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The following is a UN proposal, "GreenPeace Are Terrorists"

Description: Whereas the ecological extremist organization known as "Greenpeace" commonly goes out of its way to assault and infringe upon the rights of law abiding fishermen, hunters, loggers, and countless others, and whereas they will not relent until such individuals are deprived of their life, liberty, and right to exist, be it hereby Resolved that GreenPeace is a terrorist organization.

Be it resolved that as a terrorist organization, all Greenpeace assets in UN member nations' banks shall be frozen, and that any attempt by Greenpeace activists to hinder or harm a laborer in the lawful conduct of their job shall be met with military force.

how stupid can Fantasan get?now taking bets :lol:

how stupid can Fantasan get?now taking bets :lol:

Simply disagreeing with you does not make someone stupid. Calling them stupid only erodes any illusion that you aren't.

No name calling please!

Stephanie
Forum Mod

how stupid can Fantasan get?now taking bets :lol:

Actually, on www.americanactionmarket.org, they are taking bets on how stupid the White House will look in the future.
Don't spoil the fun, Stepanistan! :D Poking fun at the right is a favourite hobby! :lol:

how stupid can Fantasan get?now taking bets :lol:

Actually, on www.americanactionmarket.org, they are taking bets on how stupid the White House will look in the future.
Don't spoil the fun, Stepanistan! :D Poking fun at the right is a favourite hobby! :lol:

Hey, I'm all for that... but just no personal attacks on actual NS players ok ..;)

Peace,
Stephanie.

The following is a UN proposal, "GreenPeace Are Terrorists"

Description: Whereas the ecological extremist organization known as "Greenpeace" commonly goes out of its way to assault and infringe upon the rights of law abiding fishermen, hunters, loggers, and countless others, and whereas they will not relent until such individuals are deprived of their life, liberty, and right to exist, be it hereby Resolved that GreenPeace is a terrorist organization.

Be it resolved that as a terrorist organization, all Greenpeace assets in UN member nations' banks shall be frozen, and that any attempt by Greenpeace activists to hinder or harm a laborer in the lawful conduct of their job shall be met with military force.

We, the FLOT, have come to the understanding that the nation of Fantasan has fabricated an organization, or used a dimension portal to bring it to NS from another dimension (namely, the real world). The loyal citizen of the Free Land of Tipayimisoowin have never heard of this so-called "GreenPeace" organizition, and therefore wonder if the leaders of Fantasan are trying to concoct an international ploy. The FLOT will remain on high alert as to any unusual activity coming from the Fantasan border.

Respectfully,
The FLOT

OOC: I fully support Greenpeace, for the most part. And just because something exists in the real world doesn't automatically mean that it exists in the NS world :)

Good Point!

Peace,
Stephanie.

Why thank you :)

Of course, the fact that Greenpeace was originally a Canadian organization had nothing to do with my ooc decision ;)

Why thank you :)

Of course, the fact that Greenpeace was originally a Canadian organization had nothing to do with my ooc decision ;)

Stephistan notes her maple leaf proudly on her backpack too! 8)

Peace,
Stephanie.

[ooc: I also support Greenpeace.]

The following is a UN proposal, "GreenPeace Are Terrorists"

Greenpeace are heros. ....so thats a "no" vote then....

Sorry, but I like the enviroment.

And there's also all that "lack of a NS Greenpeace" that everyone else brought up.

The UN yes men will pass it once we reach quorum. And no repealing.



OOC:
NS Greenpeace was controlled by Vulcanus...

The enviroment is cool and shit but hurting people for it really isn't randy

A... bizarre... and interesting proposal.... I wouldn't expect many to endorse it, however.

The following is a UN proposal, "GreenPeace Are Terrorists"

Greenpeace are heros. ....so thats a "no" vote then....

Greenpeace have done a lot of good in raising the public awareness of the environment, they are however far from a perfect organisation. Their disgusting behaviour, outright lies and the ensuing huge environmental damage caused through the Brent Spar incident are but one of several examples of this.

This is as others have said an issue for somewhere else not here.

With lots of love
Kelly
Today's spokesman for Nebbyland

We the People's Republic Of Amyth would support this proposal if the name "greenpeace", which we've never heard of, was replaced with the word "Animal Liberation Front". The alf organisation has conducted ongoing terrorist campaigns with in our country and even attempted to assisanate our glorious leaded, the right honourable, Prime Minister. This alf is an evil organisation which bombs our public meat markets, and nightclubs, and poisons our ranchers. We currently suppect they are behind a movement to cripple our cattle industry from within.

