NationStates Jolt Archive

As per the News page:

The UN has been creaky for a while now (the one in NationStates, I mean), mainly because I never expected it to have near-on 40,000 members. So a couple of changes. First, you can now search for a proposal name. Second, admin is deleting inappropriate proposals. Third, you now need to be endorsed by at least two other nations before you can submit a proposal.

This should go some way towards making the UN more manageable. There's more to do, I know. Baby steps, baby steps.

did my proposal get submitted ??? Submitted it several weeks ago. titled " MERCs-we-Kill". How would I find it? Did it expire? Not enuff votes? How long does a proposal exist B4 it expires?

Thank you, [violet]!

Dear Violet,

You are a saint. Thank you so much!!!

:D

The Dominion of Imperial Finland thanks you for your appropriate action concerning the United Nations.

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[quote]Second, admin is deleting inappropriate proposals.

Where is 'inappropriate' described? I'd hate to find out that my Bier Day proposal is considered inappropriate (it's not). :D

I hope you can delete the same repetative 'legalize drugs' proposals!!! Also, how long is a proposal listed to be able to gain support? It seems that a few proposals are just shy of reaching quorum before they expire. Maybe now that we'll have less proposals, they could be listed just a few hours longer?

Woo!

yay :twisted:

this could be a great thing. :?

Tell your delegate to vote for the resolution that is called Ban Single-Hulled Tankers. It expires soon so hurry.

]Second, admin is deleting inappropriate proposals.

Where is 'inappropriate' described? I'd hate to find out that my Bier Day proposal is considered inappropriate (it's not). :D

It's listed on the page for submitting a proposal.

Woohoo! Thanks!

and let us all give thanks for the 5% delegate approval rating. all praise those responsible!

and let us all give thanks for the 5% delegate approval rating. all praise those responsible!

Amen!

EVERYONE VOTE ON MY PROPOSAL

Ban on Handicap Parking

and let us all give thanks for the 5% delegate approval rating. all praise those responsible!

Indeed! That has long been overdue. So many great, controversial proposals failed to come to a General Assembly vote.

Sincerest thanks to those who implemented this greatly needed procedural reform.

Down with the UN!!! :twisted:

Thank you so much! I can actually endorse the proposals I'm asked to now! Thanks :D

Ahh, the search function is great! Even greater would a "Disapprove" function be. Today I've read lots of proposals that I've would have loved to "Disapprove". A proposal with 126 disapprovals and 0 approvals is imediatly removed, or 130-4 or something like that. 2 reasons: the interest in reading proposals increases and badly written proposals disapper quicker. Well, wishing is still free, isn't it?

Westrogoticae Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 1:37 pm Post subject:

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<<,Ahh, the search function is great! Even greater would a "Disapprove" function be. Today I've read lots of proposals that I've would have loved to "Disapprove". A proposal with 126 disapprovals and 0 approvals is imediatly removed>>


Truer words were never spoken. :lol:

This is not good. For a search button, we need a wide search. with the regoin thingy, it does not work. It is a basic WORD for Word search. This is going to be hard to get/make. Also, I want a definition of 'inappropite' before I vote for you. Like if what the admin thinks is approitpioat6e might be different than what other people see. And like 'beer' is apprompiete. But a ATOU delete bot thingy will delte it. And for the endorse thing, NO, poepl have ideas, that are sometimes good, and if they dont get to the right people, it might not be sai 8) d.

i believe it is enough to get a few endorsements.
negative things can always be said, but positive is more difficult.

if you dont agree does not mean nobody else will.
and though disaprove would be much easier, abuse would also be easy.

plus what you really do, is giving a veto right to the first 200 people to read the post.
i dont think that would be fair....

however, endorsement might be made stiffer.

and if the problem is reappearing proposals... well thats a real live thing to happen.

even if it gets voted out time after time.

sorry no solution there

sebstars lands

i believe it is enough to get a few endorsements.
negative things can always be said, but positive is more difficult.

if you dont agree does not mean nobody else will.
and though disaprove would be much easier, abuse would also be easy.

plus what you really do, is giving a veto right to the first 200 people to read the post.
i dont think that would be fair....

however, endorsement might be made stiffer.

and if the problem is reappearing proposals... well thats a real live thing to happen.

even if it gets voted out time after time.

sorry no solution there

sebstars lands

i believe it is enough to get a few endorsements.
negative things can always be said, but positive is more difficult.

