NationStates Jolt Archive

I'm now on my third or forth try to get a UN nation, and here's my problem-
1-I verify the e-mail adress of the nation.
2-I apply to join the UN
3-I recieve the telegram saying "We are pleased to welcome you into the UN..."
4-I never recieve the promised conformation e-mail

Thanks for any help.
-TWM:headbang:

A spam filter probably ate it. Try using a different e-mail from a different provider.

well the spam filter didn't get the conformation email did it.
I've had the same thing.
I changed the email address to one where you can see what is being filtered and have not received a verification email so i suspect its screwed

Actually, I may be having the same problem with a puppet I have. I sent a request to join the UN with one e-mail, got the telegram, but never got the actual e-mail. I'm trying it with an e-mail account on a different site; I hope it works.

Have you been trying with AOL? Apparently there's a major problem with that, it simply deletes emails from NS, without them even showing up in your spam/trash folder.

Actually, I may be having the same problem with a puppet I have. I sent a request to join the UN with one e-mail, got the telegram, but never got the actual e-mail. I'm trying it with an e-mail account on a different site; I hope it works.

I've figured out the problem. It has nothing to do with NS or Jolt, but Hotmail's "automatic purging" of the trash can.

And that may be The Western Mountain's problem as well. It could have gotten into the trash can and was purged, especially if you didn't check the account right after you received the confirmation telegram.

well not using aol or hotmail, wanadoo (with checkable filtering and I delete the junk before its autodeleted) and virgin which doesn't allow you to manually check junk and have used both.

I've figured out the problem. It has nothing to do with NS or Jolt, but Hotmail's "automatic purging" of the trash can.

And that may be The Western Mountain's problem as well. It could have gotten into the trash can and was purged, especially if you didn't check the account right after you received the confirmation telegram.

I have the telegram, still waiting for the actual e-mail. I don't know when I got the telegram, so I'll have to wait for a few hours before seeing if the application actually worked.

Edit: STILL waiting. It's been at least 12 hours since I even knew that the telegram was in my inbox. Oh, and if it helps, the puppet's name is Neo Metal Music.

Edit: And I'm already trying a new nation with a new e-mail. Beat you to it. :p

I'm having the same problem. I have my spam filter turned off.

I have had the same problem. I have now applied to the UN twice. I got the first telegram, and waited more than 24 hours, but have yet to get an email.

I've applied again, but am still waiting for the telegram for that.

I have checked my trash/spam folders, and there's nothing there, and I even created a filter to send messages from NationStates to a specified folder.

I wish there were some easier way to confirm UN member status, perhaps through a link on your nation page. :\

have u figured out how to get around this yet? i got the un telegram but no conformation email....
dont really want to have to start a new nation either...
how do i go about confirming??
HELP MEEEEE!!

I have had the same problem. I have now applied to the UN twice. I got the first telegram, and waited more than 24 hours, but have yet to get an email.

I've applied again, but am still waiting for the telegram for that.

I have checked my trash/spam folders, and there's nothing there, and I even created a filter to send messages from NationStates to a specified folder.

I wish there were some easier way to confirm UN member status, perhaps through a link on your nation page. :\

Sadly, some email accounts filter emails no matter what you tell them.

Try another email address from another provider (Yahoo, Hotmail) and see if this works.

Had same problem.

Changed to Hotmail address, now no prob.:D

think its a problem with sending the email in general given that i can actually see whats filtered before its deleted. doesn't help that theres no option to rerequest the mail

A lot of ISP's filter out email before it even gets to you. I know AOL does this to NS emails.. probably are a couple others.. I have not had problems with Yahoo or Gmail addresses (though I haven't applied to the UN in a long time)

I am trying it with both Hotmail and Gmail. I am not getting anything.

