NationStates Jolt Archive

(This first part was jus copied out of the FAQ because far too many times, people don't read it. Hell, I didn't read it until a month ago :))

The United Nations
What's the United Nations?
The UN is the world's governing body. It proposes and votes on resolutions, which are then binding on all member nations. In other words, it's a hot-bed of political intrigue and double-dealing.

Your nation can join the UN, but it's not compulsory. As a non-member, you are unaffected by any UN decisions. So if you're happy looking after your nation and don't want to dabble in international politics, don't join up.

If you're ready to take your nation onto the world stage, though, the UN is for you.

So I'm a UN member. Now what?
The UN is your chance to mold the rest of the world to your vision, by voting for resolutions you like and scuttling the rest. However, it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will also be affected by any resolutions that pass. (You can't just obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations do.)

The first thing to do is inspect the current UN resolution at vote (if there is one). If you agree, vote for it; if you don't, oppose it. Depending on how ardent you feel, you can also debate the issue in the forum, or wire telegrams to other nations.

Second, you can endorse other UN members, which is a way to signal that you like their policies, or their leader, or their cool flag, or whatever. The nation with the most endorsements in each region is appointed Regional Delegate (see below), and gets to wield additional influence.

Finally, you can propose your own resolutions. If approved, these go in the queue to be voted on by the entire UN. You may, however, be required to possess a minimum number of endorsements first.

How come some nations get more votes than others?
Regular UN member nations each get one vote. Regional Delegates, however, get an additional vote for every UN member in their region who endorses them. This can makes Delegates from large regions quite powerful.

Delegates also have the unique ability to approve proposals, deciding which of them will become resolutions to be voted on by the entire UN, and which are silently dispatched into the night never to be heard from again. A proposal needs 6% of all Delegates to approve it to become a resolution.

How can I become a Regional Delegate?
Gain the support of other nations in your region. This is obtained via endorsements: the nation with the most endorsements in each region is appointed the Regional Delegate.

You need at least 1 endorsement to become a Delegate. It is therefore impossible for a region with only one UN member to have a Delegate.

How do I endorse another nation?
First, note that you can only endorse another nation if:

You are a UN member
They are a UN member
You are located in the same region
If all these are true, the nation you want to endorse will have an "[Add Your Endorsement]" link in its United Nations Activity section. Click that.

How do I approve a proposal?
You must be a Regional Delegate. If you are, then you will have an option to approve proposals when you view the list. By allowing unapproved proposals to fall by the wayside, Regional Delegates make sure that the UN only votes on worthy issues.

Can my four nations all join the UN?
No. You may only have one nation in the UN at any given time. To enforce this, UN member nations must supply an e-mail address.

What if I sneak them in using other e-mail addresses?
First up, don't. This is against the rules, and other people will be annoyed with you when they find out. It's a low, underhand thing to do. And the chances of getting caught are pretty high: the game uses four different methods to detect cheaters.

Nations that rort the UN in this way will be expelled and prevented from re-joining. If you do it with multiple nations, they'll all be deleted, including your main nation. If you're especially annoying, you'll be banned from making any new nations, too. But don't make me do that.

Can I make a UN resolution to add war to the game?
No. Well, you can, but I'm still not going to add war. The UN is not there to request new game features. I admit this would be nice: propose a change, vote it through, and BAM! The game gets better. But then, I would have to make the BAM! part happen, so this won't fly. It would require me to spend so much time rewriting game code that I wouldn't be able to pursue my real passion, which is earning enough money to buy food, and staying sane.

UN resolutions are a way to bring all member nations into line on a particular issue; be that environmental, democratic, free trade, or whatever. Don't suggest game improvements there. They just clutter up the place. And they make people think, "Hey, yeah, that would be cool! Why doesn't that bum Max Barry get off his ass and do that?" I get e-mails.

