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If you are a UN Delegate, and you are reading this, please reply to this thread...I want to see how many UN Delegates actually read the UN forum.

<---Democratic Underground delegate

Why? So you would have a list to spam with?

Just look at the list of votes for the Wolfish POW thinggee.

Why? So you would have a list to spam with?

Just look at the list of votes for the Wolfish POW thinggee.

WRONG. There are far easier ways to find out UN delegates than the vote. It's actually the reverse...I'm not going to waste time t-gramming delegates that read the forums and stay informed.

I want to see how many UN Delegates actually read the UN forum.

*read the forum but doesn't post a lot*

I will rule the forums or see them burnt to ashes around me!! :twisted:

I'm still not sure if this topic is spam...

...but as long as it's open, I'd like it to stay on-topic.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

yes i do read the forum and am active at it once a week or more.

what is the big deal about this discussion anyways?
un delegates slacking off? lmao

sounds to me this post belongs into the general category...

Of course you know I read the forums hehe :)

Peace,
Stephanie.

i read the forumns in spite of how ridiculous a lot of the topics are. i also usually check the proposals pretty regularly. i may stop doing it though as it takes a long time and i seldom find anything worth approving.

We *never* read anything in the forums...

Read? you actually accuse delagtes of beign able to read?

Read? you actually accuse delagtes of beign able to read?

[Emphasis mine.]

Reading!? :shock: What a scandalous accusation! :x Next thing you know, they'll be accusing Delegates of being able to spell! Or use proper capitalization! :!:

Why, the gall of them! :evil:

...

:lol:

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia

This sure isn't a ringing endorsement of how many delegates read the forum.. I think we rest our case.. I know I do!

Peace,
Stephanie.

Read? you actually accuse delagtes of beign able to read?

[Emphasis mine.]

Reading!? :shock: What a scandalous accusation! :x Next thing you know, they'll be accusing Delegates of being able to spell! Or use proper capitalization! :!:

Why, the gall of them! :evil:

...

:lol:

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia

yes. the nerve. capitalisation pshaw. has ee cummings taught you nothing? :)

This sure isn't a ringing endorsement of how many delegates read the forum.. I think we rest our case.. I know I do!

If your case were to be that something should be done to revitalize the interest in the UN as a legislative body, I would agree with you.

What is the case you're making here?

Ballotonia

Read the forum, but have decided to abstain to comment of late. Generally the increased influx of Communists complsining that Liberals dominate the UN. Even though I have spoken to only three other Liberl nations since joining.

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This sure isn't a ringing endorsement of how many delegates read the forum.. I think we rest our case.. I know I do!

If your case were to be that something should be done to revitalize the interest in the UN as a legislative body, I would agree with you.

What is the case you're making here?

Ballotonia

My case has become two tier. One, we need to lobby delegates via telegram because this should make it quite obvious that delegates don't read the forums.

Second (Thank You to TGM)

"The first thing to do is inspect the current UN resolution at vote (if there is one). If you agree, vote for it; if you don't, oppose it. Depending on how ardent you feel, you can also debate the issue in the forum, or wire telegrams to other nations."

Which you can argue till your blue in the face about what this means.. I just know what it says. It clearly says you CAN telegram other nations about UN resolutions.

I will be bringing this discussion up with all the mods and hopefully we will come to a resolution of our own. The mods are not all in agreement on this. As of right now there is no answer to the question, "can we or can't we" right now it's just every one giving their opinion. I imagine [violet] will be the final word on this and given it is in the FAQ, I suspect this should put the ball in our court who favour tg's for lobbying purposes.

Peace,
Stephanie.

My case has become two tier. One, we need to lobby delegates via telegram because this should make it quite obvious that delegates don't read the forums.

That's an attempt to force people into doing something they do not wish to do, instead of changing things so they are more likely to want to participate in the first place.

I predict that if officially allowed, these TMs will increase in number and annoy more and more people. Not into participating, but in having a (stronger) dislike of the UN.

Remember, honey versus vinegar...

Ballotonia

My case has become two tier. One, we need to lobby delegates via telegram because this should make it quite obvious that delegates don't read the forums.

That's an attempt to force people into doing something they do not wish to do, instead of changing things so they are more likely to want to participate in the first place.

I predict that if officially allowed, these TMs will increase in number and annoy more and more people. Not into participating, but in having a (stronger) dislike of the UN.

Remember, honey versus vinegar...

Ballotonia

I can understand your point..honestly...but there are many things in this game that are forced upon people. Such as invasions to name one. Yet, all perfectly legal and within the game.

I guess if some one could come up with a better way to reach the delegates that of course would be preferred, however I just don't see a better way.

I'm open to any suggestions you may have? I would most certainly take it to the rest of the mod-squad.

Peace,
Stephanie.

I'm in favor of a more technical solution.

Provide two buttons. One is "APPROVE" one is "DISAPPROVE".

