NationStates Jolt Archive


Issues held against the Cato Resolution

21-09-2003, 18:23
The issues on which the citizens of my country have voiced concern about are Article VII and article VIII. The armed forces are a necessity in todays world. Certain nations must forcibly develop these services so as to have enough to defend themselves. Additionally, the right to move a business from which a country was founded could take out the pillars of smaller nations economies. The legislation in conflict being null and void is also much to vague for the liking of my citizens. If the resolution were amended as mentioned above, it would have the vote of Haxxor Piracy.
The Global Market
21-09-2003, 18:33
The issues on which the citizens of my country have voiced concern about are Article VII and article VIII. The armed forces are a necessity in todays world. Certain nations must forcibly develop these services so as to have enough to defend themselves. Additionally, the right to move a business from which a country was founded could take out the pillars of smaller nations economies. The legislation in conflict being null and void is also much to vague for the liking of my citizens. If the resolution were amended as mentioned above, it would have the vote of Haxxor Piracy.

First off, you don't need large armies today. Look at the United States war on Iraq. Iraq suffered 500 times our losses despite outnumbering us 2-1. Technology matters far more than numbers in today's world. None of the strongest militaries in the world have an active draft. In addition, most wars today are fought by small numbers of gurellia troops... because the sheer level of death and destruction caused by widespread war is enough to effectively secure against two large powerful countries from going to war with one another, as it would lead to Mutually Assured Destruction.

As for Article VIII, you have the right to prevent businesses from coming into your countries in the first place. If you want them to come, be nice to them! It's their material, they have the right to do what they want with it.
23-09-2003, 00:59
Perhaps you misunderstand... The issue against businesses moving out of smaller nations (such as Haxxor Piracy) could be a significant part of the economy. By unlimiting business, you would allow them to leave the nations to which they would serve a greater cause. Additionally, the military issue is just a way for your nation to hold other nations from achieving their military potential because your nation dominates the others in population.
The Global Market
23-09-2003, 01:02
Perhaps you misunderstand... The issue against businesses moving out of smaller nations (such as Haxxor Piracy) could be a significant part of the economy. By unlimiting business, you would allow them to leave the nations to which they would serve a greater cause. Additionally, the military issue is just a way for your nation to hold other nations from achieving their military potential because your nation dominates the others in population.

The business has no obligation to invest in your country in the first place.
23-09-2003, 01:04
My nations businesses started here, weined off of the government until they were strong enough to thrive on its own. But now you suggest that it can just pick up and leave its fostering nation so that a larger market can benefit your nation?
23-09-2003, 01:08
The issues on which the citizens of my country have voiced concern about are Article VII and article VIII. The armed forces are a necessity in todays world. Certain nations must forcibly develop these services so as to have enough to defend themselves. Additionally, the right to move a business from which a country was founded could take out the pillars of smaller nations economies. The legislation in conflict being null and void is also much to vague for the liking of my citizens. If the resolution were amended as mentioned above, it would have the vote of Haxxor Piracy.

First off, you don't need large armies today. Look at the United States war on Iraq. Iraq suffered 500 times our losses despite outnumbering us 2-1. Technology matters far more than numbers in today's world. None of the strongest militaries in the world have an active draft. In addition, most wars today are fought by small numbers of gurellia troops... because the sheer level of death and destruction caused by widespread war is enough to effectively secure against two large powerful countries from going to war with one another, as it would lead to Mutually Assured Destruction.

As for Article VIII, you have the right to prevent businesses from coming into your countries in the first place. If you want them to come, be nice to them! It's their material, they have the right to do what they want with it.

And if you are facing an army with an equal or greater technology level?
23-09-2003, 01:30
The Holy Empire of Crazed Moogles is firm in it's belief that the Business here are unique and of our own culture. The foriegn influences of the emigration of these businesses and other could warp and push the country's culture in ways that we really would not like to test. I am not saying in any way that my country is better culturally that another's, simply that it is unique and of it's own
The Global Market
23-09-2003, 01:48
The issues on which the citizens of my country have voiced concern about are Article VII and article VIII. The armed forces are a necessity in todays world. Certain nations must forcibly develop these services so as to have enough to defend themselves. Additionally, the right to move a business from which a country was founded could take out the pillars of smaller nations economies. The legislation in conflict being null and void is also much to vague for the liking of my citizens. If the resolution were amended as mentioned above, it would have the vote of Haxxor Piracy.

First off, you don't need large armies today. Look at the United States war on Iraq. Iraq suffered 500 times our losses despite outnumbering us 2-1. Technology matters far more than numbers in today's world. None of the strongest militaries in the world have an active draft. In addition, most wars today are fought by small numbers of gurellia troops... because the sheer level of death and destruction caused by widespread war is enough to effectively secure against two large powerful countries from going to war with one another, as it would lead to Mutually Assured Destruction.

As for Article VIII, you have the right to prevent businesses from coming into your countries in the first place. If you want them to come, be nice to them! It's their material, they have the right to do what they want with it.

And if you are facing an army with an equal or greater technology level?

Then there are two possibilities:

Iraq vs. Iran: Eventually your economy collapses, and you die.
[Theoretical USA vs. Other First-Rate Power]: You nuke each other, and everyone on Earth dies.