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I propose that the UN legalize prostitution. I proposed this because in our nations there are those who would go into this kind of work rather it be legal or not. I think if we still have this proffession out there instead of criminalizing it we bring it under government control and tax it like any other occupation.

President Elvin Holloway

***hm... methinks I should just copy and paste this reply whenever somebody makes a post like this, my response is always the same.***

Why can't the leaders of the member nations make up their own minds as to if they want to legalize prostitution or not? If I make it illegal in my own nation how does that effect yours? If my decision on this topic in my own nation has absolutely no effect at all on yours, then why should you be able to tell me what to do?

This kind of proposal is out of UN jurisdiction

Then I suggest you legalize it in your country...no reason to make a UN resolution of it though (and against the view about role of UN for many people).

Indeed, this would be yet another thing being proposed that exceeds the scope of the UN.

This would have to be up to the governing body of ever separate nation on how to handle prostitution.

*takes back power from the UN*

I won't be subject to such a thing. Let me decide whether I want the loose women of my country getting paid or not.

:shock: And men, in a lot of cases...

Listen, pal, if we can't outlaw it, you sure as hell can't legalize it.

Indeed, this would be yet another thing being proposed that exceeds the scope of the UN.

This would have to be up to the governing body of ever separate nation on how to handle prostitution.

Quite true. Instead of trying to handle this question through a proposal, why not contribute an issue about this topic? That way every nation could decide on its own how to handle this sort of problem.

The UN is only good for deciding about very general problems, and therefore we should not submit proposals like "outlaw pedophilia" or "legalize prostitution" - but issues about these topics would be great, and since we have the opportunity to create issues on our own, why shouldn't we just do so?

-Lianfearel en Areth Luin i'Kiranesti,
Empress of the Sartherinesti and Kiranesti Elves

:shock: And men, in a lot of cases...

too true *shakes head*

While i agree that legalizing prostitution is up to individual nations, outlawing pedophilia should be enforced everywhere. Prostitution involving adults who can make up their own minds and and make their own choices, but children?? Children too young too decide things regarding sexual activies, not knowing the risks or disease and such, should be banned.

The UN is only good for deciding about very general problems, and therefore we should not submit proposals like "outlaw pedophilia" or "legalize prostitution" - but issues about these topics would be great, and since we have the opportunity to create issues on our own, why shouldn't we just do so?

-Lianfearel en Areth Luin i'Kiranesti,
Empress of the Sartherinesti and Kiranesti Elves

While i agree that legalizing prostitution is up to individual nations, outlawing pedophilia should be enforced everywhere. Prostitution involving adults who can make up their own minds and and make their own choices, but children?? Children too young too decide things regarding sexual activies, not knowing the risks of disease and such, should be banned.

This runs into some major sovereignty issues. Legalize prostitution in your own country, but don't make others do it. :evil:

While i agree that legalizing prostitution is up to individual nations, outlawing pedophilia should be enforced everywhere. Prostitution involving adults who can make up their own minds and and make their own choices, but children?? Children too young too decide things regarding sexual activies, not knowing the risks of disease and such, should be banned.

While that is a lovely notion, and even I will admit that I voted "FOR" that resolution - the UN is not able to enforce such a law. The UN cannot usurp the governments of its member nations. Yes, pedophilia is wrong -but it is not the UNs responsibilty to outlaw it. The UN does not have that kind of authority.

While i agree that legalizing prostitution is up to individual nations, outlawing pedophilia should be enforced everywhere. Prostitution involving adults who can make up their own minds and and make their own choices, but children?? Children too young too decide things regarding sexual activies, not knowing the risks or disease and such, should be banned.

You're no soldier, just a dickless overprotective condescending mollycoddling c*cksucker. I was a child once and I entered MUTUALLY CONSENTING sexual relations with adults from the age of 7, these relationships belonged to some of the most happiest years of my life. How DARE you speak on my behalf in saying that I was (in hind sight) "too young to decide things regarding sexual activities" :x

Outlawing prostitution is nothing but a blatant violation of civil rights, plain and simple. :x Having said this, I believe that these decisions should ultimately be left up to the autonomy of individual nations rather than the UN which I do not recognize the legitimacy of.