We thank you all for listening to our rant...

The animal liberation front must be dealt with. All because they may not agree with government policies on the treatment of animals, doesn't mean that they can conduct criminal acts and expect to get away with it. They behave live terrorist, thus they will be treated like terrorist. I will support this resolution so that we can erradicate this scumb.

But just so i understand - is this a resolution to declare this organisation a global terrorist organisation are you proposing a resolution on how to deal with them??

Environment is bad. It's sole existence is to be exploited by the United States of Oppressed Possums.

I think protecting the environment is important. Due to "selective" uranium mining, our lust forests were destroyed. That was a sad day. :cry:

I say, use terrorism on the terrorists!!

I say, use terrorism on the terrorists!!

I tried really hard to let that go...

Now look at what you've written and figure out why it's wrong in so many ways.

Terrorism is wrong, killing innocents is wrong, no matter what your justification it's not worth taking a life.

Peaceful civil disobedience can achieve a lot. It may take a while but you can get there.

Loads and loads of love
Kelly
Today's spokesman for Nebbyland

Environment is bad. It's sole existence is to be exploited by the United States of Oppressed Possums.

We the PROA contend that if you take care of the enviornment and treat it well, you can exploit it for a lot longer time before it leaves...

Our nation considers GreenPeace and all other real world/not real world groups to be terrorists.

When we capture them, we give them a fair trial and then shoot them in the morning.

We then send their families a bill for the bullet.

I hardly think that greenpeace are terrorists! They don't blow up people or smash planes into buildings do they, they don't intentionally kill people or strike terror into the general populace and so they are not terrorists.

I hardly think that greenpeace are terrorists! They don't blow up people or smash planes into buildings do they, they don't intentionally kill people or strike terror into the general populace and so they are not terrorists.

Not so sure abbout the last of those but I'll give you the majority of those. I agree they aren't in the same league as Al quaida or the real IRA, and if you look at some of the things that the person who suggested this has said you'll see that tehy're just tryingg to get a rise out of you.

Loadsa love
Kelly
Today's spokesman for Nebbyland

I hardly think that greenpeace are terrorists! They don't blow up people or smash planes into buildings do they, they don't intentionally kill people or strike terror into the general populace and so they are not terrorists.

Not so sure abbout the last of those but I'll give you the majority of those. I agree they aren't in the same league as Al quaida or the real IRA, and if you look at some of the things that the person who suggested this has said you'll see that tehy're just tryingg to get a rise out of you.

Loadsa love
Kelly
Today's spokesman for Nebbyland

Why wouldn't you agree with the last part?

They certainely haven't struck terror into the hearts of anyone I know!

Why wouldn't you agree with the last part?

They certainely haven't struck terror into the hearts of anyone I know!

You're probably right I was being extreme, however some of their statements have been so over the top to be fictional, and this can inspire fear. However that's nothing to the fear caused by a bombing campaign.

Loadsa Love

Kelly
Today's spokesman for Nebbyland

Why wouldn't you agree with the last part?

They certainely haven't struck terror into the hearts of anyone I know!

You're probably right I was being extreme, however some of their statements have been so over the top to be fictional, and this can inspire fear. However that's nothing to the fear caused by a bombing campaign.

Loadsa Love

Kelly
Today's spokesman for Nebbyland

Whilst I can see your point of view I don't really think that greenpeace's statements could be seen as 'terroristic'.

The average person knows that they are kind people who only want to protect the world.

And anyways, they don't wanna hurt the world and plants and stuff let alone humans! :P

And anyways, they don't wanna hurt the world and plants and stuff let alone humans!

You are so very wrong.

They have hurt people. Many of them. Just as those scum from Earth Liberation Front have destroyed a huge amount of property, GreenPeace has damaged and hurt more than it has protected.

And they use false science, just like the ^#%$&% Sierra Club. Good science can prevail but these people pervert things to an extreme.

Like I said; they are terrorists. Give them a fair trial. Then shoot them in the morning. We are much better off without them.

We the People's Republic Of Amyth agree totally with the E.L.F. being terrorists. We challenge anyone who doubts this to check thier website at http://earthliberationfront.com/about/ . However, we still have doubts about greenpeace and would like some information to back up this claim.

They have hurt people. Many of them. Just as those scum from Earth Liberation Front have destroyed a huge amount of property, GreenPeace has damaged and hurt more than it has protected.

