. You might try it, then either decide if it's for you or not. But, after trying it, you can't decide whether you like it or not.
Tisonica
28-09-2003, 03:23
I agree. Homosexuality is a strictly personal choice. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't know for sure because I'm not a homosexual but I've been told it's not a personal choice. Commiting homosexual acts is however.

It's best to think of it like this... Could you CHOOSE to be gay? Just decide one day, hey I'm going to enjoy romantic relationships with otherss of my sex..... No. You might try it, then either decide if it's for you or not. But, after trying it, you can't decide whether you like it or not.

You could also choose to be black, or white, by getting certain chemicals injected into your skin.
Shinra X
28-09-2003, 03:34
Define gay rights.

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing it falls under the Right to Enslave. Just vote for that. If a guy doesn't want to hire you because you're gay, but you want to be hired, hey, the poorer of the two has the Right to Enslave the other.
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 03:39
Define gay rights.

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing it falls under the Right to Enslave. Just vote for that. If a guy doesn't want to hire you because you're gay, but you want to be hired, hey, the poorer of the two has the Right to Enslave the other.

I think this means like same-sex marriage, no discrimination against gays in PUBLIC facilities and institutions, etc., all of which I fully support.
Shinra X
28-09-2003, 03:43
If that's what it means, I want to know what public facilities discriminate against gays. I don't support anyone trotting around in whatever bathroom they feel like being in at the moment. Also, by not discriminating against gays in public, would that follow with discrimination against the boy scouts in public? I wouldn't be for that either.
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 03:44
If that's what it means, I want to know what public facilities discriminate against gays. I don't support anyone trotting around in whatever bathroom they feel like being in at the moment. Also, by not discriminating against gays in public, would that follow with discrimination against the boy scouts in public? I wouldn't be for that either.

Huh? The boy scouts should admit gays if they are a public organization...
Shinra X
28-09-2003, 03:47
Do they receive government funds? I have no clue. Regardless, public organizations need to be eliminated. What I mean is, would they be prohibited from advertising in, say, a school? If they were, then we should also prohibit advertising of any group that has any requirement whatever in all government buildings.
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 03:49
Do they receive government funds? I have no clue. Regardless, public organizations need to be eliminated. What I mean is, would they be prohibited from advertising in, say, a school? If they were, then we should also prohibit advertising of any group that has any requirement whatever in all government buildings.

Yes of course public organizations should be eliminated in the long run, but doing that IMMEDIATLEY would cause way too much problems.
Zachnia
28-09-2003, 04:29
Shinra X, you are being closed minded, and purposefully annoying. Kindly stop talking and complaining about gay rights.
28-09-2003, 04:49
i think homosexuality is the worst thing anyone could ever do....i dont have a problem with the actual homosexuals...i do have a problem with the idea of 2 ppl of the same sex pretending they can have sex with each other and living together and so on and so forth....it is a discrace to the human race...(that rhymed....sweet)
Zachnia
28-09-2003, 04:53
i think homosexuality is the worst thing anyone could ever do....i dont have a problem with the actual homosexuals...i do have a problem with the idea of 2 ppl of the same sex pretending they can have sex with each other and living together and so on and so forth....it is a discrace to the human race...(that rhymed....sweet)

haha, you're quite witty. With the rhyme thing... and all. Anyway, you are basically contradicting yourself. It's like saying I have don't have a problem with carrots, but I hate orange vegetables eaten widely around the world. I dont exactly see why you have such a problem with it. They have their own preferences... let them keep that. You don't have to share that preference, but you do need to accept it.
28-09-2003, 04:53
I just want to know why the same proposal is submitted at least once a week. How come so many people send in the same damn 'Equal Rights For Gays!' thing so often? For the record, there's already resolutions that grant gays very equal rights. This is a moot point, because it's already this way.
28-09-2003, 04:57
I agree. Homosexuality is a strictly personal choice. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't know for sure because I'm not a homosexual but I've been told it's not a personal choice. Commiting homosexual acts is however.

