NationStates Jolt Archive


Help the Poor!

23-09-2003, 11:48
Hi! Check out my new "Feed the Poor" proposal.

Thanks.

The Rebels
23-09-2003, 12:12
how bout feed your poor people damn its like starvation in ur nation there
Oppressed Possums
23-09-2003, 19:32
We eat the poor...
Nevermoore
23-09-2003, 21:38
If the poor want food they can get a JOB. If their current job is not paying enough then they have the freedom to find another one. This proposal would be an unneeded burden upon our people and a black hole in our budget. We encourage other nations to oppose this proposal as well.

Nevermoore's Ambassador to the United Nations:
Emelia Hearting
The Global Market
23-09-2003, 21:44
This will be formally codified in teh Bill of No Rights.
23-09-2003, 23:44
More people SHOULD help the poor, they can't always get jobs so they need to be helped.
23-09-2003, 23:47
And that justifies stealing from the people who CAN take care of themselves because...
The Global Market
23-09-2003, 23:48
Hi! Check out my new "Feed the Poor" proposal.

Thanks.

The Rebels

First of all, your proposal wants us all to cut our space programs.

The dinosaurs died out because they didn't have a space program. From the species perspective, the space program is of extreme importance.

And as I posted earlier in Aviea's thread:

Starvation does NOT happen because of lack of food, it happens because of political systems that are dictatorship or anarchy.

Case in point: Africa. In the 1990s, Botswana, which is run by a responsible democratic government, suffered a 33% decline in food production and had completely empty national granariers, yet there was no famine. Whereas in Chad and Somalia, food production only decreased 5% yet this was enough to cause mass starvation.

Historically, no period of mass starvation in Europe or China coincided with food shortages. During the Ming Dynasty, China experienced four major food shortages that were enough to cause mass starvation, yet none of these four actually caused starvation. Whereas, during Mao Ze Dong's Great Leap Forward, food production actually increased, but 40 million people starved to death anyways.

Giving more food to teh third world won't help starvation. Just look at how well our aid worked in Somalia or Bangladesh.

And...

I volunteer at a soup kitchen... last week 6-oz Sirloin Steak, really good Baked Potatoes cooked with Olive Oil, Fresh Salads, Orange Juice, etc.

This is better than what most middle-class Americans eat and certainly better than what people in teh third-world get. We don't need any government "food aid". What hte government should do is cut agricultural subsidies... this will lower prices in the supermarket by an estimated $10-$20 billion per year.
24-09-2003, 01:49
We do need to feed the really poor people of third world nations of NationStates but never help those that are making biological weapons of terror or nuclear weapons of mass destruction.

I will support that bill.