We are amused and shocked by the responses we have recieved on this proposal. We feel that a lot of the UN's resolutions have taken the sovereignty of your individual nations away from it's leadership. We do agree that we should make the matter an issue, but we will not withdraw the proposal.

The People of Clockwork Isle 8)

I was a child once and I entered MUTUALLY CONSENTING sexual relations with adults from the age of 7, these relationships belonged to some of the most happiest years of my life. How DARE you speak on my behalf in saying that I was (in hind sight) "too young to decide things regarding sexual activities" :x

Well, Im relieved to know that you were, in fact, a child once. And if, since you actually were a child at one point in your life, able to make decisions regarding the issue of sexual relationships, then I applaud you. I still stand by my opinion, however, that most children at the age of, lets say 7, have not been educated in nor know the possible consequences in engaging in sexual activity.

I do, however, agree that outlawing ADULT(my nation views adults as 16yr+) prostitution is unlawful, and is allowed. Prostitutes must, however, be checked regularly for STD's, and if any are found, must inform all "customers" of any diseases they may have.

BUMP, bump bump it up

BUMP, bump bump it up

Please explain. :?

President Elvin Holloway

***hm... methinks I should just copy and paste this reply whenever somebody makes a post like this, my response is always the same.***

Why can't the leaders of the member nations make up their own minds as to if they want to legalize prostitution or not? If I make it illegal in my own nation how does that effect yours? If my decision on this topic in my own nation has absolutely no effect at all on yours, then why should you be able to tell me what to do?

This kind of proposal is out of UN jurisdiction

Fair enough (if a little predictable!) but what, in your view, is within the juristiction of the UN?

I personally agree with you on this one as it's very much a cultural issue.

Ablenkung legalised prostitution a long time ago but that's our business. Interestingly, since our enlightened social welfare programme virtually wiped out poverty and social delinquency in the 1980s and 1990s, there have been a lot less prostitutes on the street than there were when it was illegal in the miserable old days of starvation wages and inner city drug abuse.

While I don't see anything criminal in somebody using any part of their body to make a living, some cultures take a very different view, and the UN needs to accommodate them as well.

Prostitution should be legal everywhere. It is a big issue as it affects millions of people worldwide. If it is made legal, prostitutes will be safer and more cared for, and it will not encourage people to become pros, only help current ones.

Good Day.

The same arguments could be made for totally banning prostitution.

Again, this is not something that the UN should attempt to decide. What of forcing a nations hand in legalizing something that is forbidden due to their religious doctrine? Are you willing to take away their rights to make this a broadly legal entity?

Simply put, the UN should not seek to legalize prostitution.

If the UN wishes to encourage better civil rights for prostitues and encourage nations that have made it legal to afford proper benefits to prstitutes, that is fine. But we should not seek to broadly legalize prostitution.

BUMP, bump bump it up

Please explain. :?

President Elvin Holloway

please explain bumping?

bumpity BOOB

Yes, bumping...
:lol:

has been a Flatcaps reality for many years now and the benefits have been emmense. W etook this decision simply because we realised that no matter the amount of legislation brought in, the enterprising proffession found a way of continuing. This has been a fact of life since before civilisation began. So to the benefits.

1) We TAX it.

2) Registered workers only can practice it. (which cut down on benefit fraud)

3) Compulsory health checks. (We now have one of the lowest venerial disease rates in the developed world.)

4) Sex crimes dramatically reduced after legalisation. (by taking the shame away from it, people wern't becoming frustrated and repressed therfore becoming moree healthy ,balanced individuals.

5) Unemployment dropped. Work in the sex industry skyrocked and helped create jobs in other area's as well.

These and many more benefits becanme apparent almost overnight. But we did make mistakes, we didn't allow for the moral crusade that snowballed in the early days by not regulating it properly in controlled areas away from the high street. But we have learned and now have entire ministry dedicated to this one industry. :?

I believe Prostitution is a moral crime and should not be allowed, for the U.N to approve this would show, the U.N is run by disgusting people. The spread of HIV/AIDS would spread becuase of this, this should not be approved, world health, and morals would degrade.


