NationStates Jolt Archive

Un-Proposed Resolution #2 version 1.01

Category Enviornmental - All Industry

Article I
All People must be protected from significant risks to human health and the environment where they live, learn and work.

Article II
All International efforts to reduce environmental risk must be based on the best available scientific information.

Article III
All International laws protecting human health and the environment are enforced fairly and effectively.

Article IV
Environmental protection is an integral consideration in NSun policies concerning natural resources, human health, economic growth, energy, transportation, agriculture, industry, and international trade, and these factors are similarly considered in establishing environmental policy.

Article V
All parts of society--communities, individuals, business, national, state and local governments, tribal governments--be granted access to the most accurate information available to effectively participate in managing human health and environmental risks.

Article VI
It is the sense of the NSun that environmental protection contributes to making our communities and ecosystems diverse, sustainable and economically productive.

proposal ends

We the People's Republic Of Amyth are concerned about the growing extremism in the ns enviromental movement and are suggesting this resolution as a compromise between the needs of the environment and the needs of the economy. Please be aware that as we the PROA are endorsentally challenged we have not porposed this resolution.

Un-Proposed Resolution #2 version 1.00

Article I
All People must be protected from significant risks to human health and the environment where they live, learn and work.

Article II
International efforts to reduce environmental risk must be based on the best available scientific information.

Article III
International laws protecting human health and the environment are enforced fairly and effectively.

Article IV
Environmental protection is an integral consideration in NSun policies concerning natural resources, human health, economic growth, energy, transportation, agriculture, industry, and international trade, and these factors are similarly considered in establishing environmental policy.

Article V
All parts of society--communities, individuals, business, national, state and local governments, tribal governments--be granted access to the most accurate information available to effectively participate in managing human health and environmental risks.

Article VI
Environmental protection contributes to making our communities and ecosystems diverse, sustainable and economically productive.

proposal ends

We the People's Republic Of Amyth are concerned about the growing extremism in the ns enviromental movement and are suggesting this resolution as a compromise between the needs of the environment and the needs of the economy. Please be aware that as we the PROA are endorsentally challenged we have not porposed this resolution.

I might agree, if I didn't stand by the arguement 'my people, my laws for them'. The NS UN shouldn't be touching eniviromental LAWS in other nations. And if they do, it cannot be enforced. Its my nation let me decide. Nay! My people vote on such laws for themselves, let my people decide!

~Korunida~

Article I
All People must be protected from significant risks to human health and the environment where they live, learn and work.


I might agree, if I didn't stand by the arguement 'my people, my laws for them'. The NS UN shouldn't be touching eniviromental LAWS in other nations. And if they do, it cannot be enforced. Its my nation let me decide. Nay! My people vote on such laws for themselves, let my people decide!

~Korunida~

We the PROA feel that this is the only article which infringes upon national soverignty and due to the obsessive abundance of human rights legislation already passed probablly is already covered. We at the PROA still feel that this issue should be addresses and we apprecieate the fact that the only issue you have with this legislation is national.

The NS UN does have a right to interfere on environmental issues because one irresponsible nation affects the whole world. There should also never be any compromise on environmental issues, if something is unsustainable is should be stopped no matter what the economic consequences may be.

I'd redraft the language slightly:

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Article I
All People must be protected from significant risks to human health and the environment where they live, learn and work.

Article II
All international efforts to reduce environmental risk must be based on the best available scientific information.

Article III
All international laws protecting human health and the environment must be enforced fairly and effectively.

Article IV
Environmental protection must be an integral consideration in UN policies concerning natural resources, human health, economic growth, energy, transportation, agriculture, industry, and international trade, and these factors are similarly considered in establishing environmental policy.

Article V
All parts of society--communities, individuals, business, national, state and local governments, tribal governments--shall be granted access to the most accurate information available to effectively participate in managing human health and environmental risks.

Article VI
It is the sense of the United Nations that environmental protection contributes to making our communities and ecosystems diverse, sustainable and economically productive.

The main problem I have with this is that it doesn't really do that much, so I'd have to see the category.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
DU Regional Delegate

We the PROA feel this should be Enviornment - All Industry
We the PROA have redrafted the origional proposal as Goobergunchia suggested.

