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Repeal "fight the axis of evil"

22-06-2003, 21:10
I think people should pay some more attention to this "Repeal 'fight the axis of evil'" proposal because the original "fight the axis of evil" resolution was passed with two votes for and one against.

And, well, fighting for peace is like f***ing for virginity.
Islamofascism
22-06-2003, 21:15
Fighting for peace is stupid. Jihad is much better - when every non-muslim and every moderate muslim has been exterminated, insh'allah peace will rule over Allah's world. The less people fight us more easily they will be made slaves to our empire of Islamofascists.
Gurguvungunit
22-06-2003, 23:36
Fighting for peace is stupid. Jihad is much better - when every non-muslim and every moderate muslim has been exterminated, insh'allah peace will rule over Allah's world. The less people fight us more easily they will be made slaves to our empire of Islamofascists.
I pray that you are not serious
Escania
23-06-2003, 04:39
Unless your definition of peace is slavery, fighting for peace is a very realistic event.
23-06-2003, 04:51
I'm with these last two posts.
23-06-2003, 07:00
see people islamofasicism remark is the exact reason why we cannot repeal the RBH because he obviously needs some basic healthcare for that terrible mental health problem that he just displayed to all of us...hehe
23-06-2003, 08:25
The Nekronnian Unified Congress has reached a 2/3rds majority regarding the "Repeal The Axis of Evil" resolution and will not support wars for profit or conquest, only in defense of Nekronnia's borders, and those of it's region, beautiful La Vida Loca., and it's loyal members.
The Axis of Evil classifies those political systems that someone has decided they don't agree with, and as long as those nations keep to themselves, we see no reason to interfere with their internal policies.
If and when they prove to be aggressive and warmongering, then they will be dealt with in the most direct and conclusive fashion.
Those nations who seek war, will be shown war.

Nekronn99
Chairman Pro-Tem, Unified Nekronnian Council
UN Ambassador, La Vida Loca Region
23-06-2003, 10:16
I think people should pay some more attention to this "Repeal 'fight the axis of evil'" proposal because the original "fight the axis of evil" resolution was passed with two votes for and one against.

And, well, fighting for peace is like f***ing for virginity.

Why repeal something that doesn't affect you? We think it's a bit amusing having a resolution from the early years of the UN. It shows that this hasn't always been an ineffective mass gathering, but also an obscure tiny gathering...
23-06-2003, 10:48
"resolution is being debated by the UN. If it passes, it will immediately take effect in all UN member nations."

Am I missing something Westrogoticae or are you saying that resolutions don't work retroactively.
23-06-2003, 13:54
"resolution is being debated by the UN. If it passes, it will immediately take effect in all UN member nations."

Am I missing something Westrogoticae or are you saying that resolutions don't work retroactively.

They don't work retroactively.
23-06-2003, 15:18
i would welcom an attack on all "axis of evil" powers. hey, china should be in the axis of evil, after all, they have killd millions of tibetans, ect ect. lets all atack china. one small problem with that, china would jsut launch nukes and wipe out the world. and how do u know other axis of evil powers definatly dont have nukes, and havent planted them in your cities, ready to detonate them if u deicide they are next. hope that makes u all sleep soundly in your beds :wink:
23-06-2003, 20:06
Duh, mental note to self: dont write in a hurry.
What I meant to ask was if the new nations have to follow decisions made before they joined.

At least the seemingly right answer to me would be yes.
23-06-2003, 20:24
Duh, mental note to self: dont write in a hurry.
What I meant to ask was if the new nations have to follow decisions made before they joined.

At least the seemingly right answer to me would be yes.

Ok, here's the resolution:

Fight the Axis of Evil
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security Strength: Strong Proposed by: Maxtopia
Description: As the world becomes a more dangerous place, UN member nations must act swiftly in the interests of peace. This means, of course, building lots of new weapons. Only by massively increasing military budgets world-wide will we be able to restore peace and global security.

Votes For: 2

Votes Against: 1

Implemented: Tue Nov 12 2002

Now, what happens when a proposal becomes a resolution is that the Category (in this example "International Security") is affected in every member nation. How much depends on the level of Strength.

If you write a proposal that has, let's say "legalize dope" as a headline, but Categorise it as "Environmental" and "all industries" nothing is going to happen to your stance on drugs, but your auto industry may go down the drain. You can RP that your nation must follow the earlier resolutions, but they still won't be implemented in your nation.