Sincerly,


Prime Minister Hikaro Hakashi
------------------------------------------------
Head of Government of Democratic Re public of Kyotia

Oh, I get it. A bump takes it to the top. How clever :wink:

we will vote for support of legalizing prostitution only if the prostitutes will be required by law to aplly for business license and pay taxes.

we will vote for support of legalizing prostitution only if the prostitutes will be required by law to aplly for business license and pay taxes.

exactly, i dont think have prostitutes running around spreading disease is ok, but if its regulated, they go for checkups, have to pay income tax, then go ahead with it

Ursoria has legalised prostitution, subject to certain necessary health regulations. But we would be opposed to a United Nations resolution to that effect.

Member states should have the right to decide their own internal policies, except for matters that clearly affect the world as a whole. It is unfortunate that the U.N. is becoming a kind of super-state, depriving members of their rights to set their own policy.

Let's limit the U.N. to matters that cross national boundaries, and keep essential sovereignty where it belongs--in the individual members.

We are proposing that prostitutes recieve their check ups and all other applicable things. I don't understand the resistance to this bill.

Some people obviously have some stricter standards which they adhere to.

Prostitution is nothing more than exploitation, for this reason the UN has a duty to protect those who could potentially be exploited and ensure that prostitution is banned in all nations. This is not an issue of civil liberties except to the extent that all people should be free from exploitation.

When you willingly walk down the street selling your body to the highest bidder and people actually pay for it that is not exploitation.

Are you saying the UN should be a brothel?

Are you saying the UN should be a brothel?

Of course.

"Every government is a Parliament of Whores."
--PJ O'Rourke

Who gets to be the pimp?

Who gets to be the pimp?

Dubya of course

Who gets to be the pimp?

Dubya of course

That reminds me of the Rogaine commercial. "I'm not only the President; I'm also a client."

I'm just afraid he would be the ONLY client.

Who gets to be the pimp?

Dubya of course

That reminds me of the Rogaine commercial. "I'm not only the President; I'm also a client."

I'm just afraid he would be the ONLY client.

Tony Blair.... He's a socialist AND an imperialist, ech.

No, we are not saying the UN should be a brothel we are merely saying that if the threat of jail and other sanctions against prostitution have not been effective then we should legalize it and make money off of it. :roll:

No, we are not saying the UN should be a brothel we are merely saying that if the threat of jail and other sanctions against prostitution have not been effective then we should legalize it and make money off of it. :roll:

The UN should be a brothel. Its source of income could be prostitution and that way it wouldn't need to collect duties from its member countries.

The UN should be a brothel. Its source of income could be prostitution and that way it wouldn't need to collect duties from its member countries.

It does seem more profitable that way. Even if prostitution is illegal in all member nations, they can come to the UN.

The UN should be a brothel. Its source of income could be prostitution and that way it wouldn't need to collect duties from its member countries.

It does seem more profitable that way. Even if prostitution is illegal in all member nations, they can come to the UN.

Of course. AND we can sell excellent sniper positions to tabloids so they can film politicians using brothels, and make even MORE money that way!

They aren't using prostitutes. They are "on diplomatic missions" that are very important. :D

They aren't using prostitutes. They are "on diplomatic missions" that are very important. :D

"Of course". We should make this a resolution, LoL.

A resolution to increase Free Trade
Be it resolved that: The UN be converted into a brothel

They aren't using prostitutes. They are "on diplomatic missions" that are very important. :D

"Of course". We should make this a resolution, LoL.

A resolution to increase Free Trade
Be it resolved that: The UN be converted into a brothel

How many people do you think will actually read the process of deciding it into a proposal? (Y'know what we said) It is an interesting way to facilitate trade. Each nation can send a representative in the brothel. The brothel can be a branch government with equal voting rights. :D

YAY!

I proposed it. The title is "Parliament of Whores"

I think that may cause the world to end.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

:twisted:

The UN is so messed up already that turning it into a brothel wouldn't hurt anything.

Y'know, a place where you can bring your family....

If the whores are free, count me in...out,in,out,in,out,in,out..oooohhh.

So who will support this issue?

I support

So who will support this issue?

This issue or what it has become?

make it legal. If they get raped or killed it isnt my problem. Ok...it is but I dont care :D

I think prostitution should be definetly be legal because it would boost the economy if the government appointed pimps. A fraction of the money would go to the government and the rest to the prostitutes. These legal prostitutes will be protected so they wont have to worry about being raped or killed.