I have never heard of Greenpeace hurting people! Tell me, when has this sort of action occured?

We the People's Republic Of Amyth agree totally with the E.L.F. being terrorists. We challenge anyone who doubts this to check thier website at http://earthliberationfront.com/about/ . However, we still have doubts about greenpeace and would like some information to back up this claim.

We the Free Land of Tipayimisoowin thank the PROA for the link, and are inclined to agree that the E.L.F. is indeed a terrorist-class organization, though not quite on the same scale as some other terrorist groups. However, the FLOT thinks that this interesting piece of fiction has no place here in the real world. Just because it is written about in another place does not mean that there will be copycat organizations here in the real world.

Respectfully,
The FLOT

(OOC: real world = NS. I'm not doubting the existence of the E.L.F. IRL, just in the NS world. And fiction = IRL :D )

Okay there are certain things Greenpeace does that could be construed as terrorist actions (such as sabotaging oil tankers by removing their propellers), but to call them a terrorist organization goes a bit too far....

Environment is bad. It's sole existence is to be exploited by the United States of Oppressed Possums.

We the PROA contend that if you take care of the enviornment and treat it well, you can exploit it for a lot longer time before it leaves...

Children are all the renewable resources we need.

I don't have a problem with Greenpeace because they are no where near the level of lies and violence that ELF (Earth Liberation Front) spreads with the destruction of SUV's or the random annoying people that have fake tickets that are placed under a windshield wiper for "Destroying the Enviroment".

I say allow greenpeace becauase otherwise the world will be completely barren with no wildlife or plant life. Pollutants will cause cancer by the age of 14 and people will be dying of asthma left and right.

For the record, what exactly is "Greenpeace"?

Arent you being a hipocrite Fantasan, you tell me that there is no need to take people's money away after they commit a crime if they have already been procecuted, yet you say Green peace's assets should be frozen when (if there were any, I'm not sure) people inside green peace commit "terrorist" acts that they were most likely already procecuted for.

Although, this wouldn't be the first time you said something entirely hipocritical, or submitted a stupid proposal.

I guess your logic is that people in business who commit crimes deserve better treatment than people who arent in business, or that people who commit crimes for the environment are worse than people who commit crimes for "selfish" resons.... :roll:

Oh, and not to mention hwo you are juding people who happen to be in a group guilty of a crime when it was somebody else who commited it. By that logic, all the members of the NCA are spammers, flamers, griefers, warmongerers, thiefs, godmoders, and idiots just because some people in the NCA are. (I don't have anythin against NCA members, I just used that example because Fantasan is the NCA leader.)

This is one of a very small nmber of issues for which I would give up all of my newly gained powers of endorsement in order to anti-endorse.

Go Greenpeace!

I think protecting the environment is important. Due to "selective" uranium mining, our lust forests were destroyed. That was a sad day. :cry:

I say, use terrorism on the terrorists!!

Due to unselective uranium mining, all of my country's forest problems were solved. Yep, not a tree in sight. If you want to see nature, you can go to a national park or wildlife refuge. We have plenty of those, paid for by user fees from nature nuts that want to see nature.

I think protecting the environment is important. Due to "selective" uranium mining, our lust forests were destroyed. That was a sad day. :cry:

I say, use terrorism on the terrorists!!

Due to unselective uranium mining, all of my country's forest problems were solved. Yep, not a tree in sight. If you want to see nature, you can go to a national park or wildlife refuge. We have plenty of those, paid for by user fees from nature nuts that want to see nature.

Umm... where do you get your oxygen?

I think protecting the environment is important. Due to "selective" uranium mining, our lust forests were destroyed. That was a sad day. :cry:

I say, use terrorism on the terrorists!!

Due to unselective uranium mining, all of my country's forest problems were solved. Yep, not a tree in sight. If you want to see nature, you can go to a national park or wildlife refuge. We have plenty of those, paid for by user fees from nature nuts that want to see nature.

Umm... where do you get your oxygen?

The atmosphere.

We have synthetic oxygen plants and oxygen bars like in Tokyo. Just in case.

I thought those oxygen bars were like flavored oxygen.

And making synthetic oxygen in plants costs ALOT of money, it's cheaper to just use tree's.

Not to mention that you would always have very smoggy air, and your workers would be less productive because of it, like it or not, tree's are capitalisms friend. I see no logical reason to get rid of them, think of all the dendraphyliacs lives you ruined!