It's best to think of it like this... Could you CHOOSE to be gay? Just decide one day, hey I'm going to enjoy romantic relationships with otherss of my sex..... No. You might try it, then either decide if it's for you or not. But, after trying it, you can't decide whether you like it or not.

Are you suggesting that homosexuality is genetic? You seem to know more then geneticists then, because THEY can't prove that. Your argument holds as much power as anyone elses. As far as I know, it can't be proven that outside influences or personal choices (be they conscious or unconscious) make you gay, but you can't prove that it's genetic either.
28-09-2003, 05:55
Contents: Official Outsider Communication

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Greetings to all Outsiders:

This great nation, brought forth by the Great One to enlighten human beings from their weaknesses, The Theocracy of Hewhocaresnot, supports The Gay Rights Proposal. Our Ministry of Public Welfare has always supported equal rights for all our great citizens.

Our citizens, during the education process of 2 to 14 years old, get tested frequently by our Ministry of Education. By the time our citizens graduate from schooling at 14 years of age, The Ministry of Defense puts them in a military slot for the next mandatory 6 years. At age 20 the Ministry of Commerce, assigns them their lifetime occupation slot. Then they work until the retirement age of 85. At 85, they are no longer required to work and live in their respective glorious surroundings in there habitation block.

We do not have discrimination in our society, because we take care of our citizens from the cradle to the grave. We have eliminated social injustices by choosing everything for them. Our citizens have many hours of free time to pursue their own scheduled 4 hour recreation time block, as determined by our Ministry of Public Welfare.

What our citizens do during their 12 hour workday is our business. What they do during their 4-hour recreation time, is our business. But what they do during their 8-hours in their habitation block is theirs. We have always supported human rights, including the right to marry your most compatable mate, as determined from our Ministry of Public Welfare.

Respectfully yours by the Great Church of Hewhocaresnot,

Cardinal Nathaniel West
Ministry of Outsider Relations

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This communication has been approved by the Internal Political Ministry of the Church of Hewhocaresnot, & the Office of Grand Bishop Drahcir Rekcaw.
28-09-2003, 07:42
NEWS FROM ISLE OF ORLEANS WORLD SERVICE (OBC) --
ISLE COUNSELORS ENDORSE UNITED NATIONS' "GAY RIGHTS" RESOLUTION

Governing counselors unaniminously endorsed today a "Gay Rights" proposal being debated in the United Nations, following their communal sojourn to Key West this past week. They cautioned fellow UN members however, that the terms of the debate need to be realigned so as not to further muddle the issue.

Citizens of the Isle took a holiday in the Florida Keys in celebration of Hurricane Isabel sparing it and other neighbors. Proceeds from the excursion went to relieve suffering of those in the same environs as the Rev. Pat Robertson. He reportedly announced he was going to pray away the storm, which struck just under two weeks ago and send it back through the lands of GAYety, chiefly Key West and across the Gulf of Mexico to The Isle of Orleans. Instead, Robertson's native VIRGINia was wallopped.

The Isle of Orleans Governing Council did say however that they are wary of homosexuality being labeled as "a preference". "Really (homosexuality) is an ORIENTATION," said Marlon Gay, Secretary of Travel Affairs. "One can CHOOSE to exercise their orientation. Homosexuality is not, however, a "preference"; anymore than Hetrosexuality is."

"Furthermore," Sec. Gay continued, proponents of the UN Resolution "need to recast and redirect the issue. Homosexuals don't have a problem with "Homophobia". Only some HETROsexuals do. Hence, it is THEY that have to attend to their HETROSEXISM, and realize that we are just ONE BIG HUMAN FAMILY."

Secretary Gay also lead the Counselors into issuance of the "Proclaimation of Well Wishes" for "Fantasy Fest 2003" coming forth in just under one month. As with The Isle of Orleans' celebrations of Mardi Gras and Southern Decadence, Gay urged revelers to "(M)ask only their inhibitions -- Our humanity demands nothing less!"
28-09-2003, 10:04
Yes of course public organizations should be eliminated in the long run, but doing that IMMEDIATLEY would cause way too much problems.