The UN should be a brothel. Its source of income could be prostitution and that way it wouldn't need to collect duties from its member countries.

That's funny, 'cause I had already figured that most of the UN member nations were whores anyway :lol:.


Five tons of flax,
Premier Halon

Someone should propose free Viagra for everyone.

That could be interesting.

*BUMP*

*bump* again

I propose that the UN legalize prostitution. I proposed this because in our nations there are those who would go into this kind of work rather it be legal or not. I think if we still have this proffession out there instead of criminalizing it we bring it under government control and tax it like any other occupation.

President Elvin Holloway

You call it an occupation? Have you heard of STD's?

Odd, this one is commonly viewed as well *cough* more horny males...

I propose that the UN legalize prostitution. I proposed this because in our nations there are those who would go into this kind of work rather it be legal or not. I think if we still have this proffession out there instead of criminalizing it we bring it under government control and tax it like any other occupation.

President Elvin Holloway

You call it an occupation? Have you heard of STD's?

Exactly why it needs to be regulated properly. Then the people who work in the industry can be tested regularly to minimise the risks of these diseases.

I propose that the UN legalize prostitution. I proposed this because in our nations there are those who would go into this kind of work rather it be legal or not. I think if we still have this proffession out there instead of criminalizing it we bring it under government control and tax it like any other occupation.

President Elvin Holloway

You call it an occupation? Have you heard of STD's?

Exactly why it needs to be regulated properly. Then the people who work in the industry can be tested regularly to minimise the risks of these diseases.

Exactly. If it is illegal there's no way you can get rid of STDs.

:roll: :roll: :roll: Can we discuss strictly the proposal and not whether or not the UN is a brothel house? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Anyway, While no longer being delegae after my moveance to the Atheist Empire, I still oppose this resolution. I'm all for the preservance of culture and as such this is a bad idea. Grant I legalized prostitution so the government didn't have to close down Geishas...

I down the resolution on the grounds of cultural preservance... I can care less about all hte fundementalist no count theocracies in the world....

HPEH James the Sorta-Elven
Premeir of Caras Galadon

:roll: :roll: :roll: Can we discuss strictly the proposal and not whether or not the UN is a brothel house? :roll: :roll: :roll:

HPEH James the Sorta-Elven
Premeir of Caras Galadon

Truthfully, I don't think we can. If the intent of this thread is not to make the UN into a brothel or something similar, then it doesn't have much place in the UN forum. It should be the individual nation that decides whether they want legal prostitution or not and not the place of the UN to force it upon them. The UN is supposed to be a neutral ground, making it external to seperate nations.

Otherwise, it makes prostitution mandatory.

I think that if one proposes something of this nature it is prehaps to much of a step forward for some. Perhaps I am looking to far into the future for some of you. I am sorry.

President Elvin Holloway :(

***hm... methinks I should just copy and paste this reply whenever somebody makes a post like this, my response is always the same.***

Why can't the leaders of the member nations make up their own minds as to if they want to legalize prostitution or not? If I make it illegal in my own nation how does that effect yours? If my decision on this topic in my own nation has absolutely no effect at all on yours, then why should you be able to tell me what to do?

This kind of proposal is out of UN jurisdiction

Fair enough (if a little predictable!) but what, in your view, is within the juristiction of the UN?

I personally agree with you on this one as it's very much a cultural issue.

Ablenkung legalised prostitution a long time ago but that's our business. Interestingly, since our enlightened social welfare programme virtually wiped out poverty and social delinquency in the 1980s and 1990s, there have been a lot less prostitutes on the street than there were when it was illegal in the miserable old days of starvation wages and inner city drug abuse.

While I don't see anything criminal in somebody using any part of their body to make a living, some cultures take a very different view, and the UN needs to accommodate them as well.

Just the same, some cultures ARE against prostitiution. Each individual nation needs to accommodate their own culture. If the UN presses cultural issues, someones fundamental beliefs are ALWAYS going to get trampled. UN resolutions controlling morality, racial issues, gender issues, and religion or MOST social issues are baaaaaad.

