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Request for Authorization of Sanctions against Isochronous

Goobergunchia
26-09-2003, 00:53
I'm gay.

I enjoy fantasising about gay sex; I look at porn, have gay cyber and plan to loose my virginity soon to another male. And I have ALWAYS felt the way I do about my sexuality.

I have never felt there is something 'un-natural' about the way I am and I have never believed those who do. I'm deeply offended by anybody who imagines that I am a sexual 'deviant' a 'paedophile' or do no not have the right to raise a child with another man. One day I’m going to get married too - and there is nothing you can say to stop me.

I would like to here your arguments about why gay marriage is moral corrupt. In the end I’ve decided there are only three things that stop 90% of men from having gay relations [aka: sex]
] They’re afraid it will hurt. Grow up boys! Do you really imagine it feels any better for the preachers’ wife when she gets it done doggy style? Gay sex is more then ‘taking it like a man’ so to speak. It’s about being sensitive, gentle and experiencing an intimacy only men can have [besides the colon is a g-spot]
2] That they’ll be laughed at for being ‘less then adequate’ again – deal with it. It takes all sorts and if that ever happens to you then the person laughing isn’t worth your lovemaking.
3] That some one will find out. And this is probably the biggest – the social conditioning, the passive-aggressive sexual energy from home, their friends. Most men are afraid to experience their full sexuality because it will trap them as being a ‘poofter’.

*sorry this is a bit off topic but I just had to get it off my chest.
Eew!

And Wolfish, I defy that pathetic law. The UN is an organisation of airy fairies, by airy fairies for airy fairies.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74446&start=20

Isochronous is in violation of the UN rules and holds our entire organization in contempt. For this, we ask the United Nations to authorize a blockade of Isochronous until this nation may come into compliance with all UN resolutions.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate

Request Authorized By:
Lord Goobergunch, Goobergunchian President
With the Concurrence of the Gunchenjuris
The Global Market
26-09-2003, 00:55
No. My country believes in free trade no matter what (except in war, but we haven't had to fight any of those yet).
Kisnesia
26-09-2003, 01:50
Besides the obvious ramifications to free trade, a ban would also constitute supression of freedom of speech. However, this is not an approval of Isochronous's words.

EDIT: We see what you were talking about now, after re-reading the other thread.

We will note that recently, a Game Mod said that since repeals of UN proposals were not allowed, that a nation could choose to ignore the UN resolution.

We will oppose such a ban.
26-09-2003, 01:54
The Government of the Republic of Sparkinia agrees. Isochronus is threatening to violate the Wolfish Convention on POWs, and definitely seems to hold the UN in general in contempt.

Sincerely,
The President of the Republic of Sparkinia
Oppressed Possums
26-09-2003, 04:42
So.... in the name of the UN, are we going to wipe them from the face of the planet?
Goobergunchia
26-09-2003, 22:32
So.... in the name of the UN, are we going to wipe them from the face of the planet?

No. Sanctions must come first.

And I'm leaving this question open until Sunday, then action (if authorized) will be taken.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate
Wolfish
26-09-2003, 22:58
Wolfish is currently occupied with the Tuttsville Slave War - however, we support this effort. If needed Protectorate States of Wolfish could be called upon.
27-09-2003, 02:08
TYB has no military presence, except for self-defense purposes. Therefore, we cannot join your blockade. However, we stongly condemn Isochronous' statement, and thus we are cutting off relations of any kind with them.

- Prime Minister Freeley
Oppressed Possums
27-09-2003, 19:01
So.... in the name of the UN, are we going to wipe them from the face of the planet?

No. Sanctions must come first.

And I'm leaving this question open until Sunday, then action (if authorized) will be taken.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate

So, who gets to keep the land?
Qaaolchoura
28-09-2003, 00:04
We will note that recently, a Game Mod said that since repeals of UN proposals were not allowed, that a nation could choose to ignore the UN resolution.

Good, because I have been ignoring the metric proposal anywhen.
Kisnesia
28-09-2003, 00:05
We will note that recently, a Game Mod said that since repeals of UN proposals were not allowed, that a nation could choose to ignore the UN resolution.

Good, because I have been ignoring the metric proposal anywhen.

Well, the only problem is that according to the UN FAQ, we can't do that....
Qaaolchoura
28-09-2003, 01:02
Well, the only problem is that according to the UN FAQ, we can't do that....
Oh, we can. . .

I solved it by renaming the Qaaolchouraav base 12 system "the metric system" :twisted:
Tisonica
28-09-2003, 01:40
So we're going to sanction him for lying?

