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My sister and I really are in love. We will not bow down to the laws which say we cannot be together. I demand that my right to marry whomever I please be granted, and that the UN pass a resolution to assure that my sister and I are not arrested for our frolicking in the bedroom!

I demand Adult Incest Rights! Please, somebody make this a proposal for me.

Yet again, Apophis goes over the line with his sick sexual BS. Keep your hands off your sister, you sick bastard!

I really don't care if two family members of legal age want to get married, it is their perogative, but it is not a law the UN should try to pass. Make it legal in your country if you want, but don't force other nations to do the same.

That pole is well riged, the "Heil Jesus" is the crowning achevment of making Christianity seem like something that only White Power of Neo-Nazis practice. Which is not true!!!

I suggest that the UN raise money to see to it that people like Apophis get the psychiatric help that they so desperately need. Who is with me?

I suggest that the UN raise money to see to it that people like Apophis get the psychiatric help that they so desperately need. Who is with me?

A bullet is so much cheaper.

I suggest that the UN raise money to see to it that people like Apophis get the psychiatric help that they so desperately need. Who is with me?

A bullet is so much cheaper.

My funding that goes into the stupid hydro-bombs-on-wheels development can pay for a hitman ^_^

Hey don't knock the Eco-Bombs. Certainly the makers of hydrogen-powered automobile incendiary devices are more sane than the sick bastard who started this thread.

Please I hope that you are joking.

Please I hope that you are joking.

I wish it were so, but alas, it is true. I am putting money into the development of a crap technology.
Help.

I think it depends on the circumstances. If she is your biological sister, then NO!! On the other hand, if you were adopted or have different parents.... I guess it is alright.

I really don't care if two family members of legal age want to get married, it is their perogative, but it is not a law the UN should try to pass. Make it legal in your country if you want, but don't force other nations to do the same.

Then why is there a resolutuion propsed to make health care / prescription drugs mandatory? Mind your own business and stay out of my country

Kane

Are you and your sister really hot lesbians?

If you share parents it is absolutly no safe to have children and that is my main complaint. The odds of your child inheriting some horribly mangled trait is very high (and yes in a way I mean your brain).


-If you don't share birth parents then it still sounds gross, but I haven't a complaint. I don't believe you can truly be in Love with your sister, but I also believe you are pulling our leg in order to get us aroused (and no not sexually).

~Korunida~

I would support a resolution legalising incest only if the people involved were sterilised so as to prevent deformed offspring.

I would support a resolution legalising incest only if the people involved were sterilised so as to prevent deformed offspring.

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Don't legalize it, he's only trying to prolongue his kinds existence in the gene pool! :lol:

Sweet mother of decency. Think about what your saying. Even if the bible is a load of bullshit this is absurd. Not only is this something the UN should never consider if this one passed I'd have to resign and then promptly re-ban incest. We do need moral decency in the world so as humanity continues to exist. This is worse than if the UN tried ot tell me I had to outlaw marriage. I urge all religious states and the atheist ones as well to not approve.

With that said I sure as heck hope you're joking.

Hay incest isn’t so bad look at Briton… ok bad example, listen if you ask me "Fuck or not to fuck" I say by all means, FUCK. On that note what the hell are you people playing at?! Moral decency? Where humans for fucks sake! Moral my fucking ass! And yes I realize I say FUCK a lot and I would apologize for that but… I don’t give a shit. And lastly joking why the hell should he be joking? I think my cousin is pretty fucking hot. But ya the fucking UN really shouldn’t fucking enforce or deny this kind of fucking thing it should be up the individual fucking country to make that fucking choice. Final opinion, FUCK ON MAN!

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when u said "Heil, Jesus!" what does heil mean do u mean heal? also u r a girl rite?

My sister and I really are in love. We will not bow down to the laws which say we cannot be together. I demand that my right to marry whomever I please be granted, and that the UN pass a resolution to assure that my sister and I are not arrested for our frolicking in the bedroom!

I demand Adult Incest Rights! Please, somebody make this a proposal for me.

sicko

Well, I'd be hanging in Canada if I were you. Ontario already has same sex marrige rights. Nothing can be too far behind now!

