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the un is growing into a massive liberal plan at global domination. They over tax your gdp and slow economic growth. making massive entitlement programs for a small group. right wingers and fascist take over the old fashion way. we kick you in the head with nukes and tanks. They say they dont want war yet propose un resolutions that defy youy national laws. The UN is anti democracy as it caters to the democrats and socialists. Most right wing conservative nations are not members due to there will to not be governed by socialist pigs sitting in the un. stop making resolutions that mess with how nations govern internally. instead make laws about broad issues that only help nations.

*And the people's flag is deepest red....*

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uproot that nasty weed. the un is a joke. americans pay more than half the cost of it. we should get half the votes. we owne the world and have a gdp that owns all. uproot that weed indeed.

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take this u jerky liberal. let me know what u are!

I love the posters. i have them on my very own wall

TG from Fascist might:

'Dude, your a sad liberal. quit whining and being a socialist pig.'

To which i say:

Learn your 'you'res and yours' and 'quit whining and being a fascist pig'.

U R AN IDIOT! LIBERAL IS FAR FROM ME. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE U LIBERAL TRASH

Learn to spell.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 5.75
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.92

HERE I AM NUKKA!

A most interesting "conversation". :lol:

Mister Fascist, you and all those like you are more than welcome in the U.N. In fact, if we get enough of you then perhaps you can even take over the U.N.

As to your statement about the U.N. being non-democratic because of all the democratic sociolists in it, well, that's the point. The majority of Governments hold these views, therefore, these views have more power. That's Democrasy.

I agree the U.N. has problems, but as a whole it works. The best thing about it being, it's not compulsory.

take this u jerky liberal. let me know what u are!

I don't take orders from you, you ritalin-popping flag-waving Bush-whore.

And you wonder why I quit the bleeding-heart UN...
I agree with you, though. Facsist might has to go.
And I'm just the cow to do it...

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take this u jerky liberal. let me know what u are!

I love the posters. i have them on my very own wall

I'm uh one square up from the bottom-right corner (Libertarian Right, which is actually full Libertarian in conventional political tests).

The UN is anti democracy as it caters to the democrats and socialists.
No comment. :roll:

I'm uh one square up from the bottom-right corner (Libertarian Right, which is actually full Libertarian in conventional political tests).
I'm about two squares up from the bottom-left corner. And I have a perfect economic score of -10.
Anarcho-Communism all the way!

The difference between right-wing and left-wing libertarians is simple:
The right-wingers want to free people from state oppression, only so that they can be made slaves to all-powerful corporations.
The left-wingers want to free people from state AND corporate oppression. All power to the people!

the difference is this. the right wing want to have more economic freedom and less social. the left wingers want the opposite being less economic freedom and more social. you must be poor since u think that having more freedom with your money is a bad thing. grab two pennies and rub them together u socialist jew

Your economic "freedom" leads to oppression and slavery.

No thanks.

im the big bear and i have killed lots of things and have much food :)

u r the weak small stupid bear and are hungry due to not killing anything.

I should give you some of my food since we are both bears?
no way. if u cant hunt then go off and die.

in the real world u steal from people. true economic freedom is not over taxing poeple that are successful. if u are poor then go and die. if u dont get enough pay then get a degree. get some knowledge. dont hate m,e for being what u wish you were.

True economic freedom is when THE PEOPLE are in control of the economy, not a handful of rich corporate overlords.

Right-wing "freedom" applies only to the rich.

the people do control the money. 2/3 of gdp is consumer spending

the people buy from the companies u idiot

giving people equal income causes inflation and makes people worse off than before.

it looks like the people have spoken. the un is under the left's control. leave that un now!

A rising wave raises all ships, both large and small. Ronold reagan :)

A rising wave raises all ships, both large and small. Ronold reagan :)

"We should thank God for a man like Hitler, who, if nothing else will help us fight Bolshevism."
--(Of all newspapers) The New York Times, in 1937

Amazing how people's attitudes change over time.

Fascist might I am right-wing econmically but I consider you a whiny little anoying person who's country is tiny and weak and stands no chance in fighting anybody but is still trying to take over the world.

Two UN members could invade your region and topple it.

Plus "fascist" is spelled wrong in your country name.

So is Ronald

You'd have thought he'd taken notice, at least from Ronald McDonald

Well, about the right mental age isn't it?