I lie all the time, I didn't realize it was such a big deal...
Goobergunchia
28-09-2003, 18:31
We will note that recently, a Game Mod said that since repeals of UN proposals were not allowed, that a nation could choose to ignore the UN resolution.

1. Do you have a link?

2. The FAQ says that all UN members must obey UN resolutions. The FAQ trumps even Game Mods IMHO.
Kurdestan
28-09-2003, 19:04
Isochronous should be ejected from the United Nations for their contempt. Sanctions should not be imposed because the misbehavior of a few diplomats do not justify the death of millions.
28-09-2003, 19:05
2. The FAQ says that all UN members must obey UN resolutions. The FAQ trumps even Game Mods IMHO.

How exactly do i follow the "Right to free education bill" or the "Replanting Trees" bill? I don't see an option with "Plant Tree" on it, same as i don't see one "cutting trees down". It is impossible in a hell of a lot of cases to follow the UN resolutions to the letter, if you wish to try and follow them as best as you can then thats your funeral.

Blackley
Kisnesia
28-09-2003, 19:16
We will note that recently, a Game Mod said that since repeals of UN proposals were not allowed, that a nation could choose to ignore the UN resolution.

1. Do you have a link?

2. The FAQ says that all UN members must obey UN resolutions. The FAQ trumps even Game Mods IMHO.

1. Link: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71452
Go to page 2, it should be the first quote on the page.

2. I agree that the FAQ overrides the Game Mods, but if the Game Mods say that there is no way to change the UN's mind on a resolution, then Kisnesia will object to punishing a nation that cannot at least attempt to change the UN.

Kisnesia is considering a fillibuster of the UN Chamber if such action is close to a vote. However, we will not object to a resolution that simply chastizes Isochronous for failure to comply, and gives them a deadline to comply by.

Should this deadline pass, we will support the removal of Isochronous from the UN. (No, we aren't going to pull a France).
Tisonica
28-09-2003, 19:24
We will note that recently, a Game Mod said that since repeals of UN proposals were not allowed, that a nation could choose to ignore the UN resolution.

1. Do you have a link?

2. The FAQ says that all UN members must obey UN resolutions. The FAQ trumps even Game Mods IMHO.

1. Link: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71452
Go to page 2, it should be the first quote on the page.

2. I agree that the FAQ overrides the Game Mods, but if the Game Mods say that there is no way to change the UN's mind on a resolution, then Kisnesia will object to punishing a nation that cannot at least attempt to change the UN.

Kisnesia is considering a fillibuster of the UN Chamber if such action is close to a vote. However, we will not object to a resolution that simply chastizes Isochronous for failure to comply, and gives them a deadline to comply by.

Should this deadline pass, we will support the removal of Isochronous from the UN. (No, we aren't going to pull a France).

Nuety says alot of things, I think he may have got bored or something and wanted to mess up the UN, I dunnno. But not long after he was quick;y proven wrong, and he did not say that you could, he said he saw nothing wrong with it. That was HIS opinion, not an official ruling.
Kisnesia
28-09-2003, 19:47
We will note that recently, a Game Mod said that since repeals of UN proposals were not allowed, that a nation could choose to ignore the UN resolution.

1. Do you have a link?

2. The FAQ says that all UN members must obey UN resolutions. The FAQ trumps even Game Mods IMHO.

1. Link: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71452
Go to page 2, it should be the first quote on the page.

2. I agree that the FAQ overrides the Game Mods, but if the Game Mods say that there is no way to change the UN's mind on a resolution, then Kisnesia will object to punishing a nation that cannot at least attempt to change the UN.

Kisnesia is considering a fillibuster of the UN Chamber if such action is close to a vote. However, we will not object to a resolution that simply chastizes Isochronous for failure to comply, and gives them a deadline to comply by.

Should this deadline pass, we will support the removal of Isochronous from the UN. (No, we aren't going to pull a France).

Nuety says alot of things, I think he may have got bored or something and wanted to mess up the UN, I dunnno. But not long after he was quick;y proven wrong, and he did not say that you could, he said he saw nothing wrong with it. That was HIS opinion, not an official ruling.

Due to the inabillity of the UN to override itself, Kisnesia will still oppose this action. We wish to hear from the representative from Isochronous. A telegram has been sent, and we will request that all nations respect while they present their case.

A fillibuster has been introduced to prevent a vote being taken on this explusion.

EDIT: We have given Isochronous 24 RL hours to present his case to the UN General Assembly, after which case we will no longer block a vote on his removal.
Kisnesia
29-09-2003, 23:00
Due to lack of a response, we have withdrawn our fillibuster and will allow a vote to go forward.

Kisnesia will abstain.