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We of Drakosovar have a number of issues with the Grand Duchy of Poskrebyshev, specifically relating to the brutal acts carried out in their name as they sought regional delegacy (is that a word?) in the Pacific.
We feel that our national sovereignty has been attacked and we seek recompense.
We are hereby appealing to the United Nations to sanction our pre-emptive police action against Poskrebyshev, an action that we assure you will involve minimal loss of life (on our side) and is essential to our envisaged road map to peace.
If you have any doubts about whether the UN should back this then know this. We are convinced that Poskrebyshev harbours weapons of mass destruction - our intelligence sources are extremely reliable although we would decline to name them at this time.
It is imperative that the United Nations acts to stop this rogue before the chaos it causes spills out to other regions.
If we receive your blessing then we can assure you our nuclear hand-grenade wielding winged monkeys will carry out this police action with minimal casualties (to Drakosovar) and we will also be happy to supervise the new regime until the country has been, er, stabilised, yes, stabilised that's a good word, not stripped of all assets, no way, no siree.
Drakos, Leader of the Dept. of Military Negotiation and Monkey Handling, Drakosovar.
'If it's good enough for the US it's good enough for us...'

If you have any doubts about whether the UN should back this then know this. We are convinced that Poskrebyshev harbours weapons of mass destruction - our intelligence sources are extremely reliable although we would decline to name them at this time.
It is imperative that the United Nations acts to stop this rogue before the chaos it causes spills out to other regions.

Any specific details? I can understand why you don't want to reveal sources, but you're being too vague right now. I do sympathise with you, however: Poskrebyshev is no friend of Goobergunchia.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate

[ooc: You might want to put a poll in this post...]

There's never a good excuse for war, no matter how unjust you believe the nation to be. We instead suggest that you seek to solve this conflict peacefully and avoid brutal, dangerous conflict. Remember that many innocent lives hang in the balance.

President Jan Horembolg

Details of weapons, hmm, yes. We definitely have those. Absolutely, we're sure they can attack nations in, oh, let's say 45 minutes. Yes that sounds good, Poskrebyshev can cause total nuclear annihilation of the planet in 45 minutes!! Look here's a report we just typed, sorry obtained from a high ranking source that verifies all our claims.
Tell you what, why don't you sanction our pre-emptive police action (to address Yshurak, we stress this is not a war, merely an enforcement of our civil liberties with maximum force) and we'll send some experts to Poskrebyshev and they will find the weapons. Obviously in order to send the experts in we will have to bomb the hell out of the country first to ensure the safety of our citizens. We are confident you will understand.
Remember those weapons are really there. Honest injun.
Drakos, Head of the Deparment of Secrecy and Fictional Intelligence, Drakosovar.
'If it's good enough for the United States, it's good enough for us'

Since a certain other nation got away with it, I can't see a reason to ban it now. The Rogue Nations of Rabid Liberals feels that you can go and nuke the place off the face of the earth, for all it will affect us.

I do believe this is a satire of the US's war in Iraq...if so, well done!

If not, I just feel sorry for you...

Anywho...I cannot approve of this until you disclose full details.

The people of Nevermoore do not care whom you choose to make war on as long as we are not involved. So do whatever you like, your will is your own... unless the UN passes a resolution against that too.

Nevermoore's Ambassador to the United Nations:
Emelia Hearting

[ooc: You're doing an awful imitation, but it is still humorous at least.]

Tell you what, why don't you sanction our pre-emptive police action (to address Yshurak, we stress this is not a war, merely an enforcement of our civil liberties with maximum force)

You just said it was a war... in the proposal title! We do not approve... we do not approve at all.

President Jan Horembolg

Stephistan is unable to sanction this action for many reasons. To name just a few.

It is very easy to say you have intelligence that they posses WMD, but decline to name the source or provide UN members with any evidence of this what so ever other then "Take our word for it" this is a slippery slope that I've seen before that turned out to be a lie to further a nations agenda!