Righto darling. Why would it create problems? Just get rid of them, they're enslaving people anyway, right? The private sector can take over any moment and make everything better. What problems? Nobody has a right to anything. The more undeserving lazy poor people don't get access to the things these institutions provide the better, they deserve it anyway.
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 14:00
Yes of course public organizations should be eliminated in the long run, but doing that IMMEDIATLEY would cause way too much problems.

Righto darling. Why would it create problems? Just get rid of them, they're enslaving people anyway, right? The private sector can take over any moment and make everything better. What problems? Nobody has a right to anything. The more undeserving lazy poor people don't get access to the things these institutions provide the better, they deserve it anyway.

We have a dangerously mixed economy right now. Change must COME GRADUALLY. A sudden shift to capitalism would have us end up like Russia and fail. A gradual shift to capitalism will have us growing at insanely high rates, like China is.

Think of socialism/capitalism as an operating system, and your national conditions (i.e. the presence of Rule of Law, Property Rights, Limited and Responsible Government, and Universal Education) is the processor. Capitalism is the BEST operating system, but in order to be able to run it, you have to have a good processor first. This is why when you try to use capitalism will probably fail if you use it in, say, Somalia.

However PURE CAPITALISM will succeed VERY WELL in a country that HAS maxmial Rule of Law, Property Rights, Limited and Responsible Government, and Universal Education.

However, since achieving perfect Rule of Law, Property Rights, Good Government, and Universal Education is impossible in the near future, so is pure capitalism. The more advanced a society is the more capitalist it should be. We're pretty advanced right now, but not advanced enough to have pure capitalism (for example if we ending all public funding for education NOW, that would hinder achieving Universal Education. This is why we partial privatization system where all schools are private but they are funded by tax credits FIRST before complete privatization).

Because in the end, you WILL need a government, albeit a tiny one, in capitalism. Someone will have to provide physical protection. Someone will have to create a stable currency, etc. And in teh words of PJ O'Rourke: "It actually takes a lot of effort to leave people alone."
Wolfish
28-09-2003, 14:07
I just want to know why the same proposal is submitted at least once a week. How come so many people send in the same damn 'Equal Rights For Gays!' thing so often? For the record, there's already resolutions that grant gays very equal rights. This is a moot point, because it's already this way.

Nobody reads any more.

THIS RESOLUTION IS REDUNDANT AS THE UN ALREADY ENFORCES IT IN EVERY MEMBER NATION.

There. Now my throat is sore from yelling.
Goobergunchia
28-09-2003, 19:07
I just want to know why the same proposal is submitted at least once a week. How come so many people send in the same damn 'Equal Rights For Gays!' thing so often? For the record, there's already resolutions that grant gays very equal rights. This is a moot point, because it's already this way.

Nobody reads any more.

THIS RESOLUTION IS REDUNDANT AS THE UN ALREADY ENFORCES IT IN EVERY MEMBER NATION.

There. Now my throat is sore from yelling.

*shocked*

You actually expect people to read and be informed before filing a UN proposal?
28-09-2003, 19:13
I agree. Homosexuality is a strictly personal choice. Nothing wrong with that.

I wouldn't know for sure because I'm not a homosexual but I've been told it's not a personal choice. Commiting homosexual acts is however.

It's best to think of it like this... Could you CHOOSE to be gay? Just decide one day, hey I'm going to enjoy romantic relationships with otherss of my sex..... No. You might try it, then either decide if it's for you or not. But, after trying it, you can't decide whether you like it or not.
Ya, I agree, but I'm not gay so I guess I just won't really know.....Maybe you evolve into being gay? :roll:
28-09-2003, 21:45
However, since achieving perfect Rule of Law, Property Rights, Good Government, and Universal Education is impossible in the near future, so is pure capitalism. The more advanced a society is the more capitalist it should be. We're pretty advanced right now, but not advanced enough to have pure capitalism (for example if we ending all public funding for education NOW, that would hinder achieving Universal Education. This is why we partial privatization system where all schools are private but they are funded by tax credits FIRST before complete privatization).