I thought those oxygen bars were like flavored oxygen.

And making synthetic oxygen in plants costs ALOT of money, it's cheaper to just use tree's.

Not to mention that you would always have very smoggy air, and your workers would be less productive because of it, like it or not, tree's are capitalisms friend. I see no logical reason to get rid of them, think of all the dendraphyliacs lives you ruined!

I know. I was mocking the tree-huggers.

"At times one remains faithful to a cause solely because its opponents do not cease to be insipid." --Friedrich Nietzsche (okay Steph I did steal it from you, LoL!)

If this were to pass it would also set a precedence to ban other organizations that have small sects resort to violence an example of the others. The Catholic Church, since a small band of right to life groups that is linked to church has chosen to bomb health clinics. As for almost all religions this precedence would leave open to ban. Or pretty much any organization that someone has committed an act of violence on behalf of said organization. Even without the blessing of the organization.

As for me I would have to not vote for such a resolution and find it appalling that basic human rights are looked at so lightly.

OOC:

Might I just point out that Greenpeace does exist in NS. There was a thread about it some time ago in which the movement was formed, and ntions were asked if they supported it. This was around the time of the whaling controversy which led to war between Dark Terror and Bonstock (I think Bonstock anyway, I could be wrong).

The Principality of Dolphin-Lovers was one of many nations which stated that some of its people support greenpeace. At least 8 others were involved, including active nations which were over three months old.

There was talk of someone founding a nations called either 'Greenpeace' or 'NS Greenpeace' to represent this movement, but I do not know if it ever occured.

Thus Greenpeace exists in NS, even if it is much smaller, obscure and feebler than the real-life movement.

As for the proposal, dolphin-lovers will probably oppose it if it reaches a vote, because they are wishy-washy liberal environmentalists. However it will be interesting, because they normally blindly support all UN proposals.

Cannot find the old thread, but the Free Land of NS Greenpeace is alive and well.

You know, I thought I kind of knew what the putative Greenpeace (and, I suppose, our clandestine NS reality) and were on about (stopping whaling, campaigning toxic waste dumping, protecting old-growth forests and wilderness areas, and so forth).

That was until Fantasan exposed their true and rather deadly porpoise:

"...and whereas they will not relent until such individuals are deprived of their life, liberty, and right to exist...,".

Strewth. There’re really just a kind of environmental SS!

The recent actions to stop the ‘export’ of Asbestos ridden waste to India, in violation of the Basil Agreement on Toxic Waste, to be broken down by ununionised and unprotected workers, seems a little out of character for these blood-soaked terrorists.

Oh, and Greenpeace and Terrorism. I suppose Fantasan would like us all to follow the brave actions of the French Secret Service in Auckland harbour in 1985.

Terrorism?

I think protecting the environment is important. Due to "selective" uranium mining, our lust forests were destroyed. That was a sad day. :cry:

I say, use terrorism on the terrorists!!

Due to unselective uranium mining, all of my country's forest problems were solved. Yep, not a tree in sight. If you want to see nature, you can go to a national park or wildlife refuge. We have plenty of those, paid for by user fees from nature nuts that want to see nature.

Umm... where do you get your oxygen?

The majority of the worlds oxygen is produced by algae which exists in the top layer of surface water, as we all know the earth surface is covered mostly by water. Recently scientist have been speculating that algae might be responsible for up to 90% of oxygen production on this planet.

Very mature trees produce very little if any oxygen at all.

I thought it was cool when the 'peace loving' French bombed their boat for interfering with the nuclear bomb test. :twisted:

Greenpeace loves the earth. Screw all you Capitalist pigs. Greenpeace makes sure the world is a safe haven for the world. They should be allowed to kill Whalers, Loggers, and anyone else trying to murder our planet. Greenpeace are Mother Earth's Patriots! Save the planet. Kill a Seal Clubber today!

Greenpeace loves the earth. Screw all you Capitalist pigs. Greenpeace makes sure the world is a safe haven for the world. They should be allowed to kill Whalers, Loggers, and anyone else trying to murder our planet. Greenpeace are Mother Earth's Patriots! Save the planet. Kill a Seal Clubber today!

We the People's Republic Of Amyth feel that it is comments like this that make us too embarrased to call ourselves enviormentalists. We would apprecieate it if from now on any nation making mention of the PROA could use the term echo-friendly.

There is a saying in our country that we think applies here...
"All extremeists must perish!!!!!"