"We should thank God for a man like Hitler, who, if nothing else will help us fight Bolshevism."
--(Of all newspapers) The New York Times, in 1937

Amazing how people's attitudes change over time.
Of course. Your right-wing capitalist buddies used to LOVE Hitler in the 1930's, because they saw nazism as their last hope to save their stolen wealth and their immoral system from the seemingly unstoppable hand of justice. Communism was about to kick your ass. But WW2 saved you... for now.

We should also remember that as soon as Hitler began invading western countries, the capitalists instantly forgot about how much they used to love him, and made him public enemy number one. After all, what good was an anti-communist thug if he was starting to get anti-capitalist too?

i took that damn test, and they said i was slightly to the left and slightly liberterian. That really does suck, as i though that cos i'm always arguing with the liberials in here that i'd most probably be right wing, authoriterian.

Oh well. I'm guessing that you really have to have some extreme veiws to be right wing :(

"We should thank God for a man like Hitler, who, if nothing else will help us fight Bolshevism."
--(Of all newspapers) The New York Times, in 1937

Amazing how people's attitudes change over time.
Of course. Your right-wing capitalist buddies used to LOVE Hitler in the 1930's, because they saw nazism as their last hope to save their stolen wealth and their immoral system from the seemingly unstoppable hand of justice. Communism was about to kick your ass. But WW2 saved you... for now.

We should also remember that as soon as Hitler began invading western countries, the capitalists instantly forgot about how much they used to love him, and made him public enemy number one. After all, what good was an anti-communist thug if he was starting to get anti-capitalist too?

The New York Times is a pretty liberal newspaper; it's always been.

I do love brainless invertebrate trolls. They make for a jovial thread-watching experience.

The New York Times is a pretty liberal newspaper; it's always been.
That doesn't change the fact that it is a capitalist newspaper, from the world's leading capitalist country.

While the capitalists were still wondering in the 30's whether Hitler was on their side or not, German communists actively FOUGHT TO THE DEATH to bring down the nazi regime. Without any support, they failed and got slaughtered.

"Smash the nazi wherever you find him."
- KPD (German Communist Party) motto

The New York Times is a pretty liberal newspaper; it's always been.
That doesn't change the fact that it is a capitalist newspaper, from the world's leading capitalist country.

While the capitalists were still wondering in the 30's whether Hitler was on their side or not, German communists actively FOUGHT TO THE DEATH to bring down the nazi regime. Without any support, they failed and got slaughtered.

"Smash the nazi wherever you find him."
- KPD (German Communist Party) motto8

And of course, those Cossacks and noncommunists in Russia, they fought to the death and were slaughtered by Stalin.

im the big bear and i have killed lots of things and have much food :)

u r the weak small stupid bear and are hungry due to not killing anything.

I should give you some of my food since we are both bears?
no way. if u cant hunt then go off and die.

in the real world u steal from people. true economic freedom is not over taxing poeple that are successful. if u are poor then go and die. if u dont get enough pay then get a degree. get some knowledge. dont hate m,e for being what u wish you were.

:shock: :x :shock:

My god man. I consider myself a moderate with right-wing tendencies, but you're just embarrassing yourself and me and right-wingers all over the world with your bear stories.

And of course, those Cossacks and noncommunists in Russia, they fought to the death and were slaughtered by Stalin.
And since Stalin was an authoritarian pig and a filthy traitor to the communist cause, I really don't see your point.

Tens of thousands of communists were also killed by Stalin, including many old veterans of the October Revolution.

The Principality of Dolphin-Lovers has a proud Liberal tradition, as do I.

Yes, we admit (and indeed voted) that the liberals control the UN. This is because we are in the majority, and it is a democracy.

Liberals believe in freedom, not fascist opression.

Alan Griffith, Prime Minister of the Principality of Dolphin-Lovers, Party Leader of the Dolphin-Friendly LIBERAL Alliance.

Long live Republicans and conservatives!!!

And of course, those Cossacks and noncommunists in Russia, they fought to the death and were slaughtered by Stalin.
And since Stalin was an authoritarian pig and a filthy traitor to the communist cause, I really don't see your point.

Tens of thousands of communists were also killed by Stalin, including many old veterans of the October Revolution.

And thousands of loyal Nazis were killed by Hitler. Hitler destroyed the leadership of the SA (stormtroopers) during the Night of Long Knives, he killed several thousand people, many of whom were loyal to him, after the July 20th plot failed, et cetera. That still makes him a Nazi.

im the big bear and i have killed lots of things and have much food :)

u r the weak small stupid bear and are hungry due to not killing anything.

