NationStates Jolt Archive

I for one am very very very annoyed at region hawkers who found with potentially popular names then close them off from any new nations and claim that it is an "empire." I was trying to find an untaken region name for a country or appropriate city to found as a colony for the New Inquisition but pretty much all of them were taken by hawkers. I am specifically angry at the Macedonian Empire which has regions like Brazil, Libya, Sri Lanka, Papua New Guinea, Finland, Andorra, Bangladesh, Macedonia, Burma, Myanmar, Nepal, Bolivia, Yemen and others with one or two nations in them and without delegate access or any activity or government making it absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for it to be used productively. I think you'd all agree that NS is dying? Well maybe this is a contributing factor; if people were given the chance to actually use these regions actively it would be awesome.

Could the moderators or admins or something take some kind of action against hawkers? I remember that Genosha got a mod to found it because it was controlled by an inactive hawker...

Much thanks

Could the moderators or admins or something take some kind of action against hawkers?So... you want us to punish people for thinking of a real world nation before you did?

So... you want us to punish people for thinking of a real world nation before you did?

I wouldn't see it as punishing; just contributing to NS wide inactivity. The Macedonian Empire has held onto these regions without a scrap of activity since 2004 so I don't see how they're helping the game at all.

Why is this such a concern? Why do you need to use a specific region name?

I wouldn't see it as punishingYou want us to take "action against" such people. Presumably, you want us to forcibly eject them from their regions. By what calculus is that not punishing?

Why is this such a concern? Why do you need to use a specific region name?

Well firstly, it helps create a theme for a region. For example, with San Marino it would be easy to base it on a Republican European Microstate with two joint head of states and with forums on the forum named after San Marrinese locations or institutions. That can't be done pretty much in any other region under any other name because there wouldn't be an appeal for people to arrive as recruits. You're probably going to drill holes in that argument but it is considerably easier to recruit using a familiar name which in effect fosters activity.

Secondly, it creates a place where nationals can come and enjoy. NS France uses French and that couldn't happen under any other region name. Australia, which I was involved in for a while, was able to have cultural activites based on real Australian events like AFL tables, Melbourne Cup and "Fireworks" on New Year's Eve which are traditional Australian activities. In any region other than Australia you simply cannot talk about Aussie politics and expect passionate responses by the majority of the forum. By letting Hawkers control such regions it deprives nationals of such oppurtunities.

You want us to take "action against" such people. Presumably, you want us to forcibly eject them from their regions. By what calculus is that not punishing?

I guess that might be punishing but since they are inactives I don't think that'd be much of a problem would it?

On the other hand you could just remove founders from Country regions but I don't know if that would mean altering code...

I guess that might be punishing but since they are inactives I don't think that'd be much of a problem would it?We already have coded methods of removing truly inactive players; specifically, their nation autodeletes if left alone for 28(60) days. Stepping up that schedule would be changing the rules in the middle of the game.

On the other hand you could just remove founders from Country regions but I don't know if that would mean altering code...I wager The Holy Empire of Tyrr (http://www.nationstates.net/tyrr) and the other hundred players in the region England (http://www.nationstates.net/region=england) won't much care for that idea...

You could create new regions with related names based on a fictional set of countries.

You could add dashes or zeros to names of regions that are already taken.... or you could make up new names.... or you could hawk those regions yourself, wait for the Macedonian Empire to lose interest in the game, then refound the regions and do what you like with 'em.