NationStates Jolt Archive

Free Medical Training Proposal

Being as the world is short of the much needed educated medical personnel, it would be to the boon of the international community at large and the individual nations in particular for there to be complimentary medical training along all levels of advancement.

Any individual from any nation who wishes to train him or herself in the medical field should be able to do so free of charge. In return for this subsidy, they must pledge a certain amount of working time after their training is complete.

CPR/First Aid Training should be taught to anyone willing to learn with no necessary pledge for future service.
Full subsidy for EMT training should come out to 18 months of pledged time to working as an Emergency Medical Technician.
Paramedic training is to pledge three years of service.
Nursing training is to pledge six years service.
Cost of training will be proportional to pledged service time. With the maximum time for pledged service to not exceed 20 years. MD training, for example, need only pledge an amount of 20 years service.

Individuals may work longer than the pledged time, but they are not required to.

This will help put more trained medical personnel per capita and keep the citizens of every nation healthier and better for it.

good idea! who is funding this program?

The individual states. Members of the UN will subsidize medical training within their own borders.

What if, as a moral nation, we don't want to do this?

Then you run the risk of having a national health system that is not prepared to care for your people. Poor people can make just as good doctors a rich people, but there aren't always enough rich people who want to be doctors in a nation. Subsidizing medical education assures your people a system that will keep them healthy.

This is a good and worthwhile proposal that will enable nations to train nurses and doctors in order to help the sick and weak.

Catholic Europe supports it!

Thanks for the support. Let us make for a healthier world. :D

Then you run the risk of having a national health system that is not prepared to care for your people. Poor people can make just as good doctors a rich people, but there aren't always enough rich people who want to be doctors in a nation. Subsidizing medical education assures your people a system that will keep them healthy.

You have failed to explain how that justifies theft or slavery.

Thanks for the support. Let us make for a healthier world. :D

What support? Theft or slavery is wrong, you know. A desirable result does NOT justify it.

"Theft or slavery is wrong, you know. A desirable result does NOT justify it."

What theft and slavery are you referring to?

The theft and slavery that would be necessary to subsidize basic medical training for everyone who wanted it.

"The theft and slavery that would be necessary to subsidize basic medical training for everyone who wanted it."

What are you talking about? Theft from whom and slavery of whom?

You want me to subsidize basic medical training in my country, right?

That training is going to have to come from somewhere, right?

If I can't find people willing to do the training or pay for the costs involved voluntary, I'm going to have to enslave and steal from people to do it, right?

"If I can't find people willing to do the training or pay for the costs involved voluntary, I'm going to have to enslave and steal from people to do it, right?"

Part of the training involved can be how to train others. The time pledged by those who gain from the program will be partially used to train others. No stealing or slavery necessary.

Regular taxes will be enough to pay for the program. The total cost per taxpaying citizen will actually be less because they will pay less for medical coverage.

I think that free training is a bit extreme. Incentives, such as helping to pay for tuition in exchange for agreeing to practice medicine in a certain underserviced area, seems like a more practical solution.

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I think that free training is a bit extreme. Incentives, such as helping to pay for tuition in exchange for agreeing to practice medicine in a certain underserviced area, seems like a more practical solution.

Perhaps, I may consider revising.

Thanks for the quoting tip, btw. :D

I think that free training is a bit extreme. Incentives, such as helping to pay for tuition in exchange for agreeing to practice medicine in a certain underserviced area, seems like a more practical solution.

Perhaps, I may consider revising.

Thanks for the quoting tip, btw. :D

np :)

And I know that there are incentives like this in the real world, for the nothern parts of Ontario, where there is a large need for doctors.

"If I can't find people willing to do the training or pay for the costs involved voluntary, I'm going to have to enslave and steal from people to do it, right?"

Part of the training involved can be how to train others. The time pledged by those who gain from the program will be partially used to train others. No stealing or slavery necessary.
But who will do the initial training?

Regular taxes will be enough to pay for the program. The total cost per taxpaying citizen will actually be less because they will pay less for medical coverage.

Exactly--and since we're a moral nation, we don't steal from people, meaning we have no taxes. So what do we do?

But who will do the initial training?

I'm sure you must have channels through which people learned these skills even before such a program was emplaced. They'll learn it through those channels and will be subsidized accordingly.

Exactly--and since we're a moral nation, we don't steal from people, meaning we have no taxes. So what do we do?

Well, how does your government pay for any of the things it does? It can pay for this program with cash from similar routes. It is really not that much of an expensive proposition. Especially when you are considering the health of your population.

The Workers of Calapooya enthusiastically support the establishment of a system of free medical training as outlined in this proposal. As the bastion of worker's rights in the Western Pacific we are happy to lend our superior know how and organization to this effort. The mass action of the workers can accomplish great things in this arena.
Free the medical system from the grasp of the robbers! Workers of the world unite for health and freedom!