I should give you some of my food since we are both bears?
no way. if u cant hunt then go off and die.

in the real world u steal from people. true economic freedom is not over taxing poeple that are successful. if u are poor then go and die. if u dont get enough pay then get a degree. get some knowledge. dont hate m,e for being what u wish you were.
So, in other words, "might makes right"...

Well, there's just one little problem with this attitude of yours: What if we "small bears" get together and kick your ass? After all, if you don't respect our right to live, why should we respect YOUR right to live? What if instead of listening to you and dying, we just blow your brains out?

You see, that's the hypocrisy of fascism: You say that the strong should oppress and enslave the weak, but you forget that the "weak" can UNITE and become stronger than you. If you want to kill the poor, why should the poor listen to you? Why should they ACCEPT your muderous system?

You want class warfare? Fine. Just remember that we vastly outnumber you. Prepare to die.

In UNITY lies strength. Workers of the world, UNITE!

And thousands of loyal Nazis were killed by Hitler. Hitler destroyed the leadership of the SA (stormtroopers) during the Night of Long Knives, he killed several thousand people, many of whom were loyal to him, after the July 20th plot failed, et cetera. That still makes him a Nazi.
Of course! The reason why Stalin wasn't a communist is because his economic system wasn't socialism/communism, not because he killed thousands of communists. The fact that he killed thousands of communists is just another of his crimes.

What is communism? It is a system with no state and no private property, in which people live freely in a communal society. The Soviet Union definately had a state, and a powerful one at that. Therefore stalinism wasn't communism.

What is socialism? It is the intermediate stage between capitalism and communism, in which all means of production are the public property of all the people. Was that the case in the Soviet Union? Definately not. The means of production were the property of the state, and the people had no say in what the state did with them. Therefore stalinism wasn't socialism, either. (In order for the Soviet Union to have been socialist, it would have needed to be a democracy. That way, the state would have controlled the means of production, and the people would have controlled the state. So, by transitivity, the people would have controlled the means of production)

In conclusion, stalinism was NOT communism and it was NOT socialism. Therefore it was a completely different and separate system, and Stalin was a traitor to the communist cause.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

I hate to point this out, but it seems that everyone here is using the terms "nazi" and "fascist" interchangeably. They are different things.

fascism is a governmental system in which the government controls or highly regulates industry and finance. It is also characterized by being a single party and nationalistic of government.

The Nazi Party (also known as National Socialism) describes the german political movement within the NSDAP (National Socialist German Worker's Party) which started in 1920. It advocated a fascist type of government, one which incorporated the concept of the superiority of the Aryan race, as well as militarism which was characteristic of the prussian state.

And I think it is funny that Nazi boy wants to kill all the socialists...since he is one.

In theory, a fascist government would be something like the Roman Empire.

The nazis called themselves "socialists" in order to get the support of the working class. In reality, they were extreme conservatives with a deep hatred for socialism and communism. The whole reason why Hitler started WW2 in the first place was to "wipe communism off the face of the Earth". Six years later, he was dead and the red flag flew high over Berlin...

The nazis got to power by forming a coalition government with the German Conservatives, and they quickly abolished all trade unions and other workers' organizations. How "socialist" is that?

As for fascism, I say we let the fascists speak for themselves:

"Fascism should be called corporatism, as it represents the union between state and corporate power."
- Benito Mussolini

The nazis called themselves "socialists" in order to get the support of the working class. In reality, they were extreme conservatives with a deep hatred for socialism and communism. The whole reason why Hitler started WW2 in the first place was to "wipe communism off the face of the Earth". Six years later, he was dead and the red flag flew high over Berlin...

The nazis got to power by forming a coalition government with the German Conservatives, and they quickly abolished all trade unions and other workers' organizations. How "socialist" is that?

As for fascism, I say we let the fascists speak for themselves:

"Fascism should be called corporatism, as it represents the union between state and corporate power."
- Benito Mussolini

I know that quote, it wasn't Benito Mussolini, it was a New York Times editor who wrote the article forty some years after Mussolini was dead.

Well, Mussolini DID build the "Hall of fasces and corporations"...

U R AN IDIOT! LIBERAL IS FAR FROM ME. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE U LIBERAL TRASHI'm not very good at translating raving lunatic, but he never called you a liberal.

I believe he was speaking "Brainless Troll", which is an entirely different dialect.