You know this is the exact thing they said when i was living in the soviet Union, just switch Capitalism for Communism and Universal Education for Industrial Capacity. Alarmingly similar.
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 21:47
However, since achieving perfect Rule of Law, Property Rights, Good Government, and Universal Education is impossible in the near future, so is pure capitalism. The more advanced a society is the more capitalist it should be. We're pretty advanced right now, but not advanced enough to have pure capitalism (for example if we ending all public funding for education NOW, that would hinder achieving Universal Education. This is why we partial privatization system where all schools are private but they are funded by tax credits FIRST before complete privatization).



You know this is the exact thing they said when i was living in the soviet Union, just switch Capitalism for Communism and Universal Education for Industrial Capacity. Alarmingly similar.

Only in the exact opposite way...

Capitalism leads to greater industrial capacity which leads to better government. Of course communism could give a SHORT-TERM boost to production, but after a maybe four or five years capitalism will be better.
28-09-2003, 22:37
You know this is the exact thing they said when i was living in the soviet Union, just switch Capitalism for Communism and Universal Education for Industrial Capacity. Alarmingly similar.

Only in the exact opposite way...

Capitalism leads to greater industrial capacity which leads to better government. Of course communism could give a SHORT-TERM boost to production, but after a maybe four or five years capitalism will be better.

I agree. Capitalism is much more efficient in todays'conditions. Communism is a far more long-term project than capitalism because you need insane production power to cope with the demands of the population. We are simply technologically not advanced enough for shared wealth yet, as a civilisation. However a balance of two is the only
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 22:41
You know this is the exact thing they said when i was living in the soviet Union, just switch Capitalism for Communism and Universal Education for Industrial Capacity. Alarmingly similar.

Only in the exact opposite way...

Capitalism leads to greater industrial capacity which leads to better government. Of course communism could give a SHORT-TERM boost to production, but after a maybe four or five years capitalism will be better.

I agree. Capitalism is much more efficient in todays'conditions. Communism is a far more long-term project than capitalism because you need insane production power to cope with the demands of the population. We are simply technologically not advanced enough for shared wealth yet, as a civilisation. However a balance of two is the only

Of c ourse you need a balance of the two. As I said before, we haven't achieved perfect Rule of Law, Property Rights, Limited Government, and Universal Education yet. I'd say 97% capitalism, 3% communism. Like Hong Kong.
28-09-2003, 22:58
Of c ourse you need a balance of the two. As I said before, we haven't achieved perfect Rule of Law, Property Rights, Limited Government, and Universal Education yet. I'd say 97% capitalism, 3% communism. Like Hong Kong.

Have you been to HK? Awful little place. Mildly good if you're rich but not particularly livable. They pay well of course, if you're an obstetrician.
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 23:02
Of c ourse you need a balance of the two. As I said before, we haven't achieved perfect Rule of Law, Property Rights, Limited Government, and Universal Education yet. I'd say 97% capitalism, 3% communism. Like Hong Kong.

Have you been to HK? Awful little place. Mildly good if you're rich but not particularly livable. They pay well of course, if you're an obstetrician.

Have you ever been to HK? I have family there. It's actually a quite good place. It has the best of both China and Europe.

The slums in HK are no worse than teh slums in any American city, and there are fewer of them.
28-09-2003, 23:20
Of c ourse you need a balance of the two. As I said before, we haven't achieved perfect Rule of Law, Property Rights, Limited Government, and Universal Education yet. I'd say 97% capitalism, 3% communism. Like Hong Kong.

Have you been to HK? Awful little place. Mildly good if you're rich but not particularly livable. They pay well of course, if you're an obstetrician.

Have you ever been to HK? I have family there. It's actually a quite good place. It has the best of both China and Europe.