After wading through Eli's strangulated grammar, i can only assume that the French bombed their own boat.

If Eli means that the French bombed a Greenpeace boat to stop it INTERFERRING with their nuclear bomb...well, why bother?

I think protecting the environment is important. Due to "selective" uranium mining, our lust forests were destroyed. That was a sad day. :cry:

I say, use terrorism on the terrorists!!

Due to unselective uranium mining, all of my country's forest problems were solved. Yep, not a tree in sight. If you want to see nature, you can go to a national park or wildlife refuge. We have plenty of those, paid for by user fees from nature nuts that want to see nature.

Umm... where do you get your oxygen?

I don't know about you, but we import it. It's cheaper than making it ourselves.

You know, I thought I kind of knew what the putative Greenpeace (and, I suppose, our clandestine NS reality) and were on about (stopping whaling, campaigning toxic waste dumping, protecting old-growth forests and wilderness areas, and so forth).

Terrorism?

In my nation, the weeds are the "old growth" and with the toxic waste, they are growing rather large.

Stop mocking Tisonica. Everything they say is 100% right!

Stand up for the Earth. Stop the slaughter of our homeworld! Stop the criminals who pillage the seas and forests for fun and profit!

Stop mocking Tisonica. Everything they say is 100% right!

Stand up for the Earth. Stop the slaughter of our homeworld! Stop the criminals who pillage the seas and forests for fun and profit!

It would give us incentive to develop a greater space program.

True enough. Then, of course, we'd be in dire need of an intergalactic Greenpeace.

True enough. Then, of course, we'd be in dire need of an intergalactic Greenpeace.

Or a bigger galaxy.

Greenpeace loves the earth. Screw all you Capitalist pigs. Greenpeace makes sure the world is a safe haven for the world. They should be allowed to kill Whalers, Loggers, and anyone else trying to murder our planet. Greenpeace are Mother Earth's Patriots! Save the planet. Kill a Seal Clubber today!

Greenpeace just another socialist plot to take away property rights. Kill them all!! :evil:

Seals should be clubbed and all marine life destroyed if you want the oceans pollution free. They are all unsanatary creatures that swim around urinating and defecating all over the place. Disgusting. I've seen an otter vomit before and you know they do it in the water too. Freaks. Just think of the mess a blue whale leaves behind. Not very pleasent I'm sure. Imagine what our city streets, not to mention our homes, would be like if we behaved in such a manner. Uncivilized. Keep our oceans clean and kill everything that lives in it.

We here in Alabammy don't care much for no tree-huggin' hippies.

But we don't need no U.N. resolution to know how to take care of 'em.

-Prez Billy Bob Hicklee

That is a bit much. We could attempt to drain the oceans. That would be an impressive feat.

That would effective kill everything on the planet...

Y'all sure about that, OP?

I mean, I ain't much on havin' water around so long as we still gots beer.

-Prez Billy Bob Hicklee

Y'all sure about that, OP?

I mean, I ain't much on havin' water around so long as we still gots beer.

-Prez Billy Bob Hicklee

And what do you think makes beer a liquid? Air???

Y'all sure about that, OP?

I mean, I ain't much on havin' water around so long as we still gots beer.

-Prez Billy Bob Hicklee

And what do you think makes beer a liquid? Air???

I think you took that comment a bit too seriously.


Conservationist: One who is willing to exploit the enviroment for financial and social gain, but also sees that the natural enviroment is importiant in our lives and is willing to make sure that it lasts as long as possible. They cut down trees, plant new ones, and cut down the ones they planted when they're big. This is what a capitalist is if he or she is smart.

Enviromentalist: One who is an extremist conservationist. An enviromentalist places a much higher emphasis on keeping nature untouched then human needs and desires. This person will not allow a human being to touch any living anamal, ocean, or plant. In fact many even believe that humans should be the ones to be slaughtered and made extinct. They like to firebomb research facilities and tamper with logging machinery. These people are generally anarchists. Of course in an anarchy motocycle gangs would probably beat them sensless.

Greenpeace is kind of in the middle, leaning toward enviromentalist. They're not the most extreme movement, but we better get rid of them anyway just to be safe. You can keep the tree population stable while still cutting down trees. It's called conservation. Everyone embrace it.

Human desire comes first. If that desire includes having an unlimited supply of what our world provides, then we can desire to replant trees.

