NationStates Jolt Archive

I'd like to propose adding a "history" function for every nation - at least for the political issues and the country description to be able to look back what happened in the past..

I've been playing for over three years now, in that time I've had two isseus per day. 3 x 365 x 2 = 2190 issues, so that would be a very long page to show all the history.

In short, I doubt it will be added:p

This has been requested and rejected many times in the past. It's just too much additional material for our limited server space. Bear in mind that we have almost 2 million nations in storage, and ALL of them would need this.

Not gonna happen. Sorry.

you know, for a forum that includes "ideas for improvement" under the text, there doesnt seem to be any room, or acceptance, for improvement

In four years, we've heard a million suggestions. We've implemented many of them, rejected others that were technically impossible, and pointed people who asked the same question that's been asked half-a-million times to our prior rulings.

Them's the breaks.

well like i suggested earlier, banning multiple accounts, would narrow down greatly the amount of nations in storage, helping with the "history" function for nations, who really needs three nations to experiment, i find it aggravating that i cant view my history partly because someone else wants more accounts, if not that than at least add the rankings systems, that way users can compare ranks in all the known fields rather than wait for them to show up for a day

I still don't see why banning multiple accounts will free up as much space as you think. Not that many people have multiple accounts. WEhen you look at it and there are over 99 Thousand nations. How many of those do you think are people who only have one nation, and how many do you think are people who have more than one nation?

At least 14,000 of them are single nations just from looking at the vote in the UN.

well like i suggested earlier, banning multiple accounts, would narrow down greatly the amount of nations in storage,Except that doing that wouldn't free up any space as all of those nations would still be there.
helping with the "history" function for nations, who really needs three nations to experiment, i find it aggravating that i cant view my history partly because someone else wants more accounts,If you wnat to know every decision you make on issues, there's a way to do that without the admins needing to code a thing. All you have to do is, open your favorite word processing program, write down the issue(s) you recieved and your decision, save the file, and repeat daily.

At least 14,000 of them are single nations just from looking at the vote in the UN.
I believe that you're forgetting that UN Delegates get additional votes for each endorsement they have.

well like i suggested earlier, banning multiple accounts, would narrow down greatly the amount of nations in storage, helping with the "history" function for nations, who really needs three nations to experiment,
Honestly? I have 60+, probably close to 70 now. At least 3 or 4 are main nations.
I'm sorry you can't be bothered to note down your own history and invest a little time in your nation. It has been decided that people are allowed multiple nations as long as only 1 is in the UN. That is not going to change.
i find it aggravating that i cant view my history partly because someone else wants more accounts, if not that than at least add the rankings systems, that way users can compare ranks in all the known fields rather than wait for them to show up for a day
It's my understanding the ranks are created daily, and all memory of them is discarded the next cycle. Saving those rankings for roughly 100,000 nations every day would be hard. Even saving them for the thousands of individual players would be hard. As Flibbleites suggests, view your nation daily and write it down.

Honestly? I have 60+, probably close to 70 now. At least 3 or 4 are main nations.
I'm sorry you can't be bothered to note down your own history and invest a little time in your nation. It has been decided that people are allowed multiple nations as long as only 1 is in the UN. That is not going to change.

It's my understanding the ranks are created daily, and all memory of them is discarded the next cycle. Saving those rankings for roughly 100,000 nations every day would be hard. Even saving them for the thousands of individual players would be hard. As Flibbleites suggests, view your nation daily and write it down.

many sites keep records of rankings, and the idea of recording them daily is absurd do to the fact that they change constantly

Except that doing that wouldn't free up any space as all of those nations would still be there.
If you wnat to know every decision you make on issues, there's a way to do that without the admins needing to code a thing. All you have to do is, open your favorite word processing program, write down the issue(s) you recieved and your decision, save the file, and repeat daily.