The slums in HK are no worse than teh slums in any American city, and there are fewer of them.

Well I've never been to America. But I have been to HK.
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 23:21
Of c ourse you need a balance of the two. As I said before, we haven't achieved perfect Rule of Law, Property Rights, Limited Government, and Universal Education yet. I'd say 97% capitalism, 3% communism. Like Hong Kong.

Have you been to HK? Awful little place. Mildly good if you're rich but not particularly livable. They pay well of course, if you're an obstetrician.

Have you ever been to HK? I have family there. It's actually a quite good place. It has the best of both China and Europe.

The slums in HK are no worse than teh slums in any American city, and there are fewer of them.

Well I've never been to America. But I have been to HK.

Really? Where are you from? I'm a Chinese-American though from Shanghai, not from HK.
28-09-2003, 23:34
Really? Where are you from? I'm a Chinese-American though from Shanghai, not from HK.

I'm from a rather grey and unexciting place in Russia but I've lived in Essex, in Italy and now in Vancouver. I've been to HK to visit a friend.
28-09-2003, 23:34
Really? Where are you from? I'm a Chinese-American though from Shanghai, not from HK.

I'm from a rather grey and unexciting place in Russia but I've lived in Essex, in Italy and now in Vancouver. I've been to HK to visit a friend.
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 23:43
I'm from a rather grey and unexciting place in Russia but I've lived in Essex, in Italy and now in Vancouver. I've been to HK to visit a friend.

I'm from Shanghai. I've lived in Shanghai, Hong Kong, Philadelphia (in a tenament by the way), Delaware, and now Pittsburgh.

I've also had the honor of visiting Canada (incidentally Vancouver), South Korea, and Indonesia, where I have family in all three. I'm going to Singapore during my Christmas Break this year. It's the second most capitalist country on Earth. I know they beat people who litter with a bamboo cane, but hey, at least it keeps the mosquitoes out. :twisted:
28-09-2003, 23:49
I'm going to Singapore during my Christmas Break this year. It's the second most capitalist country on Earth. I know they beat people who litter with a bamboo cane, but hey, at least it keeps the mosquitoes out. :twisted:

At least it's not Saudi Arabia wher they chop hands off for anything at all, right?

What would the most capitalist place be then if not Singapore? HK?

Oh yeah we have our crappy areas too. Because our municipality is underfunded ><
The Global Market
28-09-2003, 23:56
I'm going to Singapore during my Christmas Break this year. It's the second most capitalist country on Earth. I know they beat people who litter with a bamboo cane, but hey, at least it keeps the mosquitoes out. :twisted:

At least it's not Saudi Arabia wher they chop hands off for anything at all, right?

What would the most capitalist place be then if not Singapore? HK?

Oh yeah we have our crappy areas too. Because our municipality is underfunded ><

Yeah HK is first, Singapore is second, third is actually a mid-east country, Bahrain, and fourth WAS Switzerland in 2000 but I think that changed.

As an interesting note, my dad, who grew up in Indonesia because of certain problems back home in China, learned English in Saudi Arabia because a Saudi teacher in Indonesia liked him :lol: and sent him there to study.
29-09-2003, 00:03
[quote="The Global Market"]Yeah HK is first, Singapore is second, third is actually a mid-east country, Bahrain, and fourth WAS Switzerland in 2000 but I think that changed.
quote]

Notice how they're all small, isolated, and located next to bigger, more powerful, more socialist neighbours :)
The Global Market
29-09-2003, 00:16
Yeah HK is first, Singapore is second, third is actually a mid-east country, Bahrain, and fourth WAS Switzerland in 2000 but I think that changed.


Notice how they're all small, isolated, and located next to bigger, more powerful, more socialist neighbours :)

And notice how they are outperforming their socialist neighbors :). Notice how they all have higher life expectancies, MUCH higher per capita income, etc...