Second, while war is never a good way to solve any problems it is understood that it is some times unavoidable, however Stephistan will not support a pre-emptive strike. There has been nothing offered as evidence that Poskrebyshev posses any threat to your nation.

For these reasons I can not and will not support your action.

Peace,
Stephanie
President of Stephistan
U.N. Delegate of Role Play University.

Don't mess with our trade, profits or people and we at Carpage don't give a whale's tail what you do. As neither our trade, profits or people have anything to do with either of your nations, fight away.
We will happily offer war loans, however.

Jesse Robinson
Senior Accountant
Carpage Inc.

There's never a good excuse for war, no matter how unjust you believe the nation to be. We instead suggest that you seek to solve this conflict peacefully and avoid brutal, dangerous conflict. Remember that many innocent lives hang in the balance.

President Jan Horembolg

--Edited By Nation States Moderator--

Thank you to those who are offering to support us. To those who doubt our words - this is outrageous! Poskrebyshev has banned our nation from the Pacific without disclosing why. This is a clear assault on our nation's sovereignty. We can only assume therefore that it is a precursor to military action by a dangerous rogue state consequently it is imperative the UN acts to stop them before they unleash terror on the world. And if you think about it that way it appears that our police action isn't even pre-emptive!
Proof that Poskrebyshev has weapons of mass destruction will be forthcoming, the final draft of a statement on the matter is being sexed up, sorry verified as we speak, and hopefully by tomorrow there should be no doubt in your minds as to the danger they pose.
However we would remind our fellow UN members that in this world 24 hours is a long, long time. Time enough for Poskrebyshev to begin a campaign of violence. Do you really want to allow this rogue nation to carry out its evil agenda while you sit and twiddle your thumbs?
Even worse than this some nations are implying that we lie to further our own agenda. This is simply not true and it is this kind of empty rhetoric that will ultimately cost lives.
Allow this police action to proceed, you know it makes sense.
Drakos, Chief Lawyer in the Department of Easy Lies and Cheap Political Propaganda, Drakosovar

Proof has been obtained. Here is a taster of what tomorrow's report will say.

Report complied by the Ministry of Intelligence and Political Misinformation Drakosovar.

Recent intelligence gathering efforts in Poskrebyshev has indicated that the country is a haven for criminals of all kinds. There is good reason to believe that terrorism is included amongst these criminal activities. Our analysts estimate a 99% probabilitythat terrorism is rife in this country.
Concerningly we note that much of this appears to be anti-Yshurak and anti-Stephistan feeling and there appears to be active plans to launch an assualt on these nations.
We feel it is our duty to pass on this intelligence to our UN colleagues and allow them to take action appropriately.

Drakos, Head of Espionage and Fictional Reporting, Drakosovar

There's never a good excuse for war, no matter how unjust you believe the nation to be. We instead suggest that you seek to solve this conflict peacefully and avoid brutal, dangerous conflict. Remember that many innocent lives hang in the balance.

President Jan Horembolg

Typical leftist tree-hugging airy fairy.

OOC: You're point?

IC: We, the Free Land of Tipayimisoowin, were unaware that fairies existed, and openly welcome any fairies, tree-hugging, airy, or otherwise, to our great nation.

As for the pre-emptive strikes, at this point in time, unless there is a drastic change in the circumstances, we will not be endorsing Drakosovar's actions. We have no objection to Drakosovar building up it's defences, but will not condone any offensive action at this time. While we do not mean to infer that the leaders and intelligence specialists of Drakosovar are corrupt, we have concerns as to the validity of the Intelligence reports.

Respectfully,
The FLOT

Having some knowledge of the extent of the damage the Grand Duchy of Poskrebyshev has done, and being a fellow Pacific nation, I will support this war and argue in your favor. Although I cannot send military aid, being a resident of the West Pacific, I will still pledge any kind of economic support possible.