To reach quorum,
APPROVE > DISAPPROVE
(APPROVE + DISAPPROVE) > 5%

This way, inactive Delegates are left out of the process.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia

I'm UN delegate of the Alliance of Democracy. Come join us, democratic ones.

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-President Z.D. Meier
Alliance of Democracy
U.N. Delegate

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:roll: Hey could you UN delegates out there take a look at my proposal:

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_proposal/start=60

Thanks :)

I'm in favor of a more technical solution.

Provide two buttons. One is "APPROVE" one is "DISAPPROVE".

To reach quorum,
APPROVE > DISAPPROVE
(APPROVE + DISAPPROVE) > 5%

This way, inactive Delegates are left out of the process.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia

Cog, you're not even a UN delegate..lol ;) I am only asking to be able to lobby UN delegates. Not all UN members. Which it actually clearly states in the FAQ you are allowed to do..

Peace,
Stephanie.

I'm in favor of a more technical solution.

Provide two buttons. One is "APPROVE" one is "DISAPPROVE".

To reach quorum,
APPROVE > DISAPPROVE
(APPROVE + DISAPPROVE) > 5%

This way, inactive Delegates are left out of the process.

Cog, you're not even a UN delegate..lol ;) I am only asking to be able to lobby UN delegates. Not all UN members. Which it actually clearly states in the FAQ you are allowed to do..

I used to be a Delegats. :wink:

Whether or not I am (or ever was) a Delegate is irrelevant; I still favor a coded solution.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia
Former Delegate of West Central Asia

teehee.... mod-squad....

I'm in favor of a more technical solution.

Provide two buttons. One is "APPROVE" one is "DISAPPROVE".

To reach quorum,
APPROVE > DISAPPROVE
(APPROVE + DISAPPROVE) > 5%

This way, inactive Delegates are left out of the process.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia

I support the general idea, but the specifics will mean that just about every resolution passes.

I'm in favor of there must be 1.5 or 2 approvals per disproval.

I'm in favour of keeping the options as they are, right now it works and there really is no reason to make it unessacarially complex. But, a 2/3 system would be better.

Some nice solutions going around, but ones that seem to make more work for the admin and Mods. If we go with the coded solution a la Cog, it means admin putting in some serious hours to toy with the code to put the proposal in place, while the other proposals of banning TG campaining (recently struck down by [violet] I see) leave the Mods with yet more policing to do, which probably explains why it was deemed legal.

(I'll declare now that I'm not in favour of it at all, and on advice from Neut, submitted a Mod-Help form on the issue before [violet] ruled on it., anyway the practice annoys me to say the least, especially scince the TGs don't back up their rhetoric when I TG them back asking about their proposal,,but that's a personal grivience)

With the failure of the two solutions above, there is room for a third with the minumin amount of work for admin, create a new thread (or even section of the forum) that Delegates can use to discuss stuff amongst themselves (Delegate exclusive model) or one in which it is the responsibility of the proposer to post the fact the they've put a proposal up for approval. Every 3 days someone'd have to clean out the old postings in order to keep the thread to a painless-to-check singled page, so Delegates don't have to wade through up to 20 pages as they do at the moment. Maybe a Delegate exclusive thread or even section, with a single thread to make proposals known would be even more efficient, not to mention helping people keep track of troublesome players/spammers/flamers, as delegates of regions could inform this thread and other delegates and/or mods could act.

Solve the issue through efficient communication, with the minumin stress for everyone involved.

The only problem remaining would is to make it known that the thread/section exists for use by the general proposing public.

Eli is delegate of the Capitalist Alliance. Our goal is to exploit you socialist libs so you have something to whine about and we can live in indolent luxury ignoring even your most basic needs. :lol:

I read the threads-Mental Monkeys UN delegate of Mental Home

I read the forum.

Check the dates, folks - Mental Monkeys has been doing some grave-digging, and this topic is five months old. Which is not to say it doesn't have some good ideas, it should just probably be restarted.

While we do not have delegate status as yet, that is about to change in our regional policy.

The delegates of New Eriu do read the forums and which more people would do the same before voting on critical issues to debate them rather than voting on 'gut instinct' etcetera.

I'd go through the proposals more often if the server wasn't so slow :P

My U.N puppet's delegate, i think a lot delegates don't read the U.N forum or any forum, they prefer talking on their own, if they have one, :)

I will rule the forums or see them burnt to ashes around me!! :twisted:

Well if you insist.

But if your planing on having a mass cremation of forums, let me know so I can be a bystander...and should I get burned alive accidentally, have someone film it...you know...for documentary reasons :roll: yeah...that's it.

If you are a UN Delegate, and you are reading this, please reply to this thread...I want to see how many UN Delegates actually read the UN forum.

<---Democratic Underground delegate

You know I'm always around :P

The kingdom of Ahearn reads the forum when its worthwhile, not when its nothing but fooling around. if we find something particularily amusing, Ahearn will most likely take part in the jest.

UNdelegates,
cheers

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