I believe that you're forgetting that UN Delegates get additional votes for each endorsement they have.

by banning the multiple accounts they would also be cleaning out the excess that are left when users finally decide what nation they wish to keep, perhaps we could in the middle and allow limited nations per user, in the previous quote you can see that one user has over 60, that is clearly ridiculous, do remember that although one nation per user in the UN, that still doesnt help with locations as their collective regional power is based on the nations in the location, this is to my understanding as i could not find any info on regional power, if i am wrong than disregard that statement

I still don't see why banning multiple accounts will free up as much space as you think. Not that many people have multiple accounts. WEhen you look at it and there are over 99 Thousand nations. How many of those do you think are people who only have one nation, and how many do you think are people who have more than one nation?

we could try to have a census and see how many nations match one IP address or email

by banning the multiple accounts they would also be cleaning out the excess that are left when users finally decide what nation they wish to keepNo it wouldn't, the files for nations deleted for inactivity or for rule breaking are still there. That's why the nations can be ressurrected and why those nation's names are unavailable. Now why would the nations given up under your plan be any different?
perhaps we could in the middle and allow limited nations per user, in the previous quote you can see that one user has over 60, that is clearly ridiculousIf a player, (who in the case you're referring to also happens to be a mod) can remember to check into all their nations, why shouldn't they be allowed to keep them. I myself have a few puppets one in the Antartic Oasis, one in Texas, one in the UNOG Works Canteen, and one who's sole purpose is for RPing, why should I be forced to give them up?
that still doesnt help with locations as their collective regional power is based on the nations in the location, this is to my understanding as i could not find any info on regional power, if i am wrong than disregard that statementAs far as I know, that's primaraly a theory as the only people who know if that's true are the mods and admins and they aren't talking.

This game has allowed as many non-UN nations as the player can keep track of since it came out 4 years ago. It's a part of the game, and eliminating that would change the game. I know a lot of people who run multiple nations, myself included, and I doubt any of us would be happy with any such change.

many sites keep records of rankings, and the idea of recording them daily is absurd do to the fact that they change constantly
Many sites are not completely free with as little server space as ours either. Our game has gone down before due to *not* clearing the current history that gets kept (if I remember correctly). Keeping even more history would make that more likely. Also, for the longest existing nations, you would build up decisions for years and years and years.

You can record your own rankings in Excel. Be happy and track your own progress through the world.
by banning the multiple accounts they would also be cleaning out the excess that are left when users finally decide what nation they wish to keep,
I wish to keep all of mine. Now there are some nations that have been tossed by the wayside that are never coming back, but there are also nations that people have revived from *years* ago. How are we to tell the difference?
perhaps we could in the middle and allow limited nations per user, in the previous quote you can see that one user has over 60, that is clearly ridiculous, do remember that although one nation per user in the UN, that still doesnt help with locations as their collective regional power is based on the nations in the location, this is to my understanding as i could not find any info on regional power, if i am wrong than disregard that statement
As far as I know, that's primaraly a theory as the only people who know if that's true are the mods and admins and they aren't talking.
And what does your regional power do for you besides make you feel all happy and warm inside? And Flibb, I'll quote (http://www.nationstates.net/pages/influence.html) for you "Regions now have a "Regional Power" label. This reflects how much Influence that region's residents have in total, compared to other regions." So yes, puppets add to a region's influence level.
we could try to have a census and see how many nations match one IP address or email
The mods already know that/can find out that kind of information in order to make sure people don't UN multi.

I'd like to propose adding a "history" function for every nation - at least for the political issues and the country description to be able to look back what happened in the past..
Yep, it is not going to happen because of server limitations. If it is that important then you can write it down yourself.

Then again, if you stick around, you might see it happen on NS2. But this is just speculation on my part, so don't take my word for it.

I've always thought it would be nice if you could choose a few issues that you strongly feel represent your nations political policies to remain in your countries profile. I would much prefer that to just having the most recent four. I also would like access to my countries raw numbers, though I haven't honestly looked extremely hard for access to it. It certainly isn't easily attainable, though it should be in my opinion.

II also would like access to my countries raw numbers, though I haven't honestly looked extremely hard for access to it. It certainly isn't easily attainable, though it should be in my opinion.

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