if you dont agree does not mean nobody else will.
and though disaprove would be much easier, abuse would also be easy.

plus what you really do, is giving a veto right to the first 200 people to read the post.
i dont think that would be fair....

however, endorsement might be made stiffer.

and if the problem is reappearing proposals... well thats a real live thing to happen.

even if it gets voted out time after time.

sorry no solution there

sebstars lands

i believe it is enough to get a few endorsements.
negative things can always be said, but positive is more difficult.

if you dont agree does not mean nobody else will.
and though disaprove would be much easier, abuse would also be easy.

plus what you really do, is giving a veto right to the first 200 people to read the post.
i dont think that would be fair....

however, endorsement might be made stiffer.

and if the problem is reappearing proposals... well thats a real live thing to happen.

even if it gets voted out time after time.

sorry no solution there

sebstars lands

Whoa! so "important" they had to say it four times. :shock:

I think the disapprove option for proposals is a great idea. In regards to the problem of valid proposals disappearing: if someone can muster 200 delegates to disapprove something, well then good for them. You could also have it be a running total of votes as suggested above, so if there were 10 votes for and 20 votes against, you'd only have 10 votes against for the purposes of removing the proposal. I think this would make the UN much more dynamic and widely used.

did my proposal get submitted ??? Submitted it several weeks ago. titled " MERCs-we-Kill". How would I find it? Did it expire? Not e :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: nuff votes? How long does a proposal exist B4 it expires?

Would it too much trouble to maybe add a display function to the proposal list, so we could see the list of proposal according to their category, strength, andand number of nations supporting (or lacking)

Can someone endorse me? Noone in my region has... Guess I'm not important.... But, all I need is one more endorsment to submit my civil rights/political rights bill. I'm glad that there will be less frivolous proposals.

HAAAAAAAA YALL HAVE NO BALLS

We have to think what will be best for the world not just our countries. 8)

Does anyone know what the Nation States UN Charter is? I mean, what's in it?

right on, brother/sister!

I thank you for setting the amount approvals needed at 6%! More democratic than 5%, but reasonable!

the free republic of saif thanks you for their admission to the UN and for your current administrative actions.

The United States of Dantech is Happy you took Action of this :lol:

Sorry, I haven't taken the time to read through all 75,000 pages of forum posts, but I really think it would be nice to have a link for authored UN proposals posted on the country's page. In that way, if you contact someone or want to inform someone to vote for a resolution they can just check the author's country page and follow the link to their proposed resolution.
This would be especially useful since those who write proposals tend to send out telegrams to other nations who then are forced to dig through up to 40 pages of proposals, or spell correctly in the search (which appears to be a problem for most).

8) how do u declare war?

]As per the News page:

The UN has been creaky for a while now (the one in NationStates, I mean), mainly because I never expected it to have near-on 40,000 members. So a couple of changes. First, you can now search for a proposal name. Second, admin is deleting inappropriate proposals. Third, you now need to be endorsed by at least two other nations before you can submit a proposal.

This should go some way towards making the UN more manageable. There's more to do, I know. Baby steps, baby steps. :roll:

the armoured tigers think that such idea is a waste of time in our country
soon the un will feel the might of the ARMOURED TIGERS :o

Quik some one endorse me NOW :twisted:

How do ijoin ??

What are endorsements and how do you get them?


~Korunida

:twisted:

HI this IS the rebublic of sabrowski this is a great post keep it up











ps
Are u tacken :evil:

Yeah. That is true

Hei Violet can you give me the e-mail of the main creator of this site pls
I need to write to him. Pls t-gram me . You can find me in tehe region of Romani.
Pls don't ignore me

Interesting.

:twisted:

Are you just trying to scare us or was this a self portrait? *Shudders* now that would be scarry

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afasfaasdfda

Oh, must be one of our great 'ignorant proposal authors' here to pay us a little visit. *claps*

Would this take away a right of a parent to spank a child? :!:

How can this censorship possibly be a good thing? The expiry date is a good enough way of ensuring 'inappropriate' proposals disappear. Make it shorter still if you're becoming clogged up with proposals. Or only allow one proposal per delegate at any one time. How is inappropriate defined anyway? I think the light-hearted ones inject a bit of relief and humour into an otherwise anally serious and grandiosely-illusioned game. It is a game after all...

What are endorsements and how do you get them?