Yahoo! Still nothing.

when i say i can see what is being filtered thats as in log in to the webmail interface and examine the inbox and junk folders which contain stuff thats filtered by my isp so i can tell them what is and is not spam rather than another isp which just filters and doesn't
delivery of the un emails seems to be random given that others are saying yahoo and gmail don't work.
Almost makes you wonder if they are harvesting email addresses though i'll give them the benefit of the doubt and just suspect its dodgy coding and an iffy isp (hey perhaps its coming via verizon)

No, it's just a glitch that is starting to annoy a lot of people. Help? Moderators? Please? :D

Trying with two different nations and four different e-mail addresses (me) seems to confirm that this is a glitch in NS, not in the e-mails themselves.

Edit: Just keep clicking "Join the UN". One is bound to actually WORK. :) I didn't do it yet, but that will be my last option if I can't find out why it's not working.

Edit: It lets you click it only once. It that doesn't work, my mouse and finger are going to get some exercise over the next few days :D

I'm having the exact same problem with my GMail account, and no, its not in the Spam filter. I searched for all NationStates mail, and it just has my old UN invite from years ago.

Still getting nothing...

Edit: Would applying with two different nations with different e-mails cause this? I applied for UN with this nation and a puppet. What happened was, I applied for both because the UN has a queue, and I was using this nation in the UN for fun, but I was going to use the other nation in the UN very soon, and I didn't want to wait the usual day or two. Could this have messed up the UN for me on my end (a sort of "bottleneck" of UN applications from the same IP)?

i use verizon and have the same peoblem as everyone else. i don't think it is a problem with verizon because i got the original nationstates forum link message fine. i think it is just a glitch in the game. well i will keep reaplying and hope for the best.

i use verizon and have the same peoblem as everyone else. i don't think it is a problem with verizon because i got the original nationstates forum link message fine. i think it is just a glitch in the game. well i will keep reaplying and hope for the best.

For my puppets, I automatically get the e-mail concerning posting on the forum. It's not being blocked by a spam filter. It's something funky going on with the UN.

Edit: Did anyone else do what I described above?

Just create an hotmail account. I had the same problem and I got hotmail and it Finally came:cool:

Just create an hotmail account. I had the same problem and I got hotmail and it Finally came:cool:

I'm trying with Hotmail and Gmail. It's not working.

Edit: I doubt having your nation in "Vacation Mode" would affect it. But, I wouldn't be surprised. Would it?

No, it's just a glitch that is starting to annoy a lot of people. Help? Moderators? Please? :D

Trying with two different nations and four different e-mail addresses (me) seems to confirm that this is a glitch in NS, not in the e-mails themselves.
The fact that dozens of nations are joining the UN every hour tells me that the NS side is working. I can't prove that it's your email provider, but that's historically been the case, and nothing looks special about this one.

In any event, moderators can't do a thing if the emails aren't being sent. That would take an admin's attention.

The fact that dozens of nations are joining the UN every hour tells me that the NS side is working. I can't prove that it's your email provider, but that's historically been the case, and nothing looks special about this one.

In any event, moderators can't do a thing if the emails aren't being sent. That would take an admin's attention.

You know that thing about verifying the e-mail to post on the forum? I get those, instantly. It isn't even a problem with my e-mail address; they just refuse to pick up the UN application e-mail. I don't know what's going on.

Thanks, I'll have to talk to an admin about it. Maybe Salusa can help.

Edit: Bug report sent to admin account. Let's see if they can solve it.

Edit: I am also trying to apply for the UN with this nation, because it is not in Vacation Mode. If it doesn't work, then Vacation Mode has nothing to do with it.

I've had it take upwards of 14 days to get a UN e-mail before. Sometimes it just takes patience.

I have been trying for a UN email at netscape and gmail. I get forum confirmation emails and password emails in both accounts. Based on the extreme junk in my gmail spam folder, I suspect there is no pre-filtering in that account at least - and emails remain in the spam folder for 30 days. I realize that historically the problem has been with the email accounts, but there has been a huge surge of activity in this thread the past few days.

