Call for Unity against Idiotic Legislation
With reference to the so-called "Common Sense Act II" proposal and the Concerns over "Common Sense Act II" debate.
This debate is becoming increasingly irrelevant. It clearly appears the lickspittles of the UN will pass this absolute mockery of a UN convention. It is abjectly unworkable as law and clearly little more than a tool to legitimise oppression of the working classes, protection of the dangerous practices of capital and the debasement of the principal of free speech. Its seemingly amusing and inoffensive intent is a hollow reflection of the ugly bushite “war against terrorism”, currently being used in the ‘real’ world for all manner of unrelated and nefarious crimes against humanity.
While we at CPOWSOS fully understand Ryanania’s position of abstention from the UN, we believe there is one opportunity left. That is an alliance of those who have voiced opposition to this idiocy to band together in an unlikely alliance of all those who see the dark side of this proposition to lobby bloody hard all those in their regions to try and turn this thing around. If we fail, my friends, we should then consider means to have this stupid idea expunged. While many of us will disagree on many issues, some to the point of war, this may be a position we can rally around in the short term.
If we fail, only then will it become apparent that this organisation does not operate in any sane and cohesive manner with regard to thoughtful and relevant legislation. Only then should we consider withdrawing from the UN, but there is little point in taking such steps in the manner of individual nation resignations – a little trickle of rightly disgruntled nations will have little or no impact on the UN and such foolishness will be continue to plague those who follow. If we were to take such a step it should be en masse. Remember though, it is only through some organised action can we realise success. It may be that a new and temporary region could emerge but we’re not sure if this would be viable. We look forward to any and all suggestions. Really.
Peoples Commissar
Internal Security and Foreign Affairs Department
CPOWSOS
(Central Politburo of Workers Soviets of Stakanovia)
We the People's Republic Of Amyth will support whole-heartedly this organisation. We at the PROA also feel that it is only through organising that any sanity can be brought to the NSun. However, as a ex-member state, we feel that the alliance should not be limited to only un members, as many nations, like us would love to rejoin the NSun when it becomes more mature.
As for a alliance name, how about Coalition of Concerned UN Citizens
It is not an organisation as such, just a vague idea that perhaps there should be attempt to introduce some sanity into the types and content of proposals that go to vote at the UN.
Maybe that is a new region, perhaps someone more experienced than I could suggest a better method of organising and mobilisting interested nations.
Good point about current non and ex members perhaps this could be a mechanism to encourage a a more forceful engagement with the current stagnant proposal and voting system.
Peoples Commissar
Internal Security and Foreign Affairs Department
CPOWSOS
(Central Politburo of Workers Soviets of Stakanovia)
It clearly appears the lickspittles of the UN will pass this absolute mockery of a UN convention.
You could always resign from the UN.
It is interesting to note that you have defined nations who are supporting the measure as lickspittles. The People's Republic of Surrender Monkey wonders why Stankovia would hold such a vast portion of the General Assembly in such contempt?
You are a fool if you think this will make any difference!
Ok, maybe the lickspittle bit was a bit too rough, but it still amazes me that such a resolution could get such a seemingly large number of votes in its favour.
Stakanovia believes that resignation from bodies such as the UN over particular issues is but an indivualistic response to the problem. The point is not to cry and rush home to brood and yell from the sidelines but to engage forcefully in the process. Probably, though, the invective may be a bit over the top.
MalPractia, that is the point of the thread...to see if the concept is indeed pointless. There is actually no point in wondering about it in the abstract - it has to be thrown open for opinion such as yours.
Undersecretary
Rose Coloured Glasses Secrétariat
Internal Security and Foreign Affairs Department
CPOWSOS
(Central Politburo of Workers Soviets of Stakanovia)
We the People's Republic Of Amyth believe that only through organisation, and by this the forming of some sort of organisation which has many members working towards the same goal, will any change in the NSun be achieved. We at the PROA tried without avail to change the NSun from within, before we left, and had no sucess individually.
Ok, maybe the lickspittle bit was a bit too rough, but it still amazes me that such a resolution could get such a seemingly large number of votes in its favour.
Why is it amazing to you?
Stakanovia believes that resignation from bodies such as the UN over particular issues is but an indivualistic response to the problem.
We did not resign over one particular issue. We in Surrender Monkey resigned when an aggressive pattern developed of using the UN as a supranational legislature that vomited upon the integrity of our laws and economy.
Actions speak louder than words. 80% of all nations have eschewed joining the UN. Why?
I suppose that I can still muster amazment at peoples daftness exhibits a sort of faith in human intellegence. The use of invective is probably a result of the frustration incurred when it constantly fails to materialise.
On the resignation front, however, I still believe that attempting to reform the damn thing may be a worthwhile project.
Anyway, it's pretty much like that in the real world and there is little point in resigning from that just yet.
I am losing interest in nationstates.
However, I have created my own region:
"Civil Rights Lovefest" for those who are tired of the direction in
which the UN is heading.
"World Factbook Entry: This Region is for nations who wish to reform the UN. Example: Require a 2/3 vote on all resolutions."
I am losing interest in nationstates.
However, I have created my own region:
"Civil Rights Lovefest" for those who are tired of the direction in
which the UN is heading.
"World Factbook Entry: This Region is for nations who wish to reform the UN. Example: Require a 2/3 vote on all resolutions."
I voted 'With ye'.
Demo-Bobylon
10-09-2003, 17:49
Oh! I was planning top make a proposal against pop-up advertising!
Ok, maybe the lickspittle bit was a bit too rough, but it still amazes me that such a resolution could get such a seemingly large number of votes in its favour.
Why is it amazing to you?
Stakanovia believes that resignation from bodies such as the UN over particular issues is but an indivualistic response to the problem.
We did not resign over one particular issue. We in Surrender Monkey resigned when an aggressive pattern developed of using the UN as a supranational legislature that vomited upon the integrity of our laws and economy.
Actions speak louder than words. 80% of all nations have eschewed joining the UN. Why?
Because a lot of countries are secondary ones of people who are already in the UN? Each person would only need 5 nations. I have that many myself.
It doesn't really matter whether you win or lose. Anyone that shouts 'You are a fool if you think this will make any difference!' is just part of the flock. All that really matters is that you voice your opinoin. Maybe other people will hear it and take it into consideration. At LEAST you can say 'I stood up to something I thought was wrong' rather then 'I'm a pussy and a sheep. I have no will power of my own. The government gives me a predestined life and I follow it whether I like it or not, ignoring those nagging feelings that it could be better.' No one wants to be the latter.
I suppose that I can still muster amazment at peoples daftness exhibits a sort of faith in human intellegence.
Why do you think that people who think differently than you are daft?
To be considered intelligent, is it required to share your political beliefs?
Catholic Europe
11-09-2003, 19:43
You are a fool if you think this will make any difference!
I agree with you that it will definetly not make any differance.
Oppressed Possums
12-09-2003, 01:08
You can make stupidity an international crime. It could further democracy, international security, or political stability...
The Republic of Sparkinia stands with you.
Sincerely,
The President of the Republic of Sparkinia
The Republic of Sparkinia stands with you.
Sincerely,
The President of the Republic of Sparkinia
The Republic of Sparkinia stands with you.
Sincerely,
The President of the Republic of Sparkinia
The Republic of Sparkinia stands with you.
Sincerely,
The President of the Republic of Sparkinia
In the ancient traditions of my people, we must post things four times for emphasis.
OOC: Sorry. Won't happen again. School's computer f*cked up.
In the ancient traditions of my people, we must post things four times for emphasis.
THREE times!