I believe he was speaking "Brainless Troll", which is an entirely different dialect.

You know what's awesome? The little region the little Nazi boys created - you know, the ones who hide their swastika drawings from Mom when she comes to tuck them in at night has nations with names like:

- The Dictatorship of The Furher - Ha! Can't even spell the title of their dead moron leader...

- The Dictatorship of The Thrid Reich - Oh no! We're all afraid of the THRID reich!

- The Colony of Vichey France - This is how I know they're American children: No knowledge of geography, or they'd know how to spell "Vichy".

- The Oppressed Peoples of Jennifergovernmentsuck - And yet, here you are...

- The Empire of Facsist might - Haha! "Facsist". Watch out, I hear the Connumists are mad at you!


Idiots, all.

Well, Mussolini DID build the "Hall of fasces and corporations"...

Well, their defintiion of corporatism included things like heavy tarrifs and corporate subsidies, neither of which would exist in a lassiez-faire system.

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take this u jerky liberal. let me know what u are!

I love the posters. i have them on my very own wall

That is a strange test. Half the answers contradict others.

Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.41

I'm just left of center. On the graph, 1 notch.

- The Dictatorship of The Thrid Reich - Oh no! We're all afraid of the THRID reich!

At this point I don't think there is a "Third Reich." If anything, it would be a Fouth Reich...

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At this point I don't think there is a "Third Reich."

What are you talking about? What do you mean by that? There was defenitly a third reich, hell it's the one that just about everyone knows about. I am guessing you knew there was a third reich, so what exactly did you mean by what you said there?

The Dictatorship of The Thrid Reich - Oh no! We're all afraid of the THRID reich!

It's always fun to make fun of the people who are prone to typo's isn't it? All your examples are just as stupid as your trying to make WN's look. Everything you put up there is revolving around the same kind of idiot humor that may be funny to you, as well as the 13 year olds here. The only one that was remotely cleaver was the jennifergovernmentsucks one, but that is not just used in regions like that. You see them all over the place. Saying that only "little nazi boys" have a country name like that is really stupid, because it's obviously the majority of people with names like that are not them.

The New York Times is a pretty liberal newspaper; it's always been.

That's really not true. The idea of a "liberal media" is an utter myth. Look at what the Republicans get away with (e.g. lying to the world and worse, their own people, about why they're killing thousands of Iraqis at the cost of their own citizens' lives) compared to the way they roasted the Democrats over something much, much more minor (Lewinski), something that didn't kill anyone...

I hate to point this out, but it seems that everyone here is using the terms "nazi" and "fascist" interchangeably. They are different things...

The Nazi Party (also known as National Socialism) describes the german political movement within the NSDAP (National Socialist German Worker's Party) which started in 1920. It advocated a fascist type of government, one which incorporated the concept of the superiority of the Aryan race...

OK, so you're saying the Nazis WEREN'T fascists, but then you say they wanted a fascist government... Hm. Strange, that your so-called "socialist" Nazis would advocate a fascist government, isn't it?

OK, so Fascist doesn't = Nazi, but using your brain will reveal that Nazi = Fascist.

It's always fun to make fun of the people who are prone to typo's isn't it? All your examples are just as stupid as your trying to make WN's look. Everything you put up there is revolving around the same kind of idiot humor that may be funny to you, as well as the 13 year olds here. The only one that was remotely cleaver was the jennifergovernmentsucks one, but that is not just used in regions like that. You see them all over the place. Saying that only "little nazi boys" have a country name like that is really stupid, because it's obviously the majority of people with names like that are not them.

First of all...
"as stupid as your trying to make WN's look" There's a difference between "your" and "you're".
"that was remotely cleaver" I didn't think anything I wrote was in any way like a big metal hatchety thing. Please explain.
"stupid, because it's obviously the majority of people with names like that are not them" This made no sense at all. PLEASE explain.


Secondly, you're a giant idiot. Possibly the greatest of them all.

At this point I don't think there is a "Third Reich."

What are you talking about? What do you mean by that? There was defenitly a third reich, hell it's the one that just about everyone knows about. I am guessing you knew there was a third reich, so what exactly did you mean by what you said there?



There is a HUGE difference that IS and WAS. I believe I said there isn't one now. If there was a "Reich," it couldn't be a third one. It would have to be a fourth one. . .

the difference is this. the right wing want to have more economic freedom and less social. the left wingers want the opposite being less economic freedom and more social. you must be poor since u think that having more freedom with your money is a bad thing. grab two pennies and rub them together u socialist jew
Umm... :shock:
FLAME!