With the new influence rules in place, it is important to regions being attacked to be able to join the UN and endorse UN delegates in a timely fashion. The majority of people trying to join the UN in my region were unable to within 3 days. (We were able to resurrect our founder, so most people stopped trying for a UN email at that point). When a region is trying to defend against a raider attack, 14 days is far too long to wait.

aside from which the telegram says in a few hours or wait upto 24 before trying with a new email address not 14 days so we react accordingly

aside from which the telegram says in a few hours or wait upto 24 before trying with a new email address not 14 days so we react accordingly

Good point.

I also have hotmail and it isn't working.

I'm trying with Hotmail and Gmail. It's not working.
GMail works.

Though my Hotmail also recieves it.
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Sure you didn't hit the Spam button? If you say one is spam, the rest will follow.

I've had it take upwards of 14 days to get a UN e-mail before. Sometimes it just takes patience.

Whoa. I'm going to end up with a lot of e-mails, then. :D

And I didn't hit the spam button. In Gmail, it doesn't even matter.

Edit: I'm going to wait, although I do kind of need it soon. But how would it take 14 days for the e-mail to get sent?

I am having the same problem as well. If you all find out the solution, please post it. Thanks! :)

Tried multiple times, with three seperate nations, Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo accounts. I just cannot seem to get the email. :headbang:

attempting to put different nations into the UN from the same ip address has probably also resulted in you being marked as a cheat for trying to get multiple nations in (their fault for not allowing a nation to be deleted except by not logging in for 28 days)

attempting to put different nations into the UN from the same ip address has probably also resulted in you being marked as a cheat for trying to get multiple nations in (their fault for not allowing a nation to be deleted except by not logging in for 28 days)

You don't get labelled as a cheat for having mutiple invites, you're only considered a cheater if you have more than one UN nation at the same time. I had a UN nation at the time I applied, but I still wouldn't be considered a cheater because I never had two in the UN at the same time.

Edit: I tried to apply using the same Gmail account, and the exact same thing happened; telegram, but no e-mail.

Yeah I'ver had the same problem trying to move UN status to my puppet Burn up Blade 2. I've tried using my yahoo and my fastmail accounts which have both worked for this over the last couple of years but this time I haven't got any UN e-mail. It used to take 2 days most of the time and I've waited about 4 days on both e-mails I would say.

Even if it is coming but takes 14 days to get there then that's still a problem in my eyes. If I was a new player and this happened I doubt I'd carry on playing the game.

As a test, I applied to the UN with 3 different nations under 3 different emails. I received all 3 emails in a hotmail, gmail, and yahoo inbox this morning. Sorry, but I can't find a problem with the email providers themselves, and emails *are* getting sent out.

Could you possibly apply with a different nation and see if you still fail to receive the emails?

As a test, I applied to the UN with 3 different nations under 3 different emails. I received all 3 emails in a hotmail, gmail, and yahoo inbox this morning. Sorry, but I can't find a problem with the email providers themselves, and emails *are* getting sent out.

Could you possibly apply with a different nation and see if you still fail to receive the emails?

I've already tried that, but no luck. Is there anything else that can affect e-mails being sent (programs, etc.)?

Edit: I'm going to try with this nation; my main one. It was the last one that I got into the UN with no problems.

Edit: I'm also trying with three other puppets, each with a different e-mail. That's four nations with four e-mail addresses. What else can I do? :p

Can the mods work us around the verification problem?

how many nations do you suggest we try before we give up and go back to playing minesweeper ?
3 successful mails is hardly an extensive test and merely indicates that some mails are going out whereas the comments in this thread indicate there is a problem that includes gmail, yahoo and hotmail accounts and is probably nothing to do with the email address except in some abstract way perhaps

It could be a problem with the newer nations. The only ones that I have tried so far were ones that I recently created. Now I'm trying this one and a not-so-new puppet (has just over a billion people). We'll see if that does anything.

Can the mods work us around the verification problem?No. We have no method to manually grant UN membership.

No. We have no method to manually grant UN membership.

Not only that, it isn't the game's fault. E-mails are getting sent out to people. Just not to us. :p

I would guess that an admin does have the ability to manually grant UN membership. Hopefully, I can get one of the four nations/e-mails to work this time. Wish me luck.