Keep reaching for that rainbow! :wink:

~Meggz

What does this issue have to do with the UN?? If your country wants that...fine - but it's not worth the words to create a UN proposal...

Where's th option to let two brothers get married. Now that I'd support.

That is even worse in my opinion, but please don't bag on me for it. Disgusting, how could someone even talk a second glance at one's sister or brother. One's siblings have a special place in one's life. They do NOT, however, belong in your pants.

Apophis, you already can't be arrested for "frolicking in [your] bedroom" as you so distastefully put it; you are protected by the "Sexual Freedom" resolution which passed back in March (amendment, anybody?).

It's not clear to me why you would need a marriage right. Marriage is a sort of acknowledgement that two people who weren't family before are family now; you're already family with each other.

If this is a cry for help, being attracted to close relatives is a documented mental disorder caused by a chemical imbalance (females who are pregnant or on birth control pills are especially susceptible). It can be cured by the taking of certain hormones. I'm sure your doctor can prescribe something for you. These chemical imbalances also have a way of spontaneously going away; I wouldn't suggest marrying your sister, as you will probably be as disgusted as the rest of us by it after a few years.

No doubt someone has already pointed this out....but....

The whole 'morality' issue, as well as that of 'romance' and 'love', is vague, because they're all defined by humans.

Since I'm not an theologist, let alone an expert *rim shot*, I'm going to go by a more literal argument.

Inbreeding between immediate siblings (or even cousins, etc.) leads to...well...anomalies in the genetic code of the offspring, some of the time.

Okay, maybe a lot of the time. I really don't know the statistics. Maybe they're too low that it's not necessary to warrant a law against 'sex-crime'. Or maybe it's so high that the law is simply protecting future generations from genetic defects (such as suspectibility to disease, etc.)

Anyway, I suppose one could argue against this, that use of birth-control would make this point null and void.

I'm trying to make this as least opinionated as possible.

That is sick for any nation to tolerate such activity

Would only support if it was taped and the government was able to take all proceeds, and only with the 3rd option. :twisted:

I really don't give a shit what you and your sister do. Nothing i can do about it. But you should keep your sick companionship to yourself. You will never get enough support for a thing like that. You obviously just wanted a little attention or to have some stupid-ass gay rights activist feel sorry for you(there about the only people who would back a thing like this).

And Pyne Lyps, you truly are a mentally-disturbed person. There is no hope for people like you. You will always be a pest to society. Just try to stay out of societies way as much as you can. I'd hate to see you spread your ideas to other people. If you really care about humanity you will never post again on this or any other forum.

The only thing that the UN should do concerning this issue is make sure it is banned all over the world...this nation is sick

as usual the great(ok, so right now were having some trouble) Nation of Klimlover feels that people have the choice to do what they want with their bodies, and we support any legislation that would legalize incestful marriage.

I might add that ALL religions have firm laws AGAINST incest; it is perhaps the single universal trait in religions

Inbreeding between immediate siblings (or even cousins, etc.) leads to...well...anomalies in the genetic code of the offspring, some of the time.

Okay, maybe a lot of the time. I really don't know the statistics. Maybe they're too low that it's not necessary to warrant a law against 'sex-crime'. Or maybe it's so high that the law is simply protecting future generations from genetic defects (such as suspectibility to disease, etc.)

Anyway, I suppose one could argue against this, that use of birth-control would make this point null and void.


The statistic is 25% per defect genotype in both parents, 75% for defect phenotype in one parent and genotype in other and 100% per defective phenotype in both parent. This is very much higher in close relatives as the majority of humans will not share the same defective genes, resulting in 0% defects. The human genome contains millions of genes, hundreds of thousands of which may be defective. It is only when two breeding humans with the SAME defective gene are breedng that there is a chance of Defective offspring. As close relatives share many similar genes then this is far more likely and hence ncest is illegal in almost every country

This is not a question of morality, but one of science. In the case of lesbians, as long as they do not attempt a gene re-combination to produce a child then go for it, but siblings should not be permitted to reproduce.