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[ooc: Can I post this back at http://www.democraticunderground.com?]

Two UN members could invade your region and topple it.

Good idea... :twisted:

We are situationists.

Fascism one of the many opposing forces to anarchy, which is the actual liberation of human potential for power and strength. What is not understood by the majority of Fascists is its root in dependency on parent figures. A Fascist government is not about the personal freedom or liberation of any individual. It is about choosing the acts of the populace for them; it is about telling the people what to do. And so, it is usually desired by cowards who are afraid of making thier own decisions and so favor the government to do it for them. Meanwhile, other little boy fascists lust for power over others for the same reason: so they can't be criticized for thier decisions. Totalitarian governments- fascist, capitalist and communist- are all based on this principle. That is why, as Situationists, we believe only in limitations which deny no freedom to any other living thing. Why? Because the gross excersize of power is used by the weak; because violence is an easy strategy of the stupid, and because we, as human beings, are far beyond the tribal structure of human societies where who holds the stronger weapon is the victor. You want to see difficult? Try bridging a gap between parties who despise each other. Then you will see real power and real strength emerge- as opposed to the monkey strength of stick and fire brandishing control by force.

uproot that nasty weed. the un is a joke. americans pay more than half the cost of it. we should get half the votes. we owne the world and have a gdp that owns all. uproot that weed indeed.

Bush is a joke.

He better not use his "Nucular" weapons or the EU will be really peeved.

I vote number 1. Reword: We are everywhere, making life very uncomfortable for you facists.

I am English and I am proud to be a true red blooded socialist (and not one of those a**elicking centrist neo thatcherite labourites either). My family lost five of its number in WW2 fighting to destroy facist scum. Three were a woman and two pre school children killed by a V2 balistic missile. (and yes I know all about dresden and hamburg etc - they were tradgidies that shouldn't have happened either).

My grandfather forght local and national government elections both before and after the war on a communist ticket. I am proud to take on the beliefs he stood for and so will fight to the death to maitain his standards and destroy the hate based system of facism no matter what flag it hides behind.

First of all...
"as stupid as your trying to make WN's look" There's a difference between "your" and "you're".
"that was remotely cleaver" I didn't think anything I wrote was in any way like a big metal hatchety thing. Please explain.

Takes a great man to be able to find my spelling errors/wrong word usage. I must give you an applaus (have fun with that). You get the point of what I'm saying, and I'll say it again. Nothing you are saying is remotely clever (happy? ). Have you seen anyone mention anything about it being funny? No, they all tend to...you know... ignore it, and I bet a lot of people do the same thing to you as a whole.

"stupid, because it's obviously the majority of people with names like that are not them" This made no sense at all. PLEASE explain.
Most people with names like nationstatesucks are not nazi's, WN, or whatever you would like to call them. I would have thought someone as mentally capable as yourself would have been able to figure that out.

Secondly, you're a giant idiot. Possibly the greatest of them all.

Wow, that sure means a lot coming from you. I'd get the same feeling walking down the street and having a retarded bus driving past me with all the kids inside calling me stupid.

i don't know how the UN could be under control of both the Socialists and the liberals, those groups oppose each other. only in a country with an extreme right-wing facist goverment, could those two groups take the same side!

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thieves...THIEVES!!!!


Holy Jehova on a freakin' dune buggy, people...Is spell check really that hard to use?

a liberal is a f**n socialist. same thing. a whiny left wing midget that steals from hardworking people to give it to minorities

Liberals drink WAY too much beer period.

From what I've read so far, this topic seems to be the social equivilant of brain-droppings. We have moronic racists who can't spell their message out without hold down the caps lock, for fear we might blink and miss it. We have pesky socialists, who seem to think that leaving a couple people in a box for 30 centuries, and then letting them control all aspects of the government is a "good thing". We have bleeding liberals, who can't see past their noses to the future, and think all the world's problems can be solved by holding hands in front of a charging tank.

Did I miss anyone?

How dare the UN force me to give my citizens free education!!! I need more money to beer and whores!!!

We also have a plethora of reactionary wannabe-conservatives who wouldn't know the meaning of "liberal" or "conservative" if the two slapped them in the head with a dead fish.

OK, since we all know this guy's dumb, I think it'd be fun to see him try to think about what he says:


the un is growing into a massive liberal plan at global domination. They over tax your gdp and slow economic growth. making massive entitlement programs for a small group. .

