NationStates Jolt Archive

I sent a request on sunday for "Arcadia" to be reactivated. Was the request received okay? The login screen says it doesn't exist.

"Arcadia" was created in the very early days of the game and none of the information matches yours in any way. In such cases, we don't necessarily restore.

If you are in fact the owner of that nation, and last logged on Mar 2 2003, how about providing us some evidence that it's yours? The email you used at the time would be a big hint. Were you in school then? Where? What region did you belong to? Any idea what you might have used for national currency or animal?

Frankly, I think you had a more recent nation and you've forgotten something about how you spelled it, since your first choice was taken. Either way, file another report (not here) with any relevant information.

I recall being told a couple times (mostly by Hack, but I think by Sal too) that anybody could ask for any nation to be revived, as long as it hadn't been mod deleted or owned by I mod.

Of course, I haven't really played the game for a year and a half.

Has that policy changed?

Peace, Truth, Liberty, and Justice,
Luke

We're a bit more careful on ancient and/or famous nations. We routinely disregard the weekly anonymous requests for the restoration of Francos Spain. Pre-influence, we had a lot of random requests to restore regional founders who were long dead and uninterested in the game. This actually reached the level of abuse, and we started requesting that people only rezz their own nations.

The nation restoration service is not a substitute for logon, or a way to keep friends' nations alive while they take a year or two off. The mods aren't here to manage your 500 puppet armies, either. Log on to them or let them die.

There is no good reason to stuff Lazarus with a bunch of nations that will never be logged into. It slows down the game incrementally (every living nation goes through update), and a rezzed founder in Laz is a pretty hollow threat. It's also not our job to be used as a pawn in regional politics, and it wastes our time as well. I don't have an unlimited amount of that stuff.

That may not be everyone's approach, but that's how The Fris does things. If that's a change in policy, so be it.

Ahh.
This is one of those mod-by-mod things then?

The only mod I know I've asked is Hack, and that was a while ago.

I think I asked Sal too though, maybe not. Or maybe it was Enodia or Scolo. Somebody. Whoever it was, it was the first time I asked and quite a while ago.

I seem to recall that you brought Francos Spain back at least once, I can see how that would get to be a pain.

To be honest I'd forgotten about Arcadia. I used to do this a lot - sign up to different web or email games, then realise I didn't have the time to play all of them, so some ended up in limbo :-( I created a nation on this site twice before a few years ago before coming back now due to there being a group playing NS on a messageboard I'm on.

The reason I now remember Arcadia is because I've been having a harddrive cleanup (there's some folders and files I haven't used in years) and found an old games folder with the flag I created for the nation (arcadia.jpg was the filename of the flag) along with some of the source images I used to create the flag. The flag has a file creation date of 9th April 2003, so I assume I created the nation not long before that.

In 2003 I was in college in Gateshead as an adult learner. I didn't play it at college though, so if there's any reference to my location it will be Chester-le-Street, where I live. I'm afraid I can't remember which email address I used back then (I've went through more than a dozen over the years with different ISPs/companies - Enterprise, Force 10, FSnet, The Ant Colony, Eidosnet, Eclipse, Darkcastle, ZZN, Yahoo, Hotmail). I think the national animal was a hawk. I used it as the central emblem of my flag anyway.

I can email you the flag if it will help?

I was resurrected. It was good to come back.

The flag has a file creation date of 9th April 2003, so I assume I created the nation not long before that.
The nation expired of inactivity more than a month before that. Doesn't sound like something you'd have done for a game you'd forgotten to play.
In 2003 I was in college in Gateshead as an adult learner. I didn't play it at college though, so if there's any reference to my location it will be Chester-le-Street, where I live.
The 'Arcadia' on our server was created and played by an American
I'm afraid I can't remember which email address I used back then
Unless you have a phenomenal memory for passwords, you're out of luck in any case. The only way to get a password reset in this game is by supplying the registration email address.
I can email you the flag if it will help?
No. Custom flags are deleted when the nation is deleted for space reasons.

I've gone ahead and rezzed Arcadia despite all this, as just looking at the nation will clearly reveal that it has nothing in common with what you described. Have a look, then make a new version if you want.

You're right, I don't recognise any of it. Is it possible after however long has lapsed and the nation has been put in limbo, for someone else to choose that name and the previous nation with that name be overwritten?

If not, I can't think why I named the flag Arcadia. I assumed I must have named the file after the nation, but it appears not :confused:

I've gone into Outlook and looked back in my inbox to see if there's anything with my addresses from 2 or 3 years ago on, so I can let you know. As far as I can tell I used the addresses below back then, each for different things. Although I suppose there's no guarantee I even attached one to my defunct nations (I can't remember being active on the forum back then, so there wouldn't have been much reason, especially when I only played a few weeks each time).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/frisbeeteria/modedit.jpg As I stated above, do NOT provide personal information in a forum thread ... particularly not email addresses. We have a private reporting system in the Getting Help page that is immune to spam-search bots. Use that.


If there's no account under any of the addresses, I guess I'll have to just give whatever they were named up for dead.

Unless you have a phenomenal memory for passwords, you're out of luck in any case. The only way to get a password reset in this game is by supplying the registration email address.
And when you chop and change as much as I do, even that becomes somewhat of a shot in the dark :-\ Oh well, I appreciate you indulging my queries and hope I haven't wasted too much of your time. My apologies if so.

You're right, I don't recognise any of it. Is it possible after however long has lapsed and the nation has been put in limbo, for someone else to choose that name and the previous nation with that name be overwritten?
Not at this time due to technical problems which have yet to be worked out.

Not at this time due to technical problems which have yet to be worked out.
There were a number of very odd glitches in the early days.

I seem to recall that losing nation names may have been one of them, though I'm not certain, could be a manufactured memory from reading this thread. You'd have to find a nation from no later than like Dec '02 or Jan '03 to confirm or deny this most likely. Or maybe one of the early mods.

I only recall vague mentions of these bugs, I was a July '03 nation under my first incarnation, never experienced any of them firsthand. Well, actually I experienced two, but neither of them was drastic (my first issue, which is always uspposed to be the voting one was the uranium one; and at one point the compliance ministry missed a telegram or two), so yeah, sorry, tangent.

I'm gonna guess though that it's more likely that Arcadia was taken, and that you named your nation "Greater Arcadia" or something like that. I did much the same with my flags and nations.

Is it possible after however long has lapsed and the nation has been put in limbo, for someone else to choose that name and the previous nation with that name be overwritten?
Flibbleites was correct in stating that the nation name recycling program is on hold. It's irrelevant in this case, though, as the existing nation is OLDER than your possible involvement.

All the obvious artificial nation names were taken early, probably in the first two months. We get at least one "can you release the name 'Soviet Union' for me please? I know I'm the only one who could use it properly" request every month or two.

I think we're done here. Closing this thread.