Hong Kong does much better than China, Singapore beats Malaysia hands down, Bahrain... well anybody who isn't related to Saddam Hussein would rather live there than Iraq. I don't know what socialist countries surround Switzerland though?
29-09-2003, 00:36
Yeah HK is first, Singapore is second, third is actually a mid-east country, Bahrain, and fourth WAS Switzerland in 2000 but I think that changed.


Notice how they're all small, isolated, and located next to bigger, more powerful, more socialist neighbours :)

And notice how they are outperforming their socialist neighbors :). Notice how they all have higher life expectancies, MUCH higher per capita income, etc...

Hong Kong does much better than China, Singapore beats Malaysia hands down, Bahrain... well anybody who isn't related to Saddam Hussein would rather live there than Iraq. I don't know what socialist countries surround Switzerland though?

Hm, France, Germany - more socialist than the Swiss. All
I'm saying that these countries are strategically positioned to get a good part of the gross economic power of the bigger countries passing through them. Smart if you ask me.
The Global Market
29-09-2003, 00:37
Yeah HK is first, Singapore is second, third is actually a mid-east country, Bahrain, and fourth WAS Switzerland in 2000 but I think that changed.


Notice how they're all small, isolated, and located next to bigger, more powerful, more socialist neighbours :)

And notice how they are outperforming their socialist neighbors :). Notice how they all have higher life expectancies, MUCH higher per capita income, etc...

Hong Kong does much better than China, Singapore beats Malaysia hands down, Bahrain... well anybody who isn't related to Saddam Hussein would rather live there than Iraq. I don't know what socialist countries surround Switzerland though?

Hm, France, Germany - more socialist than the Swiss. All
I'm saying that these countries are strategically positioned to get a good part of the gross economic power of the bigger countries passing through them. Smart if you ask me.

How does this work with Bahrain? And how does the gross economic power of bigger countries passing through them work? Considering that Malaysia has a very insular policy and so does Switzerland?
Zachnia
29-09-2003, 00:41
Oonamahambra....
No, I wasn't suggesting homoxexuality is genetic in anyway. I am in fact strongly opposed to the notion. I don't see how you made that connction, but I wasn explaining how homosexuality is not a choice, but rather a preference.
The Global Market
29-09-2003, 00:42
Oonamahambra....
No, I wasn't suggesting homoxexuality is genetic in anyway. I am in fact strongly opposed to the notion. I don't see how you made that connction, but I wasn explaining how homosexuality is not a choice, but rather a preference.

Sorry, Zachnia, but this post has been hijacked by

THE CAPITALISM BRIGADE

*Heroic Music in Background*
Zachnia
29-09-2003, 00:44
Oonamahambra....
No, I wasn't suggesting homoxexuality is genetic in anyway. I am in fact strongly opposed to the notion. I don't see how you made that connction, but I wasn explaining how homosexuality is not a choice, but rather a preference.

Sorry, Zachnia, but this post has been hijacked by

THE CAPITALISM BRIGADE

*Heroic Music in Background*

explain...
29-09-2003, 00:44
How does this work with Bahrain? And how does the gross economic power of bigger countries passing through them work? Considering that Malaysia has a very insular policy and so does Switzerland?

Bahrain. Hm. Well it's just oil-rich. And it's next to er, Saudi Arabia. Which is only socialist to princes. Basically HK has it good to be next to China. Singapore too, to a lesser extent, they don't produce anything much of their own, do they? They must depend at least partly on trading with Malaysia and Malaysia trading through them. Switzerland are little bastards because they get all the benefits of trading within Europe without actually commiting to anything. I don't know how right I am, just struck me as interesting.
29-09-2003, 00:45
Sorry, Zachnia, but this post has been hijacked by

THE CAPITALISM BRIGADE

*Heroic Music in Background*

Hahaha. Yes, true, isn't it? I guess we should let them debate the real topic now.
The Global Market
29-09-2003, 00:46
How does this work with Bahrain? And how does the gross economic power of bigger countries passing through them work? Considering that Malaysia has a very insular policy and so does Switzerland?