I agree with the majority, if I want that kinda stuff legal in my country then thats my own business. It doesn't affect any other county than my own, and thats all i gosta say. But if course i would need to keep them hoochies clean, so i would add a mandatory HIV/AIDS test evert month.

Blake Gattia :P

***hm... methinks I should just copy and paste this reply whenever somebody makes a post like this, my response is always the same.***

Why can't the leaders of the member nations make up their own minds as to if they want to legalize prostitution or not? If I make it illegal in my own nation how does that effect yours? If my decision on this topic in my own nation has absolutely no effect at all on yours, then why should you be able to tell me what to do?

This kind of proposal is out of UN jurisdiction

Fair enough (if a little predictable!) but what, in your view, is within the juristiction of the UN?

I personally agree with you on this one as it's very much a cultural issue.

Ablenkung legalised prostitution a long time ago but that's our business. Interestingly, since our enlightened social welfare programme virtually wiped out poverty and social delinquency in the 1980s and 1990s, there have been a lot less prostitutes on the street than there were when it was illegal in the miserable old days of starvation wages and inner city drug abuse.

While I don't see anything criminal in somebody using any part of their body to make a living, some cultures take a very different view, and the UN needs to accommodate them as well.

Just the same, some cultures ARE against prostitiution. Each individual nation needs to accommodate their own culture. If the UN presses cultural issues, someones fundamental beliefs are ALWAYS going to get trampled. UN resolutions controlling morality, racial issues, gender issues, and religion or MOST social issues are baaaaaad.

Well, just the same, those same cultures sometimes look away when it happens.

I, perhaps, surprisingly, support the legalization of prostitution.

***hm... methinks I should just copy and paste this reply whenever somebody makes a post like this, my response is always the same.***

Why can't the leaders of the member nations make up their own minds as to if they want to legalize prostitution or not? If I make it illegal in my own nation how does that effect yours? If my decision on this topic in my own nation has absolutely no effect at all on yours, then why should you be able to tell me what to do?

This kind of proposal is out of UN jurisdiction

I myself have put a proposal to the UN to make decisions like this one out of the control of UN, and solely in the control of the national leader, as some countries would legalize it and others leave it illegal. If you wanna know about the proposal, its called National Rights.

Then I suggest you legalize it in your country...no reason to make a UN resolution of it though (and against the view about role of UN for many people).
I agree with Earth God. You can legalize it in your country and others might follow your lead but most will not. It's awesome that you want to put your belifs to work, but trust me, there is no way in hell that this will be legalized.
AniVeinna :(

After hearing all concerns for and against, we think that this should be written up as an issue, but we are not good at this, so if one of you would like to take this idea and create an issue of it please do so.

While prostitution is legal in Ryhope, we strenuously object to the UN forcing its legalization on other member countries. After all, it's the illegality in other nations that brings sex tourism to Ryhope! Our whores are more than happy to take your citizens' ingots.

Are you saying the UN should be a brothel?

Of course.

"Every government is a Parliament of Whores."
--PJ O'Rourke

With regard to the subsequent "Who gets to be the pimp?" question Michael Moore did a brilliant piece on how lobbyists were johns buying dinner dates and that Congress needed a pimp to work more efficiently.

I propose that the UN legalize prostitution. I proposed this because in our nations there are those who would go into this kind of work rather it be legal or not. I think if we still have this proffession out there instead of criminalizing it we bring it under government control and tax it like any other occupation.

President Elvin Holloway

You call it an occupation? Have you heard of STD's?

Exactly why it needs to be regulated properly. Then the people who work in the industry can be tested regularly to minimise the risks of these diseases.

Free Bunnies has apparently never heard of "occupational hazards" or the fact that government regulation can minimize them. Coal Miners, for example, get black lung disease. Data entry personnel get carpal tunnel syndrome etc.

The Principality of Lastry is compelled by logic to concede that this is not a UN matter but supports efforts to make it a national issue.

By way of educating the public, it is distributing "Live Nude Girls Unite". It's a documentary about sex-positive, feminist strippers who see themselves as being exploited as workers, rather than as women. They successfully unionize their workplace. Solidarity Sisters.

http://www.livenudegirlsunite.com/

It is a national issue unless you consider making the UN into a brothel or having a brothel on the side. :wink:

It could benefit free trade.