Explain this. How do "liberals", which you have yet to define, "over tax" a "gdp"? How do they slow economic growth? Who's the "small group"?

right wingers and fascist take over the old fashion way. we kick you in the head with nukes and tanks. .

And why is this better? I think I'd rather have my "gdp" "over taxed" than to be kicked in the head with a nuke!

Follow up question: How do you kick someone with a nuke? Or a tank?

They say they dont want war yet propose un resolutions that defy youy national laws. .

What's the connection between wanting/not wanting war and passing resolutions? I haven't seen any resolutions to start wars, which is the only possible connection there is.

The UN is anti democracy as it caters to the democrats and socialists. .

Yeah, I hate how it caters to democrats by being all... democratic and stuff. Listening to others' opinions, passing resolutions by vote. What jerks.

Most right wing conservative nations are not members due to there will to not be governed by socialist pigs sitting in the un. stop making resolutions that mess with how nations govern internally. instead make laws about broad issues that only help nations.

If you're not part of the UN, you have no reason to whine - their resolutions don't apply to you. If you don't want the UN to affect you, don't be part of the UN. Don't post in the UN forum. Dweeb,

The UN is an irrelevant organisation by lefties, of lefties for lefties.

May the UN die a slow and painful death!

Yeah, whatever.

I knew he wouldn't be able to back up his ridiculous stupidity with thought.

the un is a waste. it is for weak nations that whine all the time. go build some weapons and kick tail. f**k the un.

http://www.politicalcompass.org


take this u jerky liberal. let me know what u are!

I love the posters. i have them on my very own wall

I got a -9.54 and -9.5 last time I took it. Do you want any more?

I got (-1.63, -1.95) on that Political Compass. Leaning a little toward a planned, controlled economy and social freedoms, but still close enough to the middle of the road to lean toward the side with the most logical solution. :) I think it describes me well.

Far left wing libertarians in the UN? Never. Wait, that could be sarcasm. Yes it is definatly sarcasm.

the un is a waste. it is for weak nations that whine all the time. go build some weapons and kick tail. f**k the un.

So quit.

You still have yet to explain your original message of stupidity, and I'm not letting you off the hook that easily.

I came out more liberal and anarchic than Nelson Mandela, Ghandi and the Dali Lama. :D

dear facist might
do you actualy know the definitions of the word's "liberal" and "socialist" a liberal is simply someone who belives that a larger goverment and more goverment control. a socialist is someone who adhears to the political philosiphy of Lenin which said that a utopian society could only be achived through a revolution that destroyed the distinctions between social classes then a "rule of the proletairiat" or rule by the laborers whould result. of course socialism didn't work china showed that and vietnam showed that and the USSR showed that but I think that you need to be informed of what you say.

P.S try not to cuss as much. take my example (you will notice i did not use the words F**k H**l D**n B***h or C**t) or those of your beloved Gorge Bush, Pat Buchanan and Adolf Hitler. please use logic in the future even uninformed logic, even pulled out of your a*s lie logic just pretend you know what your talking about.

P.P.S i'm not a socialist so don't call me one i study vietnamese history in school and so know a bit about it

P.P.P.S you know what the difference between democrats and republicans is? NOTHING!

P.P.P.P.S of course the UN is in liberal hands thats because the conservitive international orginizations known as the EU and NATO and until recently The Warsaw Pact counter ballance it

P.P.P.P.P.S wait, did you mean the UN in nationstates, well thats liberal for two reasons 1) most Moderates and Independants vote liberal 2) hate to burst your bubble buddy but LIBERALS ARE RIGHT!!! :D

Im poor, and conservitive.
Basically thier is no LIBERAL they're all just SOCIALIST who have a bone in the ass cause others may have more than they do. They hate success, demand that they be babied, hate the unborn, hate religion, and despise anyone who doesnt.
It's like this folks, The left feels if you have more than someone else you had to cheat, lie, and keep someone else down to get it. I'm conservative because I believe Americans are smart enough and strong enough to do better w/o a lot of goverment and that you shouldn't punish others who are successful. If you watch the national democratic party debate it's all about hate and no solutions. Basically these people live in fear of those who actually want to make it on thier own merits.
Im glad they're here though. There a good barometer of what not to do.

Don't gravedig old topics Furgetaboutitstan.

*does the lockomotion*

--The Flightless Lockopotamus--