Bahrain. Hm. Well it's just oil-rich. And it's next to er, Saudi Arabia. Which is only socialist to princes. Basically HK has it good to be next to China. Singapore too, to a lesser extent, they don't produce anything much of their own, do they? They must depend at least partly on trading with Malaysia and Malaysia trading through them. Switzerland are little bastards because they get all the benefits of trading within Europe without actually commiting to anything. I don't know how right I am, just struck me as interesting.

Hong Kong and Singapore are both MAJOR financial centers. Have you seen the new Bank of China in HK? Shaped like bamboo thingy? Plus Singapoe is an IT Center and both Hong Kong and Singapore have a very high proportion of scientists in their country.

They don't produce any physical goods, but they produce a lot of very important services.

The only physical goods the Swiss produce are knives and pistols and cheese, but their banking and scientific centers are likewise very important.
Aadjunckistan
29-09-2003, 00:57
If that's what it means, I want to know what public facilities discriminate against gays. I don't support anyone trotting around in whatever bathroom they feel like being in at the moment. Also, by not discriminating against gays in public, would that follow with discrimination against the boy scouts in public? I wouldn't be for that either.

Huh? The boy scouts should admit gays if they are a public organization...

If we are talking US Boy Scouts here, then they have clearly stated in court that they are a private religious organisation rather than a public organisation.
The Global Market
29-09-2003, 00:57
If that's what it means, I want to know what public facilities discriminate against gays. I don't support anyone trotting around in whatever bathroom they feel like being in at the moment. Also, by not discriminating against gays in public, would that follow with discrimination against the boy scouts in public? I wouldn't be for that either.

Huh? The boy scouts should admit gays if they are a public organization...

If we are talking US Boy Scouts here, then they have clearly stated in court that they are a private religious organisation rather than a public organisation.

Then they shouldnt GET PUBLIC FUNDING!!
29-09-2003, 01:08
Then they shouldnt GET PUBLIC FUNDING!!

You'd think someone would have figured that out by now eh? Or take those private schools and Catholic schools - if the government didn't pay them they'd all die long ago and good riddance - at least here - but no, tehy pay them and they push their agendas. Dumb dumb dumb.
29-09-2003, 08:16
:oops: :x
ISLE OF ORLEANS CONSENSUAL MEDIA SERIAL FORMED IN WAKE OF FACT-LESS REPORTAGE ABOUT ALREADY-PASSED UN RESOLUTION

The Emirate of the Isle of Orleans earlier today sacked its state media arm and has launched its "Consensual Media Serial", in the wake of reportage that took serious concerns about Hetrosexism and Sexual Orientation and parlayed them into a report that the United Nations had yet passed a "Gay Rights" resolution.

While state media chair Clancy DuBlows was praised for underscoring the Emirate's sentiments about this important matter, DuBlows was sacked for not fact checking and making up news items.

DuBlows, a veteran commentator, was still a bit fluxxomed after sojourning with the rest of the Isle to Key West. He said he was peaved that "I had to stop and have this (G)ay holiday the week before the Louisiana Governors' race, which is slated for October 4th.

While the Honorable Emirate sacked DuBlows, s/he did allow DuBlows use of Emirate-supplied transport to help the people of Louisiana come to grips "out of the sheer boredom" of the Governor's contest, the Emirate's office said through spokesperson Candi Edwards. "With my husband locked up in a Texas feral prison," said Edwards (whom the Emirate has granted special refugee status and a job as "Special Minister to the State of Louisiana" until her husband finishes his sentence in just under nine years for racketeering and casinoing), the Governor's race needs all the help it can get. DuBlows should have been left behind to do his real work."

United Nations expert Sir Wolfish alerted the Honorable Emirate of the oversight, saying that The United Nations already enforces Gay rights and liberties in all UN-Member nations.

The Consensual Media Serial is under formation through the remainder of the month, with ribbon-cutting ceremonies expected to be held in two weeks.