Oh, and in the event that it doesn't work, what do I do next?

Presumably the admin could bestow UN access as they can pretty much do whatever the hell they want, what with having code access and all. Granted, it could break the game (like renaming nations does), so it might not be a good idea.

As for if it doesn't work, I'm really not sure. I'll probably slap "ATTN ADMIN" on the thread or something. I don't think there's much else that can be done.

It could be a problem with the newer nations. The only ones that I have tried so far were ones that I recently created. Now I'm trying this one and a not-so-new puppet (has just over a billion people). We'll see if that does anything.

It's not just newer nations, the one I've been having problems with is well over a billion I think.

Been away for a while, and man has my thread stimulated some disscussion!
(sorry to say that none of it seems to be helping any of us!)
Just to add to the chaos, my problem is with Comcast!
-TWM

If it helps anyone:

My e-mail to join the UN went to the junk mail folder.

I just got two (don't ask, I only applied once) for Legendary Rock Stars. Seeing as how it was the last one I got into the UN with no problems, that kind of makes sense. I'm going to go check the others as well. If you can, try it with the last nation that you had join the UN with no problems. I am guessing that for me, at least, the UN was... "clogged", and joining with the last nation that I had in it unclogged it somehow.

Thanks to all of the moderators who took the time to try to help. :)

Edit: I didn't get it for the other ones. I did request them later, though; I'll see if I get those as well.

I've got Gmail now.

I've changed my filter settings.

I've scanned my junkfolder and even tried to set up a filter to catch email SPECIFICALLY from the UN.

Nothing comes through.

HELP?!

Annoyed with the un- New Yamamato :sniper:

I've tried with 3 different 4 different email accounts. Comcast, AOL, Hotmail and Gmail. Nothing works. It's nice that it works for a moderator (DUH!), but for the newbies, it's just doing nothing.

I've tried with 3 different 4 different email accounts. Comcast, AOL, Hotmail and Gmail. Nothing works. It's nice that it works for a moderator (DUH!), but for the newbies, it's just doing nothing.

Hm. I have something even more interesting.

I applied for the UN with four different nations, but I only managed to get an e-mail for this one. I tried to apply again for another nation out of curiousity, and never got the e-mail. How weird is that?

can someone help me please?I tried twice to get into the UN and ll I got was the Telegram.I never got the email so I can't become a delegate.what can I do?

can someone help me please?I tried twice to get into the UN and ll I got was the Telegram.I never got the email so I can't become a delegate.what can I do?
Check the spam/junk folders of your email. If the email definitely isn't getting through, it might be the email account - especially if you use AOL. If so, the best thing might be to try with an alternate email address.

I think the 4 pages of this thread has proven it probably isn't the e-mail account. And for me, my junk mail folder is empty anyway, so I know that the e-mail was never sent to me.

Hello peeps. Having problems as well. I tried joining with my ISP account, it failed. I tried changing to Gmail. It also failed. I think something is up on the NS side of things rather than my ISPs side.

I fixed something today in the mailer code. We'll see if it resolves the problem.

I am having this exact same problem! And it is not my email! I have checked my spam folder, turned off the filter! Is there a way I can just get an admin. to email me and I will confirm it directly! :headbang:

I had this for four days, and resent and sent applications three or four times, and my address is correct, and yet it still doesn't work! This makes me wanna do this: :sniper:

If anyone figures out what is going on or what is the problem or what I am doing wrong please help me!

I'm Delegate of the West Pacific and have noticed for a good while now that UN nation creation has dropped rather dramatically while the region has gained nations at a decent rate the past two weeks. I'll post back if it seems to pick back up seeing the Mod's previous post here.

I am also having problems joining the UN with a newly created nation. I set up the account on a yahoo address, got the email confirmation message, applied to join the UN, got the telegram, no message. after a day or two i tried changing the email and applying again. more telegrams, no emails. I've tried yahoo, gmail, and comcast addresses, and all of them let me see what gets trapped for spam. no UN messages.