Seals should be clubbed and all marine life destroyed if you want the oceans pollution free. They are all unsanatary creatures that swim around urinating and defecating all over the place. Disgusting. I've seen an otter vomit before and you know they do it in the water too. Freaks. Just think of the mess a blue whale leaves behind. Not very pleasent I'm sure. Imagine what our city streets, not to mention our homes, would be like if we behaved in such a manner. Uncivilized. Keep our oceans clean and kill everything that lives in it.

Well where do you think the toilet waste goes? Do you eat it?
Do you have any pets what do you do with their waste? Do you train them to eat it?

We here in Alabammy don't care much for no tree-huggin' hippies.

But we don't need no U.N. resolution to know how to take care of 'em.

-Prez Billy Bob Hicklee

Yeah I know. Trailers don't need to be made with trees. Instead you burn burn the trees for heat and eat them for food because everyone is so poor.

We will never support this resolution! The environment must be protected!

Conservationist: One who is willing to exploit the enviroment for financial and social gain, but also sees that the natural enviroment is importiant in our lives and is willing to make sure that it lasts as long as possible. They cut down trees, plant new ones, and cut down the ones they planted when they're big. This is what a capitalist is if he or she is smart.

Enviromentalist: One who is an extremist conservationist. An enviromentalist places a much higher emphasis on keeping nature untouched then human needs and desires. This person will not allow a human being to touch any living anamal, ocean, or plant. In fact many even believe that humans should be the ones to be slaughtered and made extinct. They like to firebomb research facilities and tamper with logging machinery. These people are generally anarchists. Of course in an anarchy motocycle gangs would probably beat them sensless.

Greenpeace is kind of in the middle, leaning toward enviromentalist. They're not the most extreme movement, but we better get rid of them anyway just to be safe. You can keep the tree population stable while still cutting down trees. It's called conservation. Everyone embrace it.

Human desire comes first. If that desire includes having an unlimited supply of what our world provides, then we can desire to replant trees.

That is rather a silly version of eco-politics, isn't it?

Cutting down trees will always be with us, it is a matter of how this activity and its associated industries are managed in an equitable and sustainable manner. In most cases organised environmentalist groups seek to negotiate settlements that will be of benefits of all the players concerned. The destruction of large swathes of old-growth forests is not a sustainable activity. Using already cleared land for plantation purposes is.

The existence of abandoned and derelict towns and timber mills around the world is inevitably not the result of environmentalist terrorism but rather the result of over-harvesting of and lack of rational foresight.
Rational foresight, however, has not been a particularly strong point for those that seem to advocate a rapacious capitalism with little concern for the consequences. In the case of forestry in New South Wales, has it only been these environmentalists who have been put out by the past decimation of old growth forest areas. With these forests went the otherwise fertile soil cover and the destruction of once viable water catchment areas. The fishing and dairy industries in these areas now have joined the timber mills in splendid decay.

Of course there will always be radical elements in any broad issue based ‘cause’. In most cases in involves extreme activity on the part of both sides; whether it be the secret ‘spiking’ of trees to shatter chainsaws (and usually the hard pressed workers operating them) or the midnight clear felling of otherwise pristine forests for little economic gain but usually out of mere spite.

Life is not black and white, my friend, there are multicoloured shades of advantage and disadvantage. It certainly doesn’t help your argument to invent false dichotomies that bear little resemblance to the real world.

Woody and Salty Division
Economic Superstructure Secrétariat
CPOWSOS
(Central Politburo of Workers Soviets of Stakanovia)

Y'all sure about that, OP?

I mean, I ain't much on havin' water around so long as we still gots beer.

-Prez Billy Bob Hicklee

And what do you think makes beer a liquid? Air???

I think you took that comment a bit too seriously.

Not at all :)

Well where do you think the toilet waste goes?

What do you think is in our beer?

The following is a UN proposal, "GreenPeace Are Terrorists"

Description: Whereas the ecological extremist organization known as "Greenpeace" commonly goes out of its way to assault and infringe upon the rights of law abiding fishermen, hunters, loggers, and countless others, and whereas they will not relent until such individuals are deprived of their life, liberty, and right to exist, be it hereby Resolved that GreenPeace is a terrorist organization.

Be it resolved that as a terrorist organization, all Greenpeace assets in UN member nations' banks shall be frozen, and that any attempt by Greenpeace activists to hinder or harm a laborer in the lawful conduct of their job shall be met with military force.
I fully agree. These mindless tree huggers must be stopped. Or at least scaled back to legal activies.