Minister for Health
Holy Empire of Dalradia

Almost all religions have laws against homosexuality as well.

What does this issue have to do with the UN?? If your country wants that...fine - but it's not worth the words to create a UN proposal...

agreed.

No doubt someone has already pointed this out....but....

The whole 'morality' issue, as well as that of 'romance' and 'love', is vague, because they're all defined by humans.

Since I'm not an theologist, let alone an expert *rim shot*, I'm going to go by a more literal argument.

Inbreeding between immediate siblings (or even cousins, etc.) leads to...well...anomalies in the genetic code of the offspring, some of the time.

Okay, maybe a lot of the time. I really don't know the statistics. Maybe they're too low that it's not necessary to warrant a law against 'sex-crime'. Or maybe it's so high that the law is simply protecting future generations from genetic defects (such as suspectibility to disease, etc.)

Anyway, I suppose one could argue against this, that use of birth-control would make this point null and void.

I'm trying to make this as least opinionated as possible.


Interbreeding was actually the cause of the russian royal family's bleeding disease and in some ways this attributed to their downfall when Czar Nicholas signed the rights to his country over for himself and his son. The bleeding disease only showed up in males, but the young prince Nicki was too weak to take office because of it. Not really an opinion about the subject, just a historic note and background.

~Korunida~

I really don't give a shit what you and your sister do. Nothing i can do about it. But you should keep your sick companionship to yourself. You will never get enough support for a thing like that. You obviously just wanted a little attention or to have some stupid-ass gay rights activist feel sorry for you(there about the only people who would back a thing like this).

And Pyne Lyps, you truly are a mentally-disturbed person. There is no hope for people like you. You will always be a pest to society. Just try to stay out of societies way as much as you can. I'd hate to see you spread your ideas to other people. If you really care about humanity you will never post again on this or any other forum.


Hey! I don't agree with him either and it is my opinion that he is mentally ill or desperate, but plain derogitory name calling and posts like these have no place in debates. Calling someone some name or just simply making fun of them is different then debating and should not be present in intelligent arguments. I am not just bagging on you, but on everyone else who has only posted their disgust and no opinion concerning the subject or called any person on these boards an unacceptable name or term.


~Korunida supports clean and sensible debates~

Apophis, you already can't be arrested for "frolicking in [your] bedroom" as you so distastefully put it; you are protected by the "Sexual Freedom" resolution which passed back in March (amendment, anybody?).

It's not clear to me why you would need a marriage right. Marriage is a sort of acknowledgement that two people who weren't family before are family now; you're already family with each other.

If this is a cry for help, being attracted to close relatives is a documented mental disorder caused by a chemical imbalance (females who are pregnant or on birth control pills are especially susceptible). It can be cured by the taking of certain hormones. I'm sure your doctor can prescribe something for you. These chemical imbalances also have a way of spontaneously going away; I wouldn't suggest marrying your sister, as you will probably be as disgusted as the rest of us by it after a few years.

I wasn't a part of the UN in March. WHAT THE HELL IS HE TALKING ABOUT?

And if you want to do your sister... I mean you should have the freedom to do so (I guess...), but... eurgh. (Vomits)

What douse that have to do with it?

What douse that have to do with it?

Well, umm, I couldn't take this poll. It didn't supply an answer that sat with me well in any way. Umm, no it's not ok, incest is wrong. Umm, it has nothing to do with Jesus.

I suppose if this isn't some kind of sicko joke. (Although jokes are suppose to be funny) this isn't. However, if it's true... may I suggest one thing. Since no one unless you're caught is probably going to be able to stop you. All I request is that your sister use birth control. Unless of course you want babies with 9 heads!!! Massive birth defects... etc..

I also suggests perhaps seeking some help, maybe talk to your doctor about putting you in touch with some one.

I'm now going to wash my hands, after typing this they some how feel dirty! :shock:

Stephanie.

Well, I'd be hanging in Canada if I were you. Ontario already has same sex marrige rights. Nothing can be too far behind now!

Keep reaching for that rainbow! :wink:

~Meggz

sounds like canada's morals keep on slipping into depravity.

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