The United Nations Forum
The UN forum is not for War or trade. Thats what we have Nationstates and International Inncidents for. This forum is for discussion on current proposals, why and why it shouldn't be passed. It is also to gain support for your proposal as well as revise and issue.

Please Remember, do not post inappropriate proposals and save the moderators some time will ya? And when I say "appropriate" use your common sense on what that means ok?

Remember, all UN members are REQUIRED to follow all of the past resolutions.

Helpful Links:
Past UN Resolutions (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.html/page=Un_Past_Resolutions)
List of UN Proposals (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.html/page=Un_Proposal)
Make a Proposal (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.html/page=UN_New_Proposal)Remember, 2 endorsements are required to do so.
The UN Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.html/page=UN)
A list of all regions and their delegates (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.html/page=list_regions)
How to write a UN proposal (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55117)

Thanks for doing this. You rock! :)

Peace,
Stephanie.

Thanks for doing this. You rock! :)

Peace,
Stephanie. :D Thats twice in two days that I rock! Thanks Steph. :wink:

Here's a link that some may find useful... http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55117

Here's a link that some may find useful... http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55117

Helpful as always King siroc.

Don't thank me, thank TBF. :wink: He's been dying for a sticky for a long time.

*Poke* Its my stickied post!

*Poke* Its my stickied post!

Noted! While TBF had a helpful link, this is indeed Geforce's sticky post. :wink:

Peace,
Stephanie.

*Poke* Its my stickied post!

Noted! While TBF had a helpful link, this is indeed Geforce's sticky post. :wink:

Peace,
Stephanie.lol]
pok3 :D

I was thinking along the lines of Scolo's Sticky List, sorry, wasn't trying to steal your thunder GeForce! :wink:

This thread, at the time of writing, has only had 92 views. Why?! It needs a more prominent topic title methinks. Just my two IOUs.

I'm open to suggestions.. :)

Peace,
Stephanie

:? I didnt say it to be mean I'm just fasinated and I had to Poke it. :shock: I would like to add some things to this. Any Ideas?

How about the UN Charter? I can get a link!

~Korunida~

How about the UN Charter? I can get a link!

~Korunida~

If you wanted to put a link up to the UN charter that would be cool. I don't want to create to many sticky posts as I don't want the whole first page bogged down with them. I personally think a good place to post the link would be on the "What Is The Mandate Of The UN? sticky.

Just my $0.02

Peace,
Stephanie.

I don't think this is a bad place for it, but I'll delete this post if you want me to:



http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/ch-chp1.htm

THE CHARTER OF THE UNITED NATIONS!

~Korunida~

It's all good :)

Peace,
Stephanie.

How do I approve a proposal?
You must be a Regional Delegate. If you are, then you will have an option to approve proposals when you view the list. By allowing unapproved proposals to fall by the wayside, Regional Delegates make sure that the UN only votes on worthy issues.



I do not get this option... What should I do??? :?:

Well, since you're not delegate and therefore can't approve proposals the only thing you can do is ask delegates to approve the ones you want approved. Once is enough of course, you don't want to be accused of spam.

Well, since you're not delegate and therefore can't approve proposals the only thing you can do is ask delegates to approve the ones you want approved. Once is enough of course, you don't want to be accused of spam.

But I AM a regional delegate...

According to your status, you're a UN member. I suggest you wait until the next update, you should have your delegate powers transferred to you by then unless the founder has barred the delegate access to regional control. You will be able to approve proposals though.

edit: I see you're new so when I said 'next update', I meant tomorrow. :wink:

Yeah, I guess that'll be it :wink: Thanx!
ANyway, in my regional status, I already am regional delegate, and I was already able to post a resolution proposal (by the way, you might approve of it :) ), so it's a bit funny that I can't approve of others. But I will be patient

You could post a proposal but you couldn't approve others made? That'll be because any nation with two endorsements or over can create a proposal. Not just delegates! :wink:

Oh, and if it doesn't work tomorrow, post something about it in the Tech forum where all this conversation should have been really.