There's never a good excuse for war, no matter how unjust you believe the nation to be. We instead suggest that you seek to solve this conflict peacefully and avoid brutal, dangerous conflict. Remember that many innocent lives hang in the balance.

President Jan Horembolg

Edit.

modalert

Until any action has been taken against your country or government, the government of the Republic of Sparkinia cannot support your action. We do not support bullies who will not reveal the extent or source of their intelligence.

Sincerely,
The President of the Republic of Sparkinia

Drakosovar, it is within rules for a Delegate* to ban nations for political reasons.

Any "war declaration" that you issue is merely roleplay, and Poskrebyshev is not required to participate in your roleplay or to respond to you at all. Hence, appealing to the United Nations is completely pointless.

If you want to have Poskrebyshev removed, then you will have to participate in a legal invasion to replace him.

* Here, I am not talking about invader Delegates; the rules are stricter for invader Delegates. Regional invasion is the practice of entering a region with many UN member nations and endorsing each other so that one of the invaders becomes Delegate. Poskrebyshev is not an invader Delegate.

Typical leftist tree-hugging airy fairy.

This is flaming (that is, insulting a person). Flaming is not permitted on these forums.

Understood?

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Forum Moderator

Recent intelligence gathering efforts in Poskrebyshev has indicated that the country is a haven for criminals of all kinds. There is good reason to believe that terrorism is included amongst these criminal activities. Our analysts estimate a 99% probabilitythat terrorism is rife in this country.
Concerningly we note that much of this appears to be anti-Yshurak and anti-Stephistan feeling and there appears to be active plans to launch an assualt on these nations.

You're certainly jesting, dear sir. Yshurak, as a peaceful nation, has never done anything to warrant even the idea of terrorism towards it. We suspect possible tampering and propaganda on your government's part on this information. There will be no approval from Yshurak.

President Jan Horembolg

Provide the booze and I know some volunteers.

OOC - To Cogitation - do I really need to spell this out? I KNOW this is roleplay. As I explained another thread in the real world nations go to war with one another and if those nations are UN members then they ask if the UN will support them first. Hence this. I'm not sure why you keep reiterating the point that Poskrebyshev may not respond so this is pointless - I couldn't care less if he responds or not, my aim is a thinly veiled satire on US foreign policy and that's it. Also when I discussed this on the mods thread Stephistan thought that properly phrased this is an entirely legitimate use of the UN forum. Finally yes, I am well aware of the political means of ousting him - that would require telegramming something like 150 nations, I don't have either the time or inclination.

Back to the plot

As promised we of Drakosovar have now compiled our report on Poskrebyshev's weaponry. Chief Inspector Gibbon of the Drakosovan Arms Inspection Delegation writes - Following analysis of satellite photography and limited intelligence reports from within Poskrebyshev's military we conclude there is no evidence of Weapons of Mass Destruction within Poskrebyshev's borders. A war would be unjustified at this time and could result in destabilisation of the region and cause a humanitarian disaster.
We in Drakosovar have had Chief Inspector Gibbon's report analysed by our Dept of Infinite Monkeys in a Room Typing - they concluded that 'given the above analysis we estimate with 100% accuracy that Poskrebyshev is CONCEALING his weapons of mass destruction from the inspectorate. Such an act is that of a rogue nation and the only possible reason there could be for non-cooperation is to sell the weapons to other terrorist groups, possibly groups he has already banned from his own country. Therefore it is the opinion of this Department that not only is war justified it is essential to prevent further atrocities carried out by Poskrebyshev.'
Obviously the ruling council of Drakosovar is dismayed that such an extreme action as war has been made necessary by this report. We assure the UN we will take every step to minimise casualties in Poskrebyshev and will return the nation to control of their own people as soon as we can.
Thank you for your help.
Drakos, General and Lord High Monkeytrainer of the Ever Ready Invading Simian Hordes of Drakosovar