Is this clear or just confusing?
24-06-2003, 00:16
Ok, that is good stuff to know. So what happens when you leave the UN. Does it fix all the things that happened while you were a member. ie. If I leave does my Auto Industry go up, since I no longer have to bother with Hydrogen Cars?
Anhinga
24-06-2003, 01:59
Fighting for peace is stupid. Jihad is much better - when every non-muslim and every moderate muslim has been exterminated, insh'allah peace will rule over Allah's world. The less people fight us more easily they will be made slaves to our empire of Islamofascists.

Please tell me you're not serious. How could you want to kill anyone, let alone your Muslim brothers and sisters? :shock:
24-06-2003, 09:28
Ok, that is good stuff to know. So what happens when you leave the UN. Does it fix all the things that happened while you were a member. ie. If I leave does my Auto Industry go up, since I no longer have to bother with Hydrogen Cars?

No, It doesn't work that way to my knowledge. You have to fix the "damages" yourself with the right issues.
24-06-2003, 09:53
The axis of evil cannot be defined, it is whoever the superpowers currently dislike. America used to fund Iraq when it considered Iran was the enemy, it also gave Osama bin Laden his first weapons - so he could fight the communists. How can there be a bill about an axis of evil when the axis is itself unstable? The axis is some big democracy going 'hey we don't like those people over there' and thus having an excuse to attack them. The axis leads to intolerance and prejudice, to one country imposing it's own moral and cultural values on another because it disagrees with theirs

How can you wage war to make peace, surely its hypocritical when you consider that peace existed before war. The paradox is a fallacy.
24-06-2003, 11:00
The axis of evil cannot be defined, it is whoever the superpowers currently dislike. America used to fund Iraq when it considered Iran was the enemy, it also gave Osama bin Laden his first weapons - so he could fight the communists. How can there be a bill about an axis of evil when the axis is itself unstable? The axis is some big democracy going 'hey we don't like those people over there' and thus having an excuse to attack them. The axis leads to intolerance and prejudice, to one country imposing it's own moral and cultural values on another because it disagrees with theirs

How can you wage war to make peace, surely its hypocritical when you consider that peace existed before war. The paradox is a fallacy.

*sighs* It is (probably) an example of a resolution put there before the game was released. Besides, NS UN doesn't deal with RL issues like Iraq. It doesn't do anything for this game.
24-06-2003, 16:31
A 'thank you' goes to Westrogoticae for his patience and clarifications. Nevertheless I would still like to see 'fight the axis of evil' to go, even if it didn't have any real effect on my or any other nation.
24-06-2003, 17:15
N.p.
21-07-2003, 00:01
Disarm.And leave my country exposed to any kind of attack.Maddness,your just as mad as our late Emperor Munix Latl.Lucky there was a coup that overthrew and killed him.To disarm your country is as to take off all of your clothes in the middle of a blizzard.Your mad!
imported_Betland
09-09-2003, 13:27
Dear Sir-

Betland supports your suggestion 100%. We too created a thread to generally be angry at "The Axis of Evil". you should author a proposal to repeal this idiotic resolution.

Councilman Rougen Vladikov
09-09-2003, 15:15
Disarm.And leave my country exposed to any kind of attack.Maddness,your just as mad as our late Emperor Munix Latl.Lucky there was a coup that overthrew and killed him.To disarm your country is as to take off all of your clothes in the middle of a blizzard.Your mad!

The point is NOT to disarm entirely. It is to keep enough defenses for your country, while not keeping enough for attacking others.

And I think that person who was talking about Jihad was just being sarcastic to make people think that some people actually think that way. Ok, there are a few. But, THE MIDDLE EAST IS NOT LOOKING FOR A JIHAD! They were told that it was a Jihad only AFTER the US attacked them!

And yes, I agree that the US has been doing stuff it shouldn't be doing. In fact, we are probably the main force in the "Axis of Evil". We war most, we kill most, we have the most "weapons of mass destruction." The only difference is, we do it either in the name of peace or in the name of the Christian God, instead of in the name of a Jihad. And the US claims that middle easterners who say they are doing it in the name of their God are not, because their God is peaceful. Well, WHY IS BUSH DOING IT IN THE NAME OF HIS GOD!?
Stephistan
09-09-2003, 16:48
Let's just repeal it and start again. I can't see where 3 people voting was a very good and true representation of the UN body as it exists today.

Peace,
Stephanie.
09-09-2003, 17:18
For those of you who are to lazy to read through this tiny thread there is a shorter version here:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1499852#1499852