NationStates Jolt Archive

Nation descriptions and UN compliance

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Would it be possible to add a line to these issue effect descriptions every time a UN resolution passes? Something like: "the nation has passed laws to come into compliance with UN protocols regarding labor relations ..." It could be sillier, as issue effect descriptions usually are; this is just an example. Or is that another impossibility due to gamecoding issues?

Regional Influence and Founders

Unless a Delegate can actually boot a Founder from his own region (and I would ask Kiv to test this for me, only I don't want him to waste his influence ;)), Founders are pretty much exempt from the effects of regional influence. Is there a way to create a separate influence category for Founders (unless they have moved to another region, of course)?

Would it be possible to add a line to these issue effect descriptions every time a UN resolution passes?
Interesting idea. I'll make sure the admins see this topic.

Is there a way to create a separate influence category for Founders (unless they have moved to another region, of course)?
Do you mean a displayed category, to replace Hermit or Minnow or whatever? If so, it would really serve no purpose apart from duplicating information on the Region page. Also, it's possible to be a Founding Father of the region, yet not be particularly influential in terms of what actually goes on in the region. Looks to me like a case of "it's not broke, so don't fix it".

If you're not referring to the displayed category, I'm not at all clear on what you're proposing.

Do you mean a displayed category, to replace Hermit or Minnow or whatever? If so, it would really serve no purpose apart from duplicating information on the Region page. Also, it's possible to be a Founding Father of the region, yet not be particularly influential in terms of what actually goes on in the region. Looks to me like a case of "it's not broke, so don't fix it".Yes, the displayed category. I only asked because founders don't lose influence when they tinker with Regional Control. And how much influence they accumulate has no effect on whether they can be kicked out of the region, because they can't be booted anyway. Or can they?

The fact that Founders don't burn Influence to perform actions doesn't mean their Influence is irrelevant. It still affects the Delegate's choice of action.

Founders can be booted by Delegates. It's usually pointless, of course, since they can access Regional Controls and let themselves back in, but if the Delegate wants to burn Influence to do so, we'll let 'em.

I can see a hypothetical instance where booting an inactive Founder could allow for a regional refounding. This strikes me as a reasonable way to get rid of those once-every-twenty-seven-days players to be removed from regional ownership and allow more active players to take control of a small region. It would be much harder in a large region, of course.

As for the displayed Influence text in such a case, it's still a (barely) useful guideline to the Delegate in determining whether or not it's reasonable to try it. If we removed it and replaced it with "Founder", it would add nothing to the actual use of Influence in the region, and would subtract from the Delegate's knowledge. I see such a change as counter-productive.

Fair enough; I wasn't very attached to the idea anyway. ;)

Still curious to see if my first suggestion would ultimately be workable.

It would probably have to be pretty generic, sadly. Remember, to the game, one SJ:Mild Resolution is the same as every other. Even incorporating from the title would be either generic or a huge time suck.

Hm.

"the nation has passed laws to come into compliance with UN protocols regarding Unnecessary Animal Cruelty..." works okay, but it's a little clunky with something like: "the nation has passed laws to come into compliance with UN protocols regarding Establishment of ICPIN..."

I suppose, in theory, we could come up with some boilerplate descriptors for each category. Repeals, of course, would probably have to be ignored.

Oh well, then.

You guys wouldn't have time to write a unique description for each resolution, or is it a gamecoding issue?

A little of both, I wager.

To add something like that would either require a coded script (Admin work), or for the GM's to add that information by hand, and I'm sure you can imagine the workload that would generate.

It would either have to be a one-time generic-code script that ran (leading to possible strange syntax like above), or a unique script written every time something passed, which the Admins probably don't have time for.

Personally, I'm not against the idea, and I think it would be pretty neat; I just don't think it's practical with the way the game's set up.