-Official Spyw Statement-

Seals should be clubbed and all marine life destroyed if you want the oceans pollution free. They are all unsanatary creatures that swim around urinating and defecating all over the place. Disgusting. I've seen an otter vomit before and you know they do it in the water too. Freaks. Just think of the mess a blue whale leaves behind. Not very pleasent I'm sure. Imagine what our city streets, not to mention our homes, would be like if we behaved in such a manner. Uncivilized. Keep our oceans clean and kill everything that lives in it.
I support this view

-Non-Official Spyw Statement-

Why don't we just cause worls war three, nuke the place, and leave Earth a charred cinder? It would save a lot of time and bickering, I think.

Greenpeace is such a threatening, useless, putrid, smelly bunch of groupie treehuggers that Isochronous has a 2,000 man dedicated Anti-Greenpeace Unit.

Greenpeace is an organisation composed of bunch of savages and will soon be delegalised in our country ! Greenpeace members will be declared terrorist and shall be shot on sight ! We will support any UN resolution that enforces such law in other countries !

Long Live The Dictator !

Greenpeace are eveerything the people in this thread say they are at different times and at different protests. In some, they are peacefully concerned about the environment, at others, they endanger theur lives and the lives of others for the purpose of damaging large companies.

However, their presence in a country is a good sign of a healthy democracy. A quick poll of the countries that have banned Greenpeace is a quick tour of the world's abusive regimes. Iraq, Zimbabwe, Iran, China Nth Korea, Chad. They may be nutters, but important nutters, as they're usually the first to go in a human rights crackdown, cause they're usually the Govt.s most vocal critics. Their presence indicates a healthy democracy; their support an educated, affluent population as their methods are mainly Media-promotion, and to be exposed to the Media, you need to be educated and be able to afford to persue the outlets.

Hence, we should support Greenpeace's existance as another check and balance on the Govt. of a nation.

"I despise what you are saying, but will defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire

Hence, we should support Greenpeace's existance as another check and balance on the Govt. of a nation.

Nope. Sorry mister, but I ain't agreein' with ya.

U.N. was created to help prevent lil things like WWII.

Now, we all knows that them Japs are big whalers. They gets a lotta stuff from them whales.

If these Greenpeace hippies (most of 'em college students with nothin' better to do) start jackin' with the Japs' economy, who knows when they'll pull another Pearl Harbor?

See what I'm sayin'?

The U.N. is here to PROTECT the peace. Not to encourage folks to harass one another.

-Prez Billy Bob Hicklee

Hence, we should support Greenpeace's existance as another check and balance on the Govt. of a nation.

"I despise what you are saying, but will defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire

good point... but we have to consider the people that feel their rights are being threatened by Greenpeace. I know Hardcore Conservatives are proud fishermen and hunters, supporters of the organizations that protect their rights to do so. Greenpeace tries to infringe on those rights.

Peace,
Kristy
Hardcore Conservatives

I want a piece of the green...

Greenpeace are correct in their protests. Otherwise we would be ignorant to some of the issues they raise.

Greenpeace are correct in their protests. Otherwise we would be ignorant to some of the issues they raise.

How much damage do eco-terrorists do?

Alabammy, my point was not that Greenpeace is there to prevent WWII happening again, or to keep the peace (yes, that IS the role of the UN), but that the presence of Greenpeace indicates a healthy, functioning democracy. I view their role as upholding the rights of Humans, their environmental bent is largely irrelevant in the debate on banning them.
Granted, other organisations do the same job without the inconvienience of Greenpeace (Amnesty springs to mind), however Greenpeace is the most effective of the current organisations, as the are SO darn critical of the Govt., they're always the first to be banned.

As for the "right" to go hunting, I'd first disagree with the definition of a "right" you're employing, but that's another debate that will go on forever, so in passing I'll just say that we don't see the "right" to shoot Ducks/Deer/Blacks (in order, the top three entities on the recieving end of bullets in the United States) in the UN Universal Declaration on Human Rights, do we. I go back to my main point, that Greenpeace is a GARUNTEE of rights, so they may in fact be helping the Gun-nuts in keeping their right to hunt (oh the irony).

And yes, Greenpeace has some strong political views. But who is to judge wether these views are any more or less valid than any others put forward. As J.S. Mill said "Do not curb ANY views, as but the complete expression of opinion, Society arrives at the truth". We cannot justify banning Greenpeace because they supprot a ban on Duck hunting. In fact we should be welcoming them to the fold in that case, if only for balance.

