Free Healthcare
Please support my UN proposal for free healthcare. Everyone should get proper medical treatment around the world.
DaRight WingConspiracy
11-09-2003, 13:58
Not this crap again :roll:
Hey Europaland,
There is no such thing as free healthcare, free books, free medicine, free food, free-education, free TV’s, free housing, free (insert your pet project here)! Someone pays for each of these "proposals".
Take an economics course and think before you write...it will save you a lot of embarrassment.
Free Outer Eugenia
11-09-2003, 14:05
Free Outer Eugenia
11-09-2003, 14:05
No such thing as a free tax cut either. As you well know, "free healthcare" is another word for socially subsidized healthcare. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need and all that. Same goes for education.
We the People's Republic Of Amyth wonder if 2 free health care resolutions is not enough. We hope that many more free health care resolutions can be proposed in the future, so that our citizens get dragged off the streets and forced in to hospitals for their own good, or perhaps they are never allowed to leave from birth?
Yes, let's rob Peter to pay Paul...
The Global Market
11-09-2003, 20:45
Yes, let's rob Peter to pay Paul...
Or better yet let's rob Peter under the pretext of paying Paul then convientiently "lose" the money in a bureaucratic fiasco!
Ooh, I like that better! Gives a nice air of legitimacy to the whole thing!
The Global Market
11-09-2003, 21:00
Ooh, I like that better! Gives a nice air of legitimacy to the whole thing!
Of course!
Healthcare is not a right, no matter how good it makes anyone feel to believe that it is.
The Global Market
12-09-2003, 00:00
Healthcare is not a right, no matter how good it makes anyone feel to believe that it is.
I concur
Oppressed Possums
12-09-2003, 00:46
Not this crap again :roll:
Hey Europaland,
There is no such thing as free healthcare, free books, free medicine, free food, free-education, free TV’s, free housing, free (insert your pet project here)! Someone pays for each of these "proposals".
Take an economics course and think before you write...it will save you a lot of embarrassment.
Yes there are. All you have to do is change the definitions. Free healthcare can be provided by not providing any at all. If you make no conditions of quality, then it's very easy.
Free Outer Eugenia
12-09-2003, 04:39
Yes, let's rob Peter to pay Paul... No, lets tax peter to save paul's life.
Not this crap again :roll:
Hey Europaland,
There is no such thing as free healthcare, free books, free medicine, free food, free-education, free TV’s, free housing, free (insert your pet project here)! Someone pays for each of these "proposals".
Take an economics course and think before you write...it will save you a lot of embarrassment.
Yes there are. All you have to do is change the definitions. Free healthcare can be provided by not providing any at all. If you make no conditions of quality, then it's very easy.
That would not exactly constitute as "healthcare", since it would be "total lack of healthcare"... the two are not exactly interchangable, being near opposites.
Does anyone other than me think it would be EXTREMELY nice if people read all the resolutions that have been passed before submitting something?
Does anyone other than me think it would be EXTREMELY nice if people read all the resolutions that have been passed before submitting something?
Are you kidding? That would almost make sense...
Are you kidding? That would almost make sense...
You are too right. Forgive me for giving people too much credit.
Yes, let's rob Peter to pay Paul...
Or better yet let's rob Peter under the pretext of paying Paul then convientiently "lose" the money in a bureaucratic fiasco!
no, no, no
Rob Peter under the pretext of paying Paul then conveniantly "lose" the money in a bureaucratic fiasco, and then blame it on Mary, thereby turning the public's attention away from the government!
Having 100% of health care be at government expense is probably not practicable and would result either in the government needing to restrict how much health care each person can recieve in order to keep costs manageable (like a HMO that says you can only stay in the hospital for X days), or else a massive overconsumption of health care as people demand treatment for trivial complaints (such as demanding antibiotics when they have a cold, despite the proven ineffectiveness of such a treatment).
However, I would support limited emergency health care at government expense. If a competent doctor determines that a patient will probably die without immediate treatment, then the patient should not be denied treatment on the basis of an inability to pay for said treatment. In such a case, refusing treatment is equivalent to saying "the patient's life is not worth saving because he has no money".