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I recently recieved a message that I have two nations in the UN at the same time on one e-mail account. I assure you, this is not true. I have two accounts, but I have purposely kept one nation out of the UN for the reason that I don't want to be deleted. Any help here?

1. Does anyone else use your computer? If they do, then the game likely will have picked up on several UN nations from one computer.
2. Have you accessed NS from a public computer? Much the same as the above, but it would have picked up even more nations.

1. Does anyone else use your computer? If they do, then the game likely will have picked up on several UN nations from one computer.
2. Have you accessed NS from a public computer? Much the same as the above, but it would have picked up even more nations.

Apparently, it's not a computer problem, it's an e-mail problem, meaning that those would probably not be the reasons for rejection from the UN. Here are some possible reasons:

1) Someone else has submitted your e-mail for a UN nation. This is not very likely because, if it is your e-mail, they would need to have signed in and validated the nation via e-mail. So they would have to know your password, which is unlikely.

2) You supplied the wrong e-mail. To check whether the e-mail you supplied is really yours, check it on your 'Settings' page (right under your national link on the NationStates website).

3) There is a database error. Maybe you have an e-mail very similar to another one and the game equated the two to eachother. Maybe that e-mail was somehow 'banned' from being a valid UN nation e-mail. Or maybe it's just a simple error.

Apparently, it's not a computer problem, it's an e-mail problem
No, that's not it at all. If Fiat and Funding had accurately posted the message received, it would have been obvious that email addresses did not play a role. The UN does not permit two nations to join under a single email address in any event.
From: United Nations Intelligence Committee
This nation has been determined to be in breach of UN rules, which allow each player to have just one nation in the UN at any given time. This is an official warning, to allow you to rectify the situation. If you do not comply, the UN will be forced to take action against you.
The problem here is that you are signing on to a shared computer, most likely at a school or library. Several other UN nations play their nations on the same computer, and most or all of them received similar notices.

As explained in Ejected from the UN, here's why (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=274575), our cheatscan can't tell who is seated at any given computer at any given time. Had we been certain that you were playing multiple nations, you would have been ejected or banned. Instead, you were give a strongly phrased warning to give you a chance to correct the situation.

The Damned People, this is the second or third time I have seen you give a 'definitive' answer that was simply wrong. Please refrain from speculating as if you are certain. It's clear you know a lot about the game, but you don't know all the answers. Let mods provide definitive answers in future, please.

The Damned People, this is the second or third time I have seen you give a 'definitive' answer that was simply wrong. Please refrain from speculating as if you are certain. It's clear you know a lot about the game, but you don't know all the answers. Let mods provide definitive answers in future, please.

Ouch, sure. I didn't intend to cause any difficulty.

However, if the UN sens him a message claiming he has two nations under the same e-mail address, how is that a problem of sharing a computer (IP tracking)? It would seem to me that a message from the UN claiming that two nations are signed up under one e-mail would be a problem with that e-mail address and not with the computer # and account #. You're the moderator, so I believe your answer and I'm not challenging it, but I can't see why it's a problem of the computer he's using; I probably missed something. Once again, just trying to help.

By the way, if you have the time, could you point me to those two other errors of mine? I'd like to know what I got wrong so I don't make the same mistaken claim in the future.

However, if the UN sens him a message claiming he has two nations under the same e-mail address, how is that a problem of sharing a computer (IP tracking)?
If you'll read my entire response, you'll see where I quoted the EXACT message he received. Nowhere in that message does it mention email. Furthermore, sharing a computer is not the same as IP tracking. You're assuming that you have accurate information about our methods, and you don't. And no, I won't explain further.

One of the other places where you expressed a definitive answer was in the Moderation forum, in regards to the Nazi roleplay, where you stated This should be acceptable, and it's really great for you to go ahead and ask.
In fact, there has been a great deal of fervor about this subject in the past couple of months, and it is NOT an automatic go-ahead. Yes, it's probably fine, but you're not in a position to make the call.

In short, we've asked in the One Stop Rules Shop (new since you last played) for players to refrain from making definitive statements in Technical and Moderation about what is and isn't allowed. We're asking you to observe that a bit more carefully.

If you'll read my entire response, you'll see where I quoted the EXACT message he received. Nowhere in that message does it mention email. Furthermore, sharing a computer is not the same as IP tracking. You're assuming that you have accurate information about our methods, and you don't. And no, I won't explain further.

Ah, thanks for the explanation. I was under the impression that the message he got referred to e-mail accounts since he said there was a reference in the message to his e-mail. I was unaware that the message you quoted was the one sent to him: I assumed that it was a standard UN message, but that he was correct in quoting a specific one that referenced e-mail.

One of the other places where you expressed a definitive answer was in the Moderation forum, in regards to the Nazi roleplay.
In fact, there has been a great deal of fervor about this subject in the past couple of months, and it is NOT an automatic go-ahead. Yes, it's probably fine, but you're not in a position to make the call.

I understand this, which is why I said "this should be fine". Obviously, I don't differentiate enough between my personal opinion or speculation and my understanding of the rules of the game, so I will attempt to draw a clearer brightline in the future. I remember that there have been problems with Nazi nations since the beginning, so I understand that it is a sensitive topic for moderators to deal with, and has no general policy or brightline. Since I'm a moderator, hopefully nobody takes my claim that something "should" be fine for a 'moderatorial' go-ahead. However, I will be more careful in the future.

In short, we've asked in the One Stop Rules Shop (new since you last played) for players to refrain from making definitive statements in Technical and Moderation about what is and isn't allowed. We're asking you to observe that a bit more carefully.

Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me and for pointing out my previous 'flawed' definitive statement. In the future, I will make sure to be clearer about what I know for sure and what is my opinion, in order to prevent any confusion surrounding the matter. I'm new on the forums (well, maybe 'recent' is a better term), so it may take a while to adjust to any new rules of procedure. I appreciate your patience with my adjustment, and I hope that any help I try to offer is still appreciated in these forums.

I recently recieved a message that I have two nations in the UN at the same time on one e-mail account. I assure you, this is not true. I have two accounts, but I have purposely kept one nation out of the UN for the reason that I don't want to be deleted. Any help here?
Haha...the system has it out for you nick...

BTW...i got the same messege....

Ok, so I found my problem. I am using a school computer that everyone in my class also uses to check on their nations. one of said people is Misunderestimates, and I think I have sorted all of this out. Hopefully. Thank you all for the help, whether it was wrong or not. I learned a lot and I hope I can fix it.