Again we return to Voltaire and his "I despise what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it" as the crux of the debate.

we don't see the "right" to shoot Ducks/Deer/Blacks in the UN Universal Declaration on Human Rights, do we.

I reckon not.

But you go right on ahead and show me where in this UN thingy where it says my family has to go hungry this winter.

Ya go on and do that and I'll stop packin' my deep freeze with deer meat.

Until then, I ain't gonna feel a bit sorry if I bag some hippy instead of Bambi because he thought he'd be cute and chain himself to a deer.

-Prez Billy Bob Hicklee

Indeed it doesn't, in fact it acctually says you (and kin) have the right to a reasonable standard of living, and this is where your hunting for fod comes under. If you have to hunt it, it probably means your government has failed to provide you with that standard of living that is your right. Hence sue your government, instead of murdering hippies (it might be service to the world, but is still wrong, murder is a violation of the right to life, rights are universal, applying to society's dregs (hippies) as to society's leaders).

I have no problem with hunting at all, Greenpeace have a problem. I have a problem with banning Greenpeace, not because of their environmental bent (screw the environment for all I care, just as long as you don't dump the lead in my backyard), but because of their function as a rights garuntee.

Also, Greenpeace only really has support in affluent, educated, Western countries, so if you're still having to HUNT food, I doubt you've got a major Greenie problem.

Keep greenpeace, keep rights

If we formed a "Greenpeace," that's one step away from an UN military... :twisted:

The following is a UN proposal, "GreenPeace Are Terrorists"

Description: Whereas the ecological extremist organization known as "Greenpeace" commonly goes out of its way to assault and infringe upon the rights of law abiding fishermen, hunters, loggers, and countless others, and whereas they will not relent until such individuals are deprived of their life, liberty, and right to exist, be it hereby Resolved that GreenPeace is a terrorist organization.

Be it resolved that as a terrorist organization, all Greenpeace assets in UN member nations' banks shall be frozen, and that any attempt by Greenpeace activists to hinder or harm a laborer in the lawful conduct of their job shall be met with military force.

Our Head of State, H.R.H. King Douglas I, worked for Greenpeace for several years, and is DAMN PROUD OF IT!!! But even if that weren't the case, our constitution contains the following provision, based on the U.S. Constitution: "No ex post facto law or bill of attainder shall be passed..." A bill of attainder is an attempt to criminalise an individual or group by legislative fiat. It's a gross and obvious violation of human rights--and our people want no part of it.

The following is a UN proposal, "GreenPeace Are Terrorists"

Description: Whereas the ecological extremist organization known as "Greenpeace" commonly goes out of its way to assault and infringe upon the rights of law abiding fishermen, hunters, loggers, and countless others, and whereas they will not relent until such individuals are deprived of their life, liberty, and right to exist, be it hereby Resolved that GreenPeace is a terrorist organization.

Be it resolved that as a terrorist organization, all Greenpeace assets in UN member nations' banks shall be frozen, and that any attempt by Greenpeace activists to hinder or harm a laborer in the lawful conduct of their job shall be met with military force.

Our Head of State, H.R.H. King Douglas I, worked for Greenpeace for several years, and is DAMN PROUD OF IT!!! But even if that weren't the case, our constitution contains the following provision, based on the U.S. Constitution: "No ex post facto law or bill of attainder shall be passed..." A bill of attainder is an attempt to criminalise an individual or group by legislative fiat. It's a gross and obvious violation of human rights--and our people want no part of it.

The following is a UN proposal, "GreenPeace Are Terrorists"

Description: Whereas the ecological extremist organization known as "Greenpeace" commonly goes out of its way to assault and infringe upon the rights of law abiding fishermen, hunters, loggers, and countless others, and whereas they will not relent until such individuals are deprived of their life, liberty, and right to exist, be it hereby Resolved that GreenPeace is a terrorist organization.

Be it resolved that as a terrorist organization, all Greenpeace assets in UN member nations' banks shall be frozen, and that any attempt by Greenpeace activists to hinder or harm a laborer in the lawful conduct of their job shall be met with military force.

I agree!

If they used their financial resources to simply BUY the lands and waters from the owning countries instead of using the methods they do, it would be different. Hiring Mercs for stupid stunts is just as expensive as that would be. If an organization hires Mercs to fight, kill and/or raid, they can not be considered a peaceful *anything*.