~Korunida

You can endorse a nation if you like their proposals by viewing their nations site, there should be a link if you are a UN member to endorse them. :wink:

A search function is nice, but it's still not going to reduce the amount of white noise in proposal review as it requires that I already know what I'm looking for before I do the search. That, of course, assumes I have already thought of every good proposal that could be submitted, which is not true despite how unbelievably smart I am :wink:

There is simply not enough time to read through thirty pages of proposals and, I suspect, many good proposals never get enough votes due to not getting exposure in the time alloted for them to do so.

My suggestion is to reduce the maximum number of proposals on the review page, with a queue that is not displayed. For instance, if there are 300 submitted proposals, only show the first fifteen, but have them expire in a few days. The increased exposure over the course of those few days will probably exceed what they have now sitting in a haystack full of crap as the lone needle(s) of reason. Then, when the proposals in the first set expire (or gain the support needed for a vote), the next fifteen come in for review.

My other suggestion is to only allow each nation to submit A) one proposal at a time and B) one proposal per fixed period, like one per month. That should also reduce the nonsense and force people to not waste their opportunities to get things heard.

Just trying to be sensible

- FOO

We just submitted a proposal for substantially the above changes to be made. If you agree please ask your delegate to approve this proposal or, if you are a delegate please approve it.

-FOO

I think the UN stincksthey they think just because Im not demicratic I cant join! :tantrum :tantrum:

Is it possible to re-submit a proposal?? For example, if a proposal was submitted and turned down, can it be re-submitted after a certain length if time??

Just curious, bear with me if this is a stupid question - I'm new!

It can be resubmitted immediately. In fact, I have seen proposals resubmitted before the original submission expired. However, it's not recommended, unless your resubmission will land it on page 1 the day of expiry. This is because if you didn't have enough approvals the first time, it's unlikely that you'll have enough approvals the next time. Therefore, I would recommend waiting at least two weeks between submissions of an identical proposal.

This will do us well, I think

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i know that i am new to the united nations and all but i am agenst the new bill and i think that major changes are in order

i know that i am new to the united nations and all but i am agenst the new bill and i think that major changes are in order

Such as...?

-Goobergunchia

Such as needing two endorsements most likely.

Please vote . "Population Reduction Initiativ"

This proposal was submitted yesterday and is now gone.

This proposal was a valid proposal and deserves the review of other members. Thus far it is getting 50/50 approval in the polling which justifies its validity.

Was this proposal removed and if so why.

I would like very much to see a clear and consistant definition of what is and isn't considered to be appropriate proposals.

The Free Land of Wealth Makers

I think that this thread has served its purpose, and should be desticky'd

I think that this thread has served its purpose, and should be desticky'd

Seconded.

I propose that this should be de-announced first. :P

well now a new search function
it seems a good :lol: idea at first but then after that it didnt seem so good
in some peoples views it is good but in my view it will make nation states a more complicated site and take longer to download and if like me you have a slow computer then this will make getting on to the site even more of a problem

I propose that this should be de-announced first. :P

I agree

That's a good call we need to have othere nation agree before wasting the un's time

The steps being taken, especially the search feature, are helpful. Hard to manage 40,000. It is incredible that so many nations want to learn to work together for whatever reasons.

Recently i have proposed Legalise Fireworks
Please vote for my proposal as i think it would be beneficial to all..
and as if u wouldnt want to have fun with bunger
go to list proposals and vote Legalised Fireworks

Thank you, [violet]! you are all making too much of a big deal. Leave it :evil: :evil: :twisted: :idea: ok

:lol: yes to humor!!!! :P :lol: :) :D :wink:

I would like all UN Delegates to support Blumploslovakia's proposal to ban prostituton... It is an excellent Idea!!! Please atleast read it! 8)

This thread has become a place to

a.)Advertise proposals.

b.)Suggest game improvements.

c.)spam

None of these are on topic. I am forced to MODALERT this thread.

It is definitely nice to be able to search for the proposal by name.
Along those lines, will there at some point be an automatic link from a UN proposal to the corresponding forum debate?

It is definitely nice to be able to search for the proposal by name.
Along those lines, will there at some point be an automatic link from a UN proposal to the corresponding forum debate?

It is customary to post the UN proposal in the topic of discussion.

It is definitely nice to be able to search for the proposal by name.
Along those lines, will there at some point be an automatic link from a UN proposal to the corresponding forum debate?