Edit: Read the FAQ too, there's a lot of invaluable information in there that'll help you a lot later in the game (and now).

You could post a proposal but you couldn't approve others made? That'll be because any nation with two endorsements or over can create a proposal. Not just delegates! :wink:

Oh, and if it doesn't work tomorrow, post something about it in the Tech forum where all this conversation should have been really.

Edit: Read the FAQ too, there's a lot of invaluable information in there that'll help you a lot later in the game (and now).

Thanx again. I already read the FAQ but I must have overlooked your first remark :wink:
Ans sorry if I brought this up in the wrong topic... Well, good luck!

No problem. You've justgot to learn which forums are for which posts.

does this mean that the mods can move diffrent topics to diffrent boards?

does this mean that the mods can move diffrent topics to diffrent boards?

Yes, we can!

Stephanie
Forum Mod

does this mean that the mods can move diffrent topics to diffrent boards?

Mods can do everything! Never turn your back on a mod, its bad news! :wink:

I better be good then or the mods will get me!

I better be good then or the mods will get me!

Lol.

does this mean that the mods can move diffrent topics to diffrent boards?

Yes, we can!

Stephanie
Forum Mod

And you guys can also split irrelevant posts off....

does this mean that the mods can move diffrent topics to diffrent boards?

Yes, we can!

Stephanie
Forum Mod

And you guys can also split irrelevant posts off....

Yes yes but getting back on topic..

Poke

My sticky!

Thanks for posting this man you rock!!
Now I'm wanting to join the UN how do I find the whole FAQ thing?

The UN FAQ is right at the beginning of this thread.

alrite there mate nice to see your doing your job sirocco necronz is also me as you know:)

Thanks for posting this man you rock!!
Now I'm wanting to join the UN how do I find the whole FAQ thing?
The whole FAQ is the "FAQ" link in your naviation frame.

I'm sorry for going off topic, but I just had to be the one to put the 66666 post on this board. ;)

I'm a new dellegate. and I have a question.

The current resolution says that voting ends on Wednesday. Is that a specific time on Wednesfday? If so, when? If I want to get my vote in but want to leave the most time posible for my region members to give their opinions, do I need to get it in on Tuesday night, Wednes day early, Wednesday evening, or when?

Than's all one question with too much explanation! Thanks for your help!

I like to MODALERT.

This has been an OOC post.

I'm a new dellegate. and I have a question.

The current resolution says that voting ends on Wednesday. Is that a specific time on Wednesfday? If so, when? If I want to get my vote in but want to leave the most time posible for my region members to give their opinions, do I need to get it in on Tuesday night, Wednes day early, Wednesday evening, or when?

Than's all one question with too much explanation! Thanks for your help!

Resolution votes close at 5:00 PM Eastern Time, so you have to get it in before then.

THe list of previous UN resolutions, and other links posted by the dude at the top of this thread seem to have gone missing - anyone know where?

Use this instead:

Past UN Resolutions (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_past_resolutions)
List of UN Proposals (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=Un_Proposal)
Make a Proposal (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_New_Proposal)Remember, 2 endorsements are required to do so.
The UN Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN)
A list of all regions and their delegates (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=list_regions)
How to write a UN proposal (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55117)

Who and what is the complience ministry? What do they do? What powers do they have? and why do they keep on filling up my telegram in box?

However, it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will also be affected by any resolutions that pass. (You can't just obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations do.)



OK this is what I need explaining. Will the rulings actually affect my rating and rankings? Will quitting or joing the UN seriously affect one's status? If I want to be a ruthless dictator or don't give a hoot about civil rights, or don't care for many of the passed resolutions, is my best option to quit? Or if I want to be a human rights icon, is joining essencial? What is the real effect of resolutions on members, or is it pure RP?