We the People's Republic Of Amyth are concerned about the growing extremism in the ns enviromental movement and are suggesting this resolution as a compromise between the needs of the environment and the needs of the economy. Please be aware that as we the PROA are endorsentally challenged we have not porposed this resolution.

Really, how so? Why do you refer to yourself as we? I'm afraid I don't understand what the extremism is about. Excuse me being stupid, but could you please explain it in a less confusing manner?

The NS UN does have a right to interfere on environmental issues because one irresponsible nation affects the whole world. There should also never be any compromise on environmental issues, if something is unsustainable is should be stopped no matter what the economic consequences may be.


[OOC: Do you drive a car? Do you ride in cars? Do you in anyway add to your nation's economical footprint? Air Planes? Water use? Garbage? Unrecyclable garbage? Paper? Then stop it!

According to my interpretation of your above post (I could be mistaken...I was once before.... I think) no matter the inconvience, steps should be taken to ending pollution. I wouldn't say such things, unless you are able to do them on a personal level first. ]

The NS UN does have a right to interfere on environmental issues because one irresponsible nation affects the whole world. There should also never be any compromise on environmental issues, if something is unsustainable is should be stopped no matter what the economic consequences may be.


[OOC: Do you drive a car? Do you ride in cars? Do you in anyway add to your nation's economical footprint? Air Planes? Water use? Garbage? Unrecyclable garbage? Paper? Then stop it!

According to my interpretation of your above post (I could be mistaken...I was once before.... I think) no matter the inconvience, steps should be taken to ending pollution. I wouldn't say such things, unless you are able to do them on a personal level first. ]

Definitions of sustainable vary, I said that all unsustainable exploitation should be stopped which, when you think about it is only common sense. If it is unsustainable it cannot last, stopping sooner rather than later will limit the damage. That does not necessarily mean no cars /aircraft or all going back to pre-industrial society, it means using renewable energy sources, recycling and such. Obviously in the long term you have to go further and stop even sustainable exploitation but that is not really practical at the moment. As for doing things on a personal level, as much as I would like to spend my time dancing naked through the trees I am not sure how the rest of society would look on it. That and of course in doing so I would be unlikely to convince anyone else to agree with me so it wouldnt really solve the problem.

I can see investment in building factories in third world countries going down when this passes. Poor third world countries. They'll never develop now.

Article I
All People must be protected from significant risks to human health and the environment where they live, learn and work.

So much for my AP Biology class

Article II
All International efforts to reduce environmental risk must be based on the best available scientific information.

And how judges what is best pray tell? Government doesn't exactly get along with science too well.

Article III
All International laws protecting human health and the environment are enforced fairly and effectively.

Let me guess... by the US Marine Corps?

Article IV
Environmental protection is an integral consideration in NSun policies concerning natural resources, human health, economic growth, energy, transportation, agriculture, industry, and international trade, and these factors are similarly considered in establishing environmental policy.

Tell a poor third-world farmer that no, he can't have an SUV because it will increase world temperatures which may or may not be harmful.

Article V
All parts of society--communities, individuals, business, national, state and local governments, tribal governments--be granted access to the most accurate information available to effectively participate in managing human health and environmental risks.

Alot of wacko ideas turn out to be right... won't this harm those?

Article VI
It is the sense of the NSun that environmental protection contributes to making our communities and ecosystems diverse, sustainable and economically productive.

Sustainability means more technology, not less development.

I propose somthing much simpler. If the ceo's and stockholders of enviromentally destructive companies had to live in the toxic areas they create, had to bathe in the effluent stream from each factory and had to breath the toxic fumes said factories spew forth, then perhaps we wouldnt need "enviromental" controlls and laws.

We the People's Republic Of Amyth are concerned about the growing extremism in the ns enviromental movement and are suggesting this resolution as a compromise between the needs of the environment and the needs of the economy. Please be aware that as we the PROA are endorsentally challenged we have not porposed this resolution.

Really, how so? Why do you refer to yourself as we? I'm afraid I don't understand what the extremism is about. Excuse me being stupid, but could you please explain it in a less confusing manner?

We, the FLOT, would like to inform the nation of Diddlydoom that the use of "we" is, indeed, the 'royal "we"' employed by monarchies and heads of state to refer to the people of the nation. As the leader of a nation, I speak for all of my people, or at least that is the general idea.

Respectfully,
The FLOT