It is customary to post the UN proposal in the topic of discussion.
Doesn't that seem a little backwards? there is no way to get to a proposal topic from the proposal itself.
In other words, each proposal when it is created through the proposal system should automatically generate a forum topic with the Proposal title as the subject. Then if you are browsing the proposal list all you would have to do to link to the forum discussion on that proposal is, say, click on the title of the proposal itself.

If I am writing a proposal, how am I supposed to know whether or not the proposal will make a difference even if passed by the U.N.? That is, how am I to know whether or not the laws that will be put into place by my proposal are already in place? I don't want to write a proposal only to find out the laws it would make already exist. Thank you in advance to anyone who helps.....

It is definitely nice to be able to search for the proposal by name.
Along those lines, will there at some point be an automatic link from a UN proposal to the corresponding forum debate?

It is customary to post the UN proposal in the topic of discussion.
Doesn't that seem a little backwards? there is no way to get to a proposal topic from the proposal itself.
In other words, each proposal when it is created through the proposal system should automatically generate a forum topic with the Proposal title as the subject. Then if you are browsing the proposal list all you would have to do to link to the forum discussion on that proposal is, say, click on the title of the proposal itself.
There are to many proposals for this, and most of them are made by people who don't even do anything after making a proposal (I'd also bet some don't even browse the forums. It would clutter the forums unneccissarilly, not to mention encourage spam a bit.

How do i endorse a proposal? :?

How do i endorse a proposal? :?

You're not a delegate, so you can't.

As head of the nation of Ardenlandia, the last time I checked, Alok was head of the UN.

I have been away for months.


Is Alok still Head of the UN?

As head of the nation of Ardenlandia, the last time I checked, Alok was head of the UN.

I have been away for months.


Is Alok still Head of the UN?

There's a Head of the UN? :shock:

I really dislike having to have two endorsements.
I mean whats up with that. What if you are in a region with very few un members. This sucks

:cry: :evil:

I really dislike having to have two endorsements.
I mean whats up with that. What if you are in a region with very few un members. This sucks

:cry: :evil:

yeah thank u alot for the advice used in a good since :wink:

Thank You! :D

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:idea: It is extremely time consuming to wade through proposal pages. It could be helpful to have a summary page showing the proposal name, category, stength, proposed by nation, current approvals, and status.

Representatives could more easily track which proposals are currently needing their attention and delegates could more readily see what is coming up.

Thanks
Rixtex

I think evereyone should vote against the pop up thing because the person spelled the word "banned" like this "band."

I think evereyone should vote against the pop up thing because the person spelled the word "banned" like this "band."

yes, spam and popups SHOULD be banned

The Holy Empire of New Born Mother Russia thanks you.

I think that diplomatic confrontation isn´t war in Nation States or anywhere, our job is to find global solutions to global problems, if anyone want to call war to diplomacy I thick its ok. But in here in the United Nations we have to resolve problems that afect to every Nation States, and the diplomatics problems between two nations have to be solved between those two Nation States.
If you belive in a real freadom vote against this Dictatorial & Omipresent resolution that gives to the UN lots of rights over every Nation States.
We got UN members freely but we have lots of issues that can´t be delivered to this organization, we have lots of issues that are so much imprtant that give UN the right to decide over Nation States

Haveing something like this wouldn't really help in any way I can see, so I'm against wasting space with something so useless.

How do i endorse a proposal? :?

You're not a delegate, so you can't.
how do i

Every nation go and look at More for poor less for war

Great, now that makes a heck of alot more sense. My troll scholars and politicians will now be able to actually debate an issue and each side will know that they are talking about the same subject! Arguments have been rampant in my nation due to the fact that no one knows what anyone else is ever talking about. HAHA.
-morgstalker :roll:

Sounds like you have communication problems, morgstalker. You should really buy those coast to coast walkie-talkies.

Disputed Lands of UndisputedOpinion thanks you with all its heart and so does his region.

Hello ambassador how are you this fine day?

The Incorporated States of Zaalania have been forced to be in compliance with the United Nations "BioRights Declaration" resolution. How can this be done as Zaalania is a new nation.

NO NO NO we must DEstroy who cares about this crapolla :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :( :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

plz look at my proposal, endorse if u wish. its called "davenation". cheers all

yah ive had trouble with that.

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About time this thing was deannouncificatorised.

Finally!!!(insert about 20 thousand pages more of exclaimation points here)
Thankyouthankyouthankyou Myrth!

Now hopefully after everybody else finished thanking you, this will never bob up in my egosearch again.