U.N. resolutions WILL affect your rankings. If you want to be a ruthless dictator, then staying in the U.N. probably isn't the way to go. However if you don't want to be in the U.N. but still want high civil rights, etc., it's still possible to get those without joining.

but one big problem is that the response of UN is juz too slow...
i wanna join UN asap in fact but it hasn;t sent me any telegram yet!

Perhaps I missed the answer to this in the FAQ, but I couldn't find it if I did :wink:

I have joined a new region with only four members thus far. We have no UN members and therefore no delegates. I wish to join the UN and be that delegate, but I have no one to trade endorsements with or even to receive one. How do new regions, of all new nations, get a UN member and delegate?

Use this instead:

Past UN Resolutions (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_past_resolutions)
List of UN Proposals (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=Un_Proposal)
Make a Proposal (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_New_Proposal)Remember, 2 endorsements are required to do so.
The UN Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN)
A list of all regions and their delegates (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=list_regions)
How to write a UN proposal (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55117)

We were just informed that

"How to write a UN proposal (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55117)[/quote] "

does not exist. Can someone inform us what happened to this potentially informative link?

I have a question. If you join the UN, is it possible to back out later? Since you can only have one UN member nation per person, I'd like to have the option of being able to change which one of my countries is in the UN if need be.

I have a question. If you join the UN, is it possible to back out later? Since you can only have one UN member nation per person, I'd like to have the option of being able to change which one of my countries is in the UN if need be.

Yes, you can resign your nation from the UN and join another nation after it has been resigned.

Wow. The first sticky by an intentionally deleted nation. :shock:

Although the owner of Geforce4 who wrote the sticky is different from the one who got himself IP banned fighting over it with two alter-aliases.

I have a question. If you join the UN, is it possible to back out later? Since you can only have one UN member nation per person, I'd like to have the option of being able to change which one of my countries is in the UN if need be.

Yes, you can resign your nation from the UN and join another nation after it has been resigned.
Give it 24 hours between nations though.

does not exist. Can someone inform us what happened to this potentially informative link?

Looks like it got purged... I'll get it put into the archive later.

I have a question. If you join the UN, is it possible to back out later? Since you can only have one UN member nation per person, I'd like to have the option of being able to change which one of my countries is in the UN if need be.

Yes, you can resign your nation from the UN and join another nation after it has been resigned.
Give it 24 hours between nations though.
Okay, thank you! :D

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what if a regions UN Delegate almost never, well hardly ever, votes in the UN Resolution thingys? is there any way that they can be "booted" from being UN Delegate?

If enough UN Member nations in your region withdraw their endorsements of that nation, they'll no longer be the Delegate.

The thing is... they are the only UN member in our region (there's 3 UN members...) that has an endorsement, and the person who endorsed our UN Rep is their best friend, so I strongly doubt they will withdraw their endorsement. Also, our region is made up of people that go to my school, I am the only girl in our region, and the guys tend to stick together, so there’s no way that I could become UN Rep. I think that out of the 5 of us, I am the one most suited to the position because I am the one that’s online the most, and I make sure that I almost always vote in the UN Resolutions. I stated this in our message board, and this is what one person said: “Bharbolaide you can not be the Un representative because... well, you talk too much and therefore that makes you not suitable for the job.” And, that was the same person that endorsed our UN Rep. Omneg… now I sound like a whiney little brat that wants to get its own way all the time!

Use this instead:

Past UN Resolutions (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_past_resolutions)
List of UN Proposals (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=Un_Proposal)
Make a Proposal (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_New_Proposal)Remember, 2 endorsements are required to do so.
The UN Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN)
A list of all regions and their delegates (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=list_regions)
How to write a UN proposal (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55117)

I still can't access these. I've tried the sets on both the 1st and 3rd page.