Hmm think the problem may have been cured as have just received 3 confirmation mails for this country though none for the other one i created.
Mind you the emails are dated 7/05/06 so took 4 days and came in on the previous email address as i have since swapped my 2 email addresses round between the two countries

* Seconds ago: The Constitutional Monarchy of Scarlett Isle was admitted to the UN.
* 4 minutes ago: The Republic of Turttlemaggie was admitted to the UN.
* 5 minutes ago: The Holy Empire of The First Age of Unity was admitted to the UN.
* 6 minutes ago: The Sultanate of Nambasa was admitted to the UN.
* 7 minutes ago: The Rogue Nation of Doomatorium was admitted to the UN.
* 8 minutes ago: The Republic of Misguided Optomists applied to join the UN.
* 9 minutes ago: The United States of Eppstonia was admitted to the UN.
* 9 minutes ago: The Constitutional Monarchy of Thistledene was admitted to the UN.
* 10 minutes ago: The Queendom of Prosper363 applied to join the UN.
* 11 minutes ago: The Jingoistic States of Rofo applied to join the UN.
It seems that people are joining the UN fairly freely now. I guess the codefix worked.

Yes, the code works now, but there's another issue. The mail server refuses to send messages when the server load is too high, which is most of the day. Last night, there were about 21,500 messages in the queue. Now, there are about 18,500. So, most people will probably be waiting about a week for their e-mails after joining.

Works for me now too. Thanks for fixing it!

Yes, the code works now, but there's another issue. The mail server refuses to send messages when the server load is too high, which is most of the day. Last night, there were about 21,500 messages in the queue. Now, there are about 18,500. So, most people will probably be waiting about a week for their e-mails after joining.

I'd rather the message getting sent later than never. Thanks. :)

(I applied during school, so hopefully, I'll get it :p)

Add me to the list of nations unable to join - nothing in the spam box, two different email accounts (aol and comcast - now on a third), and a week has gone by. Also, other account updates are not taking: I changed my issues from one a day to two a day and I still only get one a day. (I know this is a different issue, but I thought I'd mention it). Plus, I'm posting here without having confirmed any but my first email, so something is up with the system database.

:mad:

Please be patient. I am watching the situation very closely. There is no need to give me any more information. I will post here when things settle down.

ok, my problem is a bit different. first off, i've tryed 4 different email addresses (2 with yahoo and 1 with hotmail and 1 with comcast, all spam filters off and white listed nationstates.net) and get this message with no subject, no title, nothing. its completely empty. ive concluded that it must be the un email as its the only email's i get. i have about 10 of these in my inbox, just about the same amount of times ive tryed to get into the un. ive tryed over and over to wait 24 hours and apply again but get the same thing.


p.s. if ur wondering, i do get the telegram but the time recieved is always unknown. dunno if thats sumthing or not. every other telegram i get has a time of how long ago it was sent excep the un tele.

Same old problem . I have aplied three times. I get the aceptance email but no verification

with respect to the blank emails is it possible to look at the header information that should contain the route the email took to find where it came from perhaps ? (don't use yahoo or hotmail and thought comcast made lawnmowers so no idea what info you can get for an email from them)

IT happens to me when I apply too

Ahem:

Please be patient. I am watching the situation very closely. There is no need to give me any more information. I will post here when things settle down.

O.K. I flushed the queue, but I never did get my test e-mail. It probably got dropped after having been refused delivery too many times. However, I applied again yesterday, and that one came through. If you have not yet gotten your e-mail, I suggest that you apply again. Looking through the logs, I see that gmail, yahoo, and hotmail e-mails are definitely getting delivered. aol, rr, comcast, aim, and netscape e-mails definitely are not being delivered. Don't pester us if you're using one of these. There's nothing we can do.

I reapplied with a puppet for testing, and I got 7 e-mails in my inbox (that's a lot). Sounds right; I think I applied that many times with that puppet.

Thank you. :)