The thing is... they are the only UN member in our region (there's 3 UN members...) that has an endorsement, and the person who endorsed our UN Rep is their best friend, so I strongly doubt they will withdraw their endorsement. Also, our region is made up of people that go to my school, I am the only girl in our region, and the guys tend to stick together, so there?s no way that I could become UN Rep. I think that out of the 5 of us, I am the one most suited to the position because I am the one that?s online the most, and I make sure that I almost always vote in the UN Resolutions. I stated this in our message board, and this is what one person said: ?Bharbolaide you can not be the Un representative because... well, you talk too much and therefore that makes you not suitable for the job.? And, that was the same person that endorsed our UN Rep. Omneg? now I sound like a whiney little brat that wants to get its own way all the time!

I suggest you have two options:

1. move regions. find one where your particular talents will be better appreciated. They sound like the brats BTW

2. fight. don't let up, keep on at them, encourage more people (preferably ones who might support you) to join NS and your region, endores a different UN member (when there is one), etc, etc, etc, Never Say Die, Never Surender.

Just choose whichever option sounds more fun :D

I created a UN resolution guide so everybody check it out!!!
:D :D :D :D :D

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=118812.

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I took the long list of proposals that have been passed and simplified it, I got rid of a bunch of needless filler words and got down to the nitty gritty laws, which I then put in categories. So really its not just a cut and paste job.

I have created a list of guidelines to when you should vote for a proposal, and when you shouldn't.
I know it seems obvious, but meany people seem to be confused and vote "for" everything.

You can find the topic HERE (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122232)

When to vote against a proposal:

If it is a proposal which you feel is not a matter for the UN, such as one which affects national laws, and should not be dealt with on an international level

case and point, this proposal is one that goes way outside the bounds of the UN. It effects not international relations but rather the national interests of one country. It is of very poor judgement to vote for this proposal as it is not an international issue.

a resolution that is passed affects one's nation by the next day right, the same applies if one resigns?

I have some endorsements from other nations.

If I move to another region do those endorsements come with me or do they disappear?

If they disappear will they reappear when I move back to my original region or will I have to be endorsed all over again?

BuB

I have some endorsements from other nations.

If I move to another region do those endorsements come with me or do they disappear?

They disappear. You can only be endorsed by nations in the same region.

If they disappear will they reappear when I move back to my original region or will I have to be endorsed all over again?

Once they're gone, they're gone. You need to be re-endorsed to get them back.

Once they're gone, they're gone. You need to be re-endorsed to get them back.
No, as long as you move back before the update you regain them.

Once they're gone, they're gone. You need to be re-endorsed to get them back.
No, as long as you move back before the update you regain them.
So how often and at what time of day (in terms of GMT) is the Update?


Dan

So how often and at what time of day (in terms of GMT) is the Update?


Dan
Twice a day, but only the morningone affects the UN.
The morning one runs for several hours around around 5 or 6 EST, IIRC
I'm never on then, so I'm not really sure exactly.

Could a mod please un-sticky this, then re-sticky it under my name? I'd like to edit it some, but since Klamath got my nation deleted (geforce4), I can't.

Could a mod please un-sticky this, then re-sticky it under my name? I'd like to edit it some, but since Klamath got my nation deleted (geforce4), I can't.
Seconded.

To be honest, I've been wondering why you hadn't done this. I wasn't sure if you were bored with it, or though that it was finished, or what.

Distinguish colleagues,

we would likte to ask the moderators or anybody who is competent to answer whether all past resolution apply to all UN members or only that which were passed after we joined the UN. We have received different comments by different members about that issue. We would be pleased to sort out this issue, because otherwise we are in a legal limbo and don´t know which UN resolutions actually apply to us.

Sincerely yours

Marc Smith, president of Kybernetia

Only for Role-Play purposes.

Use this instead:

Past UN Resolutions (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_past_resolutions)
List of UN Proposals (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=Un_Proposal)
Make a Proposal (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_New_Proposal)Remember, 2 endorsements are required to do so.
The UN Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN)
A list of all regions and their delegates (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=list_regions)
How to write a UN proposal (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55117)

I still can't access these. I've tried the sets on both the 1st and 3rd page.

It still